MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

OK but if the coaching position is also a "non-tenure [track] faculty position," then why the need for a graduate degree?

(On the other hand, I fear I understand all too well this stipulation: it has to do with the very artificial notion that no one can teach [coach?] in higher education sans a graduate piece of paper -- forget about expertise, knowledge, and skills. Altogether, a sad, damnable misapprehension.)

Anyone who ever doubted that Warren was one of the good guys in the zany world of academia should read this post. Kudos to you, honored sir!

Good to hear you have some sanity, Warren.  I agree with you, I just haven't had any experiences with academia where that piece of paper didn't matter far more than it should.

[emeritusprof]

During my time at Carthage, guys like Larry Hamilton, Ph.D and head basketball coach, held the doctorate because his primary teaching job was in psychology.  On the other hand, Dr. Ron Zalokar taught majors courses in the discipline of physical education (now called Exercise and Sport Science), but also was assist football under Art Keller, and head wrestling, and head track & field coach. 

As the athletic program grew, it became more and more necessary to hire folks who were primarily coaches and secondarily classroom teachers.  In phys educ it was often the case where those who might have been deemed less academically licensed, taught what were known as "activity courses," of which four such experiences were required of all graduates in the 60s and 70s, but reduced to two such experiences later.  These were the so-called "carry over" activities that were considered to be useful for healthy adult living.

Today there is heavy emphasis on coaches as recruiters.  Consequently, some have held joint appointment in athletic department and admissions.  I don't think such an appointment requires graduate degrees, but don't know what Iowa Wesleyan is seeking.  What were Trost's duties beyond basketball?

If Trost's successor is to be a classroom teacher, it obviously makes a good deal of sense that he has had graduate studies and at least a master's in the field he will be teaching, even if it is a non-tenured position.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Iowa Wesleyan

One of the funnist goofs of the off-season so far.

[Gregory Sager]

Iowa Wesleyan

One of the funnist goofs of the off-season so far.

Definitely. It's even funnier than your referring to either me or Warren as "Ralph" a few minutes ago. 

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Iowa Wesleyan

One of the funnist goofs of the off-season so far.

Definitely. It's even funnier than your referring to either me or Warren as "Ralph" a few minutes ago. 

Where was that?  I don't recall making any such error!

[Gregory Sager]

Iowa Wesleyan

One of the funnist goofs of the off-season so far.

Definitely. It's even funnier than your referring to either me or Warren as "Ralph" a few minutes ago. 

Where was that?  I don't recall making any such error!

You're a sneaky guy, Hoops Fan!

(Not that anyone should be at all bothered to be confused with the esteemed and ubiquitous Ralph Turner.)

[BeastMaster]

The Big Blue have a few very nice recruits coming in for next season. 

1)  Robert Rexroade 6'8" Seneca-Class A State Champs 35-0.  Very skilled big man who can go inside and out.  Very exciting player. Recruited by a few CCIW schools.

2)  Zach Ott 6'7" East Peoria-Big man much like Rexroade who can go inside and out.  Great addition to go along with Rexroade.

3)  Robert Burton 6'5" H-F.  Athletic "3" who pretty much does it all.  Will be a great addition for the future with Mike Gavic graduating next year.

4)  Heath Houser 6'5" Macon-Meridian.  Another athletic "3" who can get up.  Will be interesting to see how he develops at the college level. 

This is a great group of recruits thus far following up last seasons Drew Gensler, Ray Kissing, Mitch Ade, and Mark Patrick.  The future is really looking up for the Blue.  It's going to get exciting and do not count the Blue out for next season with core returners like Korte Long and getting back Mike Gavic and Bryon Graven from injuries. 

[emeritusprof]

My apologies to the good folks at Iowa Wesleyan for having put the name of their institution in place of the intended sister school in Illinois.

Wesleyans are perhaps more numerous than Concordias, and at my age I'm permitted confusion of the sort exhibited.

[Warren Thompson]

... at my age I'm permitted confusion of the sort exhibited.

Welcome to the club, emeritusprof. The "Golden Years" aren't always so golden; in fact, they often seem more like tin or lead. And there are days when the brain seems to be made of steel wool.

[Mr. Ypsi]

... at my age I'm permitted confusion of the sort exhibited.

Welcome to the club, emeritusprof. The "Golden Years" aren't always so golden; in fact, they often seem more like tin or lead. And there are days when the brain seems to be made of steel wool.

While I'm a mere 'spring chicken' (58 in July), I will agree that aging ain't for sissies!  (I had to retire from soccer a few years back - you may have missed the news coverage since it was about the same time that Elway and Gretzky retired! ) 

Still, aging beats the alternative!

[Warren Thompson]

... at my age I'm permitted confusion of the sort exhibited.

Welcome to the club, emeritusprof. The "Golden Years" aren't always so golden; in fact, they often seem more like tin or lead. And there are days when the brain seems to be made of steel wool.

While I'm a mere 'spring chicken' (58 in July), I will agree that aging ain't for sissies!  (I had to retire from soccer a few years back - you may have missed the news coverage since it was about the same time that Elway and Gretzky retired! ) 

Still, aging beats the alternative!

Indeed, getting old and decrepit does beat the alternative, even though every morning as I get out of bed I'm reminded that two of the Deity's worst mistakes are the human right knee and the human left knee.

(BTW I did miss your retirement from soccer -- weren't you the one who did serious damage to your back attempting a Pele scissors-kick whilst running full speed?  )

[dansand]

Sometimes even newspaper accounts of recruiting news should be viewed with skepticism. Here's a report from the Waukegan News Sun:
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/newssun/sports/5_2_WA25_SIGNINGS_S1.asp

Not only am I pretty sure that Gurnee Warren's Jordan Dalton is going to Augustana in South Dakota, but I'm also pretty sure that Augustana in Rock Island doesn't play in the Midwest Conference with Lake Forest.

If they do, I've been posting on the wrong board for the last year. And, as I've said before, I'm better with limericks than haikus.

[joehakes]

The older I get, the better I was.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Warren,

No, my back troubles are totally non-soccer related.  (Though my elder son did pull off an unusual 'header' goal last season - he plays 'sweeper', but went forward and got off such a quick, unexpected shot that it went in off the keeper's head!)   I started contemplating retirement when I realized I was stiff and sore the entire time between one game and the warm-up for the next, but the final straw came when I broke my big toe on my dominant foot (which did NOT stop me - who would quit for such a wimpy reason?!), then had my glasses shattered five minutes later.  (The glasses were my fault: I was about 15 feet to the left of a teammate taking a free-kick - I should have known the only safe place to be with him kicking was in front of the goal!)  The broken toe ended my season (though it didn't even hurt enough to go to the hospital 'til the next day), but it did get me a handicapped parking spot for the rest of the semester - probably worth it!

Retirement did cost me a perfectly good soccer-game t-shirt: "I'm 53; what's your excuse".

[emeritusprof]

Sure, I can remember 58, and 53, but I have a much better recollection of the 1950s (and the 1940s).

By the way Warren, that Cardinals World Series you remember--didn't Harry Caray and Gabby Street broadcast that?

I remember my oldest brother and my dad getting in to that '46 Series in old Sportsman's Park by wearing black pants and white shirt and going in the gate used by the ushers.

Don't ask what I did this morning.