MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Titan Q]

Are there any Class 1A players in a Division I program?

Lucas O'Rear (Nashville), Northern Iowa

http://www.unipanthers.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/orear_lucas00.html


Jordan Prosser (Eureka), Bradley...

http://www.bradleybraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=19333&SPID=1498&DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=204799589&Q_SEASON=2009


Garrett & Griffin Callaghan (Seneca), South Dakota St

http://www.gojacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=64548&SPID=7143&DB_OEM_ID=15000&ATCLID=921889&Q_SEASON=2009


1A or 2A?  Not sure.

[Titan Q]

I also know a lot of kids that sit the bench all 4 years who would dominate the CCIW.

Brandon Holtz...ISU. All American in DIII.  But he got 4 years paid for and played at a higher level of competition.

My point is there is a big difference. And looks are not offers.

Brandon Holtz is the perfect example of a kid who would have been a great D3 player...but barely took his warmups off at Illinois State his senior year.

I don't question any kid/family who decides to take a scholarship, by the way. 

[CCIWFAN3]

Oh I know you don't.  But come on man....ya gotta give me some names of 1A Division I players.

I really don't think there are any!

[CCIWFAN3]

Dont mean to change the subject...but nobody is giving me any names anyway...so....what does everyone think of the All Star game instead of the 3rd place game during the Final Four?

[Titan Q]

Oh I know you don't.  But come on man....ya gotta give me some names of 1A Division I players.

I really don't think there are any!

I'm a 4A guy (Brother Rice).  Despite many years living in central Illinois, I'm no expert in knowing who is 1A and who is 2A.  Maybe my father (Pinckneyville H.S.) can help.

Two years ago I saw a game at "Billtown" - I sure hope that is the smallest IHSA classification.

[CCIWFAN3]

Brother Rice.  Tom Richardson Country!

Well Pickneyville sent someone to SLU in 2008.  But then again...they are 2A.

A good friend of mine is from Nashville.  That's bball country.

[Titan Q]

Brother Rice.  Tom Richardson Country!

BR has produced some greats...

Rico Hill
Bobby Frasor
Tony Pacetti

The list goes on and on.

[CCIWFAN3]

Heading out.  Might go to the scrimmage tonight.

Gotta see my favorite 3 guard!

[John Gleich]

Per the IHSA website:

(numbers as of 10/22/09)

O'Fallon (First Baptist Academy)
 Elgin (Fox Valley Lutheran Academy)
 Jacksonville (Illinois School for the Visually Impaired)
 Plainfield (Christ Lutheran Academy)
 Buckley (Christ Lutheran)
 Ohio
 Evansville (Christ Our Savior Lutheran)
 Lovejoy
 DeLand (D.-Weldon)
 Brussels
 Crystal Lake (Faith Lutheran)
 Avon
 Coulterville
 DePue
 Kansas
 Williamsfield
 Bluffs
 Scales Mound
 Joppa (J.-Maple Grove)
 Chicago (Las Casas)
 Rockford (Our Lady of the Sacred Heart)
 Greenview
 Belleville (Governor French Academy)
 LaMoille
 Odin
 Dongola
 Hartsburg (H.-Emden)
 Patoka
 Meredosia (M.-Chambersburg)
 Cahokia (Ft. Bowman Charter)
 Grayville
 Lovington
 Leland
 Thompsonville
 Pleasant Hill
 Galatia
 Fulton (Unity Christian)
 Lansing (Luther East)
 Edinburg
 Waltonville
 Centralia (Christ Our Rock Lutheran)
 Atwood (A.-Hammond)
 Bloomington (Cornerstone Christian Academy)
 Cisne
 Clay City
 Paw Paw
 Arthur (H.S.)
 Palmyra (Northwestern)
 Earlville
 Palestine
 Waverly
 Astoria
 Hebron (Alden-H.)
 Table Grove (VIT)
 Virginia
 Chicago (Waldorf)
 Franklin
 Hutsonville
 Oakland
 Annawan
 Griggsville (G.-Perry)
 Cissna Park
 Bement
 Martinsville
 Morrisonville
 Noble (West Richland)
 Windsor
 Brownstown
 Sidell (Jamaica)
 Mulberry Grove
 Ramsey
 Hume (Shiloh)
 Concord (Triopia)
 Kincaid (South Fork)
 Warren
 Chrisman
 Streator (Woodland)
 Ullin (Century)
 Cowden (C.-Herrick)
 St. Elmo
 Beecher City
 Strasburg (Stewardson-S.)
 Ashland (A-C Central)
 Carrier Mills (C.M.-Stonefort)
 Valmeyer
 Evanston (Roycemore)
 Springfield (Calvary)
 Washburn (Lowpoint-W.)
 Steeleville
 London Mills (Spoon River Valley)
 Elkville (Elverado)
 Greenfield
 Catlin
 Delavan
 Marion (Crab Orchard)
 Raymond (Lincolnwood)
 Cambridge
 Orangeville
 Wolf Lake (Shawnee)
 Flanagan (F.-Cornell)
 Sandoval
 Milledgeville
 Golconda (Pope County)
 Donovan
 Dieterich
 Pearl City
 Augusta (Southeastern)
 Chicago (Big Picture)
 Hanover (River Ridge)
 Woodhull (AlWood)
 Cairo
 Cuba
 Bridgeview (AQSA)
 Jacksonville (Illinois School for the Deaf)
 Cerro Gordo
 Stockton
 Cullom (Tri-Point)
 Marissa
 Roanoke (R.-Benson)
 Freeport (Aquin)
 Broadlands (Heritage)
 Barry (Western)
 New Athens
 Armstrong
 Payson (Seymour)
 Wayne City
 Bluford (Webber)
 Galva
 Decatur (D. Lutheran)
 Liberty
 Mt. Pulaski
 Bethany (Okaw Valley)
 Colfax (Ridgeview)
 Goreville
 Elgin (E. Academy)
 Mt. Olive
 Woodlawn
 Grant Park
 Lexington
 Louisville (North Clay)
 Elizabethtown (Hardin County)
 Tamms (Egyptian)
 Rockford (Keith Country Day School)
 Kewanee (Wethersfield)
 Mendon (Unity)
 Mooseheart
 Villa Grove
 Mounds (Meridian)
 Crete (Illinois Lutheran)
 Erie
 Elmwood
 Hamilton
 Newark
 Buffalo (Tri-City)
 Milford
 Okawville
 Arcola
 Girard
 Hardin (Calhoun)
 Kirkland (Hiawatha)
 Pawnee
 Ashton (A.-Franklin Center)
 Henry (H.-Senachwine)
 Cobden
 Princeville
 Winchester
 Zeigler (Z.-Royalton)
 Lebanon
 East Dubuque
 Fisher
 Norris City (N.C.-Omaha-Enfield)
 Champaign (Judah Christian)
 Jacksonville (Routt)
 Durand
 Gardner (G.-South Wilmington)
 Sciota (West Prairie)
 Madison
 Oneida (ROWVA)
 Brimfield
 Peoria Heights
 Carrollton
 Lewistown
 Oblong
 LeRoy
 New Berlin
 Niantic (Sangamon Valley)
 Bunker Hill
 Polo
 Bushnell (B.-Prairie City)
 Nokomis
 St. Anne
 Deerfield (Chicagoland Jewish)
 Warsaw
 Lanark (Eastland)
 Chicago (Academy for the Arts)
 Christopher
 Galena (H.S.)
 Farina (South Central)
 Sesser (S.-Valier)
 Chicago (Morgan Park Academy)
 Junction (Gallatin County)
 Hinckley (H.-Big Rock)
 Abingdon
 Heyworth
 Villa Park (Islamic Foundation)
 Dakota
 Neoga
 Serena
 Chicago (St. Gregory)
 Varna (Midland)
 Alexis (United)
 Campbell Hill (Trico)
 Granville (Putnam County)
 Mason City (Illini Central)
 Mt. Sterling (Brown County)
 Virden
 Farmer City (Blue Ridge)
 Arlington Heights (Christian Liberty Academy)
 Shabbona (Indian Creek)
 Chicago (C. Hope Academy)
 Prophetstown
 Altamont
 Tuscola
 Danville (Schlarman)
 Gilman (Iroquois West)
 Glasford (Illini Bluffs)
 Chicago (Academy of Scholastic Achievement)
 Forreston
 Pecatonica
 Argenta (A.-Oreana)
 Biggsville (West Central)
 Winnetka (North Shore Country Day)
 Bridgeview (Universal)
 Chicago (Perspectives Charter/Joslin)
 Chicago (Luther South)
 Lena (L.-Winslow)
 Tremont
 Toledo (Cumberland)
 South Beloit
 Fulton (H.S.)
 Moweaqua (Central A & M)
 Toulon (Stark County)
 Albion (Edwards County)
 Elgin (Westminster Christian)
 Mackinaw (Deer Creek-M.)
 Somonauk
 Gibson City (G.C.-Melvin-Sibley)
 Ottawa (Marquette)
 Dupo
 Downs (Tri-Valley)
 Knoxville
 Camp Point (Central)
 Macon (Meridian)
 Havana
 Athens
 Dwight
 Bridgeport (Red Hill)
 White Hall (North Greene)
 Eldorado
 Amboy
 Orion
 Sullivan
 Warrensburg (W.-Latham)
 Westville                                        (enrollment 346)

[CCIWFAN3]

any dI's from these schools?

[Mr. Ypsi]

any dI's from these schools?

I didn't see any schools Q mentioned on that list (though BlueJay21 already gave you two names you accepted).  From a big school perspective (Peoria Richwoods, 1966 - with about 2500 students, I'd imagine we were one of the 5 biggest at the time), all those little schools look the same!

And don't you go bad-mouthing those Cobden Appleknockers! #2 in the all-division playoffs in 1960!   [They coulda been been Hoosiers before Hoosiers!]  (Anyone know if any of the 6'6" guys played college bball?)

[dansand]

any dI's from these schools?

Here are a few:

Nate Mitchell, SIU--Carrier Mills
Carlton Fay, SIU--Putnam Co. (whom BlueJay21 already mentioned)
Cody Rinker, SIUE--Stewardson-Strasburg
Zavion Neely, UIC--Chicago Hope

Hardly an exhaustive search.

[Titan Q]

Trying to construct my all-IWU Class A squad.  The 8-man rotation is pretty solid...


G Travis Rosenkranz ('11) – Macon-Meridian
G Steve Czirjak* ('93) – Danville-Schlarman
F Mark Edmundson ('90) - Arthur
F Greg Yess* ('82) - Princeville
C Jack Sikma* ('77) – St. Anne

Bench:
C Bill Braksick* ('88) - Flanagan
F Keith Luechtefeld ('87) – Okawville
G Jason Fisher ('06) - Delavan


* = 1st Team All-CCIW

[Titan Q]

I like my 2A squad as well...

G Brian Martin ('93) - Paxton-Buckley-Loda
G Mark Aubry ('95) - Seneca
F Blaise Bugajski* ('84) - Bloomington Central Catholic
F Brent Niebrugge* ('98) - T-Town
C Luke Kasten* ('03) - Hillsboro

G T.J. Posey ('95) - Prairie Central
G Bob Quillman ('57) - Pinckneyville
F Todd Wente ('01) - Effingham St. Anthony


I'm sure I've missed a lot of former Titans during this little exercise...my apologies to all.

[robberki]

re: the d-3 vs. d-1 debate, as someone who went through this process and had friends and teammates go through it, I have a bit of perspective on the issue. There are a lot of kids who can't pass up the opportunity to get school paid for no matter what the circumstances. There are also a lot of people that want the prestige of being on a d-1 team no matter how much, or little, they actually get to play. I had friends that went to some smaller d-1's, places like UNC-Charlotte and Pacific out in California. They rode the pine for 4 years, some of these guys were better players than me coming out of high school. When we would play pickup games back in Omaha after or senior year, our even during the summer between our junior and senior year, I had surpassed them pretty handily and I attrbute it to actually getting to play in 100 real basketball games during that time while they played a few minutes each season. If you're a clear cut star or even get an offer at a big time program like UNC or UCLA, it's obviously in your interest to take it. If you have a marginal offer but care about becoming the best player you could be, it might behoove you to check out a d-3, naia, or d-2 program where your chance to play is more likely. Just my two cents, each person is obviously going to be different and have different needs/wants.