MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[BlueJay21]

the one problem right now is Garriott is nursing very unhealthy knees and may never be 100 percent again. McCrary has the potential but I am afraid that he will never live up to it.  Carwell has potential but he cant stay focused, he daydreams too much. Jahns is the same. Most of these young men are more concerned about their "fat little girlfriends" than leaving it all on the court for Wheaton Basketball. IMHO

Am I missing something or weren't these the same guys that helped to win a conference title last year? I think Wheaton will be just fine when the season starts. Garriott is a nice addition to an already good team. McCrary, like Bob said could have a huge breakout season. Carwell is a beast down low even if he is daydreaming. I'm just interested to see what kind of ugly shoes he finds to wear this season...

[CCIWFAN3]

I assumed with a name of: "Wheaton.Thunder" that you were a Wheaton fan.  If you are, then must not be a loyal one.  That's a little low discussing the player's girlfriends.   You must have an inside track knowing all of this info...personal habits, injuries, mental lapses, etc. of the players.   

To TitanQ...I agree John and Tim are very similar. 

[Titan Q]

Sure to be controversial, I've ranked the projected starters by positon...


PG (1)
1 Steve Djurickovic, 6-3 (Jr) - Carthage
2 Matt Pelton, 6-2 (Sr) - Augustana
3 Roshawn Russell, 5-10 (So) – North Park
4 Aaron Garriott, 6-3 (So) - Wheaton
5 Travis Rosenkranz, 6-0 (Jr) - IWU
6 Dustin Bainter, 6-2 (Sr) - Elmhurst
7 Corey Mitchell, 6-0 (Sr) - Millikin
8 Jon Knapczyk, 6-1 (Sr) - NCC

SG (2)
1 Sean Fendley, 6-1 (Sr) - Carthage
2 Sean Johnson, 6-1 (Jr) - IWU
3 Reid Barringer, 6-0 (Sr) - NCC
4 Shaun Collins, 6-2 (Jr) – North Park
5 Brian DeSimone, 6-1 (So) - Augustana
6 Andrew Jahns, 6-2 (Jr) - Wheaton
7 Chris Childs, 6-2 (Sr) - Elmhurst
8 Charles Warren, 6-2 (Sr) - Millikin

G/F (3)
1 Ben Panner, 6-3 (Sr) - Wheaton
2 John Koschnitzky, 6-6 (So) - IWU
3 David Twyman, 6-3 (Sr) - NCC
4 Adam Tolo, 6-6 (Sr) - Carthage
5 Kendall Greer, 6-4 (Jr) – North Park
6 Zack Boyd, 6-2 (So) - Elmhurst
7 Mike Avallone, 6-4 (Jr) – Augustana
8 Devin Demby, 6-2 (sr) - Millikin

F (4)
1 Nick Williams, 6-5 (Sr) – North Park
2 Doug Sexauer, 6-7 (Jr) - IWU
3 Tim McCrary, 6-6 (So) - Wheaton
4 Bryant Voiles, 6-9 (Jr) - Augustana
5 Robert Burton, 6-4 (Sr) = Millikin
6 Raul Guzman, 6-6 (Fr) - Carthage
7 Derek Raridon, 6-6 (Fr) - NCC
8 Joe Acosta, 6-2 (Jr) - Elmhurst

F/C (5)
1 Kyle Nelson, 6-9 (Jr) - Augustana
2 Jake Carwell, 6-7 (Sr) - Wheaton
3 Joscar Demby, 6-7 (Sr) - Millikin
4 Phil Schneidermeier, 6-7 (Jr) – North Park
5 Joe Meyerhoff, 6-8 (Fr) - NCC
6 Edmond O'Callaghan, 6-7 (Jr) - IWU
7 Tyler Pierce, 6-5 (Fr) - Carthage
8 Wes Dukeman, 6-9 (So) - Elmhurst


And by simply adding the totals up (lower number the better) – a very scientific process, of course - my starting lineup rankings...

IWU: 5+2+2+2+6 = 17
NPU: 3+4+5+1+4=17
Wheaton: 4+6+1+3+2=18
Augie: 2+5+7+4+1=19
Carthage: 1+1+4+6+8 = 20
NCC: 8+3+3+7+5=26
Millikin: 7+8+8+5+3=31
Elmhurst: 6+7+6+8+8=35


Actually, I found these position rankings to be pretty tough to do - in other words, there were a lot of tough calls.  There was only one clear-cut, this guy is so much better than everyone else situation - Steve Djurickovic .  And that is why I continue to feel like Carthage is the favorite...he is off-the-charts good, and I think his supporting cast is good enough.

Obviously a just-for-fun exercise, but enjoy for what it's worth.

[devildog29]

I assumed with a name of: "Wheaton.Thunder" that you were a Wheaton fan.  If you are, then must not be a loyal one.  That's a little low discussing the player's girlfriends.   You must have an inside track knowing all of this info...personal habits, injuries, mental lapses, etc. of the players.   

To TitanQ...I agree John and Tim are very similar. 

Fellas, I thought you were all better sports fans than this?  I know you guys watch SportsCenter every now and then?  The "fat little girlfriends" comment (he even put it in quotes guys) is obviously a reference to Mike Leach's postgame comments after Texas Tech lost to A&M last Saturday. 

[pgkevin]

I assumed with a name of: "Wheaton.Thunder" that you were a Wheaton fan.  If you are, then must not be a loyal one.  That's a little low discussing the player's girlfriends.   You must have an inside track knowing all of this info...personal habits, injuries, mental lapses, etc. of the players.   

To TitanQ...I agree John and Tim are very similar. 

Fellas, I thought you were all better sports fans than this?  I know you guys watch SportsCenter every now and then?  The "fat little girlfriends" comment (he even put it in quotes guys) is obviously a reference to Mike Leach's postgame comments after Texas Tech lost to A&M last Saturday. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcfsQb8LB4w

[Mr. Ypsi]

Thanks, pgkevin (I think) - I hadn't weighed in on the 'controversy' (and rarely watch "Sports Center").  Coach Leach appears to be a real stand-up human being (not ).

[And I'd be willing to bet that HE doesn't have a 'fat little girlfriend'!   At least not one that is recognizably human!]

[CCIWFAN3]

PG (1)
1 Steve Djurickovic, 6-3 (Jr) - Carthage
2 Aaron Garriott, 6-3 (So) - Wheaton
3 Travis Rosenkranz, 6-0 (Jr) - IWU
4 Roshawn Russell, 5-10 (So) – North Park
5 Matt Pelton, 6-2 (Sr) - Augustana
6 Dustin Bainter, 6-2 (Sr) - Elmhurst
7 Corey Mitchell, 6-0 (Sr) - Millikin
8 Jon Knapczyk, 6-1 (Sr) - NCC

SG (2)
1 Sean Johnson, 6-1 (Jr) - IWU
2 Sean Fendley, 6-1 (Sr) - Carthage
3 Shaun Collins, 6-2 (Jr) – North Park
4 Reid Barringer, 6-0 (Sr) - NCC
5 Brian DeSimone, 6-1 (So) - Augustana
6 Andrew Jahns, 6-2 (Jr) - Wheaton
7 Chris Childs, 6-2 (Sr) - Elmhurst
8 Charles Warren, 6-2 (Sr) - Millikin

G/F (3)
1 Ben Panner, 6-3 (Sr) - Wheaton
2 John Koschnitzky, 6-6 (So) - IWU
3 David Twyman, 6-3 (Sr) - NCC
4 Adam Tolo, 6-6 (Sr) - Carthage
5 Kendall Greer, 6-4 (Jr) – North Park
6 Mike Avallone, 6-4 (Jr) – Augustana
7 Zack Boyd, 6-2 (So) - Elmhurst
8 Devin Demby, 6-2 (sr) - Millikin

F (4)
1 Tim McCrary, 6-6 (So) - Wheaton
2 Nick Williams, 6-5 (Sr) – North Park
3 Bryant Voiles, 6-9 (Jr) - Augustana
4 Robert Burton, 6-4 (Sr) = Millikin
5 Doug Sexauer, 6-7 (Jr) - IWU
6 Raul Guzman, 6-6 (Fr) - Carthage
7 Derek Raridon, 6-6 (Fr) - NCC
8 Joe Acosta, 6-2 (Jr) - Elmhurst

F/C (5)
1 Kyle Nelson, 6-9 (Jr) - Augustana
2 Joscar Demby, 6-7 (Sr) - Millikin
3 Phil Schneidermeier, 6-7 (Jr) – North Park
4 Edmond O'Callaghan, 6-7 (Jr) - IWU
5 Jake Carwell, 6-7 (Sr) - Wheaton
6 Joe Meyerhoff, 6-8 (Fr) - NCC
7 Tyler Pierce, 6-5 (Fr) - Carthage
8 Wes Dukeman, 6-9 (So) - Elmhurst

[CCIWFAN3]

Actually Jordan Zimmer belongs in the top 2 or 3, but if he doesn't start I can't include him:)

[markerickson]

fat AND little?

[Dennis_Prikkel]

fat AND little?

sounds like a 'fire plug' to me - 

[oldnuthin]

fat AND little?

sounds like a 'fire plug' to me - 

So you have met them? 

[Gregory Sager]

Actually Jordan Zimmer belongs in the top 2 or 3, but if he doesn't start I can't include him:)

Zimmer has to prove that he's more than a one-dimensional player before he belongs in anybody's top two or three at either SG or swingman.

There's no way in the world I'm going to climb out onto that dangerously creaking limb with you and Bob by ranking CCIW starters, FAN3, but does the fact that you're ranking NPU third and Bob is ranking NPU tied for first in terms of starter quality mean that the two of you are officially thumbing your noses at the league's head coaches for picking the Vikings to finish eighth? Inquiring minds want to know.

[wheaton.thunder]

"However, if I am candid, this team has not shown the day in and day out commitment to practice at the intensity level necessary to compete in this league. This league shows no mercy. You bring it every night or you lose."

Wheaton Head Coach Mike Schauer public comments on the efforts to date of his OWN team

wanna be's
daydreamers

[CCIWFAN3]

I'd never do that Greg.  The 1, 2, and 3 positions were a lot easier to rank.  I still have troubs with the 4's and 5's.  And, I won't rank a freshman post in the top half until they prove themselves.  CCIW is too physical to make that assumption.  The CCIW will be guard dominant this year.  Games and championships won't be decided by the posts this year.  Wow...that should bring some feedback!

Come on... let's see your ranking Greg.  I'd rather read that than the bios of players girlfriends!

[CCIWFAN3]

Hey Wheaton.Thunder....why so much negativity towards a team u use as your email address.  Did they cut u from the squad years back or what?!?  Or do u just miss Raymond that much?!?