MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

Started by Board Mod, February 28, 2005, 11:18:51 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

AndOne

North Central, playing without starting point guard Dean Prince who was out with the flu, downed Otterbein 73-56 tonight in the opening game of Otterbein's Smokey Ballenger Tourney. The Cardinals led by only 8 at the half, 36-28.

NCC was led by Chris Drennan who hit 13 of his 20 shots to finish with 26. Matt Rogers came off the bench to add 14 on 4/7 from the field, and 6/7 from the line. 2 guard Reid Barringer contributed 13 on 3/8 shooting, including 2/4 on threes and 5/6 FTs. Jonny Knapczyk, starting for Prince, dished out 4 assists vs only 1 TO.

Overall the Cards shot 53.1 percent, including percentages of 66.7 on threes, and 81 on their free throws against percentages of 44.7, overall, 35.5 on threes, and only 50 percent on FTs for Otterbein.
The Cards committed 10 TOs while forcing OC into 18.

NCC will face Baldwin-Wallace (OH), which defeated Thomas More (KY), in tomorrow night's championship game at 8 PM, eastern time. 

Titan Q

CCIW OVERALL:    61-11 (.847)

CCIW team heavy favorite
1 Wheaton vs Mount St. Joseph, 12/29 (neutral)
2 Wheaton vs Wittenberg or Taylor, 12/30 (@ Witt)
3 Augustana vs Coe, 12/30
4 Wheaton @ Grinnell, 1/3
5 Illinois Wesleyan vs Illinois College, 1/3
6 Carthage vs Trinity International, 1/5
7 Millikin @ Knox, 1/19 - postponed from 12/18

CCIW team favorite
1 North Central vs Baldwin-Wallace, 12/28
2 Illinois Wesleyan vs St. Xavier, 12/29 (neutral)
3 Carthage vs St. Norbert or St. Scholastica, 12/30 (neutral)
4 Elmhurst @ Anderson, 1/3
5 Millikin vs York (NY), 1/3 (neutral)

CCIW team underdog
1 Carthage vs UW-Platteville, 12/29 (neutral)
2 IWU @ Northwood U., 12/30 (if IWU beats SXU)
3 North Park @ Valparaiso, 12/30
4 Millikin @ Christopher Newport, 1/4


7-0 in the first group, 0-4 in the last, and 3-2 in the middle would be 71-17 (.807).

Since Elmhurst lost to UW-Stevens Point on 12/13, the CCIW is on a 15-game winning streak.

tjcummingsfan

If people (i.e. NPU players) are listed on the roster online, does that mean they are back eligible?

Titan Q

Radio for North Central vs Baldwin-Wallace (at Otterbein)...

http://ocwobn.otterbein.edu/WOBN.htm

28-23 NCC with about 7:00 to play in the 1st half.

markerickson

TJCF:  I wouldn't presume eligibility until I see the players on the floor.

That reminds me...did NPU issue a press release about the academic difficulties of the two players?  If not, isn't disclosure of their personal problems a violation of their right to privacy (FERPA)?  Or, does FERPA permit this type of info to be disclosed by someone other than the player?

Once a metalhead, always a metalhead.  Matthew 5:13.

Titan Q

Quote from: markerickson on December 28, 2008, 09:19:47 PM
TJCF:  I wouldn't presume eligibility until I see the players on the floor.

That reminds me...did NPU issue a press release about the academic difficulties of the two players?  If not, isn't disclosure of their personal problems a violation of their right to privacy (FERPA)?  Or, does FERPA permit this type of info to be disclosed by someone other than the player?

I doubt very much NPU issued any kind of press release.  Like most information that ends up here on CCIW Chat, the NPU news got here via a fan in the know...

Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 13, 2008, 03:59:24 AM
Two starters, Antonio Stevens and Chris Brown, didn't make grades and are going to have to sit out until at least the end of the semester. North Park now gets to experience the sense of frustration and irritation that Wheaton felt over John Mohan; you expect student-athletes to have their act together by the time they're juniors, and when they don't it's doubly hard to take because by that point their teammates and coaches have come to depend upon them much more than when they were mere freshmen or sophomores. The thing to keep in mind is that in the end, veterans or not, they're still only twenty-year-olds. Anyone who spends time with twenty-year-olds knows that they are prone to mess things up; maturity is not magically conferred upon someone on his eighteenth birthday. If it was, college would be a very different experience!

I hope that Tone and Chris keep their eyes on the bigger picture, which is that getting their grades in order and earning their degrees are the most important matters at hand, not simply getting back into uniform. Their progress is being closely monitored by the coaching staff, and I've been told that they're working hard to be reinstated at semester break.

That's just the beginning. Sophomore forward Nick Hoekstra, who was a steady customer on last year's JV team and had made such outstanding off-season progress that Paul Brenegan and his staff were looking to him to be a key contributor off the varsity bench this season, tore his ACL and is out for the year. Sophomore swingman Kendall Greer, who was projected to be the team's sixth man, broke a bone in his foot and is out until semester break. And sophomore guard Clayton Cahill, who is expected to be one of NPU's two biggest offensive threats alongside Nick Williams, has been nursing a pulled groin and has missed both of the preseason scrimmages. At last report the coaches are hopeful that he'll be able to suit up on Saturday against Wash U in Colorado Springs.

Titan Q

The league's 15-game winning streak came to end tonight in Westerville, Ohio...

Baldwin-Wallace 72
North Central 67
(@ Otterbein College)

Both games this weekend were out of region for NCC...the Otterbein win won't help, but the B-W loss won't hurt.


augiefan

Baldwin Wallace beats NCC with a second half comeback.

sac

Quote from: Titan Q on December 28, 2008, 09:46:59 PM
The league's 15-game winning streak came to end tonight in Westerville, Ohio...

Baldwin-Wallace 72
North Central 67
(@ Otterbein College)

Both games this weekend were out of region for NCC...the Otterbein win won't help, but the B-W loss won't hurt.



Might hurt perception wise

Grace Bible 67 Baldwin-Wallace 62  (same Grace Bible we(MIAA) get slammed for playing in Michigan)

BW's 3 previous wins came vs 1-6 Case Western, 2-6 Hilbert and 5-5 Thomas More.

mr_b

Quote from: markerickson on December 28, 2008, 09:19:47 PM
Isn't disclosure of their personal problems a violation of their right to privacy (FERPA)?  Or, does FERPA permit this type of info to be disclosed by someone other than the player

I don't know the policy on releasing such information for athletes, but if you have been watching any bowl games, you hear the announcers talk about this and that athlete from Wassamattah University who is not playing because he is ineligible due to academics or violation of team rules.  Perhaps the athletes sign a waiver prior to the start of the season.

Viking Blue

We never signed any kind of release back in the day, but that was ten years ago.  And to be honest, I don't see how that is any kind of invasion of privacy.  If the actual transcripts were released, that would be one thing.  But this is general information, much like (on the other end of the spectrum) all-academic teams or deans' list information.

Wydown Blvd.

the student-athletes I know at WashU, Fontbonne, and several D1 schools (Patriot League, Big East, and ACC schools) sign waivers for their academic information to be released through the SID offices and the schools pr department. I am not sure what happens at other d3 institutions.

The General Public

As far as I know, no CCIW school requires their student athletes to sign a waiver, at least as of a few years ago.  I think, as a former athlete, that it is assumed going into the school year, that messing up will result in the public's knowledge.  One way or another.

Titan Q

IWU (6-2) takes on NAIA DI St. Xavier (Chicago), 9-6, today at Northwood U. in West Palm Beach, Florida.  The Cougar's key players are:

G Julian Scott (6-3/190, Jr. - Hillcrest H.S.) - 13.3 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 2.9 apg
G Ed Gilgenback ((6-2/175, Fr. - Fond du Lac, WI) - 6.9 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.4 apg
G Nick Wirth (6-3/190, Sr. - Belvidere H.S.) - 5.5 ppg, 2.0 rpg
F Mike Johnstone (6-5/180, So. - St. Laurence H.S.) - 11.5 ppg, 2.9 rpg
F Rob Broughton (6-5/225, Sr. - Elizabethtown, KY) - 15.3 ppg, 5.9 rpg

F Scott Campbell (6-5/205, Sr. - Detroit, MI) - 10.8 ppg, 5.1 rpg
G Paris Davis (5-11/175, Sr. - St. Joseph H.S.) - 7.6 ppg
G Amir Resic (6-4/185, Sr. - Prijedor, Bosnia) - 6.7 ppg
 
IWU's rotation has been:

G Travis Rosenkranz (6-0/175, So. - Macon Meridian H.S.) - 10.9 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 4.1 apg
G Sean Johnson (6-1/185, So. - Washington H.S.) - 14.3 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 2.8 apg
F John Koschnitzky (6-6/195, Fr - Oak Forest H.S.) - 8.6 ppg, 3.9 rpg
F Doug Sexauer (6-7/225, So. - Lockport H.S.) - 12.8 ppg, 6.4 rpg
C Brett Chamernik (6-5/225, Sr. - Benet Academy) - 6.9 ppg, 2.9 rpg

G Jordan Zimmer (6-5/185, Fr. - Delavan H.S.) - 7.0 ppg
C Edmond O'Callaghan (6-6/200, So. - St. Patrick H.S.) - 6.3 ppg, 5.1 rpg
F Duncan Lawson* (6-7/230, So. - Glenbard West H.S.) - 5.5 ppg, 4.0 rpg
G Sean Dwyer (5-10/175, Jr. - Hersey H.S.) - 5.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 3.5 apg

* I believe Duncan is still out with that ankle injury (severe sprain).


The game is at 4:00pm CST.  Links to the Pantagraph's article and WJBC broadcast are below:

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/12/28/usports/doc4956c2691ab69503469251.txt

http://wjbc.com/WJBCcomWebcasts/tabid/1708/Default.aspx


Titan Q

#16829
The other teams in the tournament IWU is in are Missouri Baptist and the host, Northwood University.  Northwood, ranked #3 in the NAIA D2 poll, is 7-1 with the loss being to UPR - Bayamon.  Based on who they've played, it's hard to figure out how they compare to a top D3 team.  It appears they have an outstanding low post player, 6-8/250 DeSean White (21.0 ppg, 9.9 rpg)...

http://seahawks.gonorthwood.com/spotlight/?spotID=1558

http://seahawks.gonorthwood.com/mbasketball/

White is a transfer from D1 Providence and was an NAIA D2 1st Team All-American last year.  As I have mentioned here before, Northwood is coached by Rollie Massimino.

Missouri Baptist is 5-7, but lost by just one to Robert Morris (Chicago) on 12/5.  So they must be pretty good.


As I felt about the Olivet Nazarene game (which the Titans lost), if IWU is ready to contend in the CCIW, they'll beat St. Xavier today.  If the Titans lose to SXU, I think it will be a sign they aren't ready for prime time yet...which some of their other non-conference results have suggested.