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usee

Wheaton beats Trine tonight in their opener 54-39. Jahns leads w 14 pts. McCrary with 10pts and 17 boards. Schauer called it a "Picasso" on the post game. He said Wheaton isn't a very good offensive team right now but they will get after you for 40 minutes on the defensive end. Aaron Garriot played a few minutes in the second half and scored 2 pts.

Titan Q

Quite a day on tap at IWU tomorrow...


noon (football) - #14 IWU vs #15 Wabash (NCAA playoff game)

2:00pm (women's bball) - #12 DePauw vs Central

4:00pm (women's bball) - #6 IWU vs #1 Wash U

6:00pm (men's bball) - #1 Wash U vs Ohio Wesleyan

8:00pm (men's bball) - IWU vs Johnson & Wales

AndOne

Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 20, 2009, 02:27:56 PM

Quote from: mwunder on November 20, 2009, 01:33:33 PM
Question for the board....I noticed on Carthage's schedule that they have a few 4:30pm Saturday starts.  Is this a new CCIW scheduling mandate or a 1 year quirk?  

I don't remember 4:30 Saturday starts last season.

The CCIW is mandating Saturday women's/men's doubleheaders as a cost-cutting move; the men's and women's teams will be sharing buses on those Saturday road trips. Where long travel distances are involved (Augustana, Carthage, and Millikin in particular), Saturday women's games are more likely to be 2 pm starts and Saturday men's games are more likely to be 4:30 pm starts to make the travel hours more reasonable.

This process was actually initiated by the CCIW member Presidents in a meeting to explode various ways to reduce athletic department costs throughout the entire league. I believe this took place last spring. The Presidents charged the league ADs with finding a number of cost containment measures within their departments. One of the areas where costs were felt to be excessive that was easily identifiable was travel. Relative to that facet of the member athletic dept expenditures the ADs, in conjunction with the league office, developed a plan of staging women's/men's basketball doubleheaders. I believe this has been done in several other DIII conferences for some time.  
In formulating the plan, it was decided that it be applicable only to Saturday games.
Furthermore, the home team was given the option of holding the women's/men's games at either 2:00 and 4:30, or 5:00 and 7:30 respectively. Thats why you might see men's teams playing some Saturday home games at 4:30 and others at 7:30. Limited exceptions can be made with the agreement of both teams.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: AndOne on November 21, 2009, 01:55:05 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 20, 2009, 02:27:56 PM

Quote from: mwunder on November 20, 2009, 01:33:33 PM
Question for the board....I noticed on Carthage's schedule that they have a few 4:30pm Saturday starts.  Is this a new CCIW scheduling mandate or a 1 year quirk?  

I don't remember 4:30 Saturday starts last season.

The CCIW is mandating Saturday women's/men's doubleheaders as a cost-cutting move; the men's and women's teams will be sharing buses on those Saturday road trips. Where long travel distances are involved (Augustana, Carthage, and Millikin in particular), Saturday women's games are more likely to be 2 pm starts and Saturday men's games are more likely to be 4:30 pm starts to make the travel hours more reasonable.

This process was actually initiated by the CCIW member Presidents in a meeting to explode various ways to reduce athletic department costs throughout the entire league. I believe this took place last spring. The Presidents charged the league ADs with finding a number of cost containment measures within their departments. One of the areas where costs were felt to be excessive that was easily identifiable was travel. Relative to that facet of the member athletic dept expenditures the ADs, in conjunction with the league office, developed a plan of staging women's/men's basketball doubleheaders. I believe this has been done in several other DIII conferences for some time.  
In formulating the plan, it was decided that it be applicable only to Saturday games.
Furthermore, the home team was given the option of holding the women's/men's games at either 2:00 and 4:30, or 5:00 and 7:30 respectively. Thats why you might see men's teams playing some Saturday home games at 4:30 and others at 7:30. Limited exceptions can be made with the agreement of both teams.

Some typos are just irresistible! ;)

I'm envisioning conference rivalries getting so out of hand that IEDs are placed under visiting team buses - THAT should cut travel costs! :o ;D

Gregory Sager

#20434
North Park 84, Dominican 69

Issa Avery: 21 pts, 8 rebs
Davone Robinson: 14 pts, 9 rebs, 5 asts
Shaun Collins: 9 pts
Phil Schniedermeier: 8 pts
Roshawn Russell: 8 pts, 5 asts (1 to)
Nick Williams: 8 pts

This was a nice tonic for a Vikings team badly in need of a reason to feel good about themselves. They gave up the first bucket of the game but took a 3-2 lead on an Issa Avery trey and never looked back. They held a comfortable double-digit lead for most of the game, but Dominican made a couple of runs to bring the lead down to six at the 14 minute mark of the second half and the 12 minute mark. Both times NPU answered the run with good team offense rather than one player feeling it necessary to take it upon himself to score all by his lonesome. The Vikings eventually pulled out to an 18-point lead and coasted to victory.

Issa Avery had another phenomenal night. As raw as he is at certain aspects of the game, he's got both talent and energy to burn. Every time I see him I come away more impressed with his potential. Davone Robinson was the star of the game -- he was everywhere on the floor, grabbing boards left and right, setting up his teammates, driving to the hole, and playing shutdown defense. What a pick-up he's been thus far this season.

Neither Nick Williams nor Shaun Collins started, as Paul Brenegan was obviously attempting to send a signal to both of them. Both responded; Collins played well on defense for the most part and made some big treys down the stretch, while Williams, after going through yet another sonambulistic half, finally got involved in the second half and began to get into the flow of the game. Nick Hoekstra, who replaced Williams in the starting lineup, did well in limited minutes, while Ryan Beigie was a big spark off the bench. Ro Russell did a terrific job of pacing the offense and distributing the ball. Phil Schniedermeier had a really tough night, missing a plethora of layups, but he suffered a death in the family today and I think he can be forgiven for not being himself on the floor.

Truth be told, Dominican's not that good. The Stars don't really have an inside game, and while they have a couple of good penetrators and some good shooters, they don't have anyone who really scares you. I'm stumped as to how the Stars managed to beat Carroll in that scrimmage last week.

The Vikings still have a lot of things to work on, and they have to turn right around and head back to River Forest again tomorrow evening for another game in the other team's gym (this time it's at Concordia IL), but at least they've gotten the bad taste out of their mouths from earlier this week.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Titan Q on November 20, 2009, 11:07:28 PM
A quote from Bosko Djurickovic from the preseason online chat:

"the key word in our building is rebound, we have been killed on the boards the last couple of years ,these freshman are not tall but they are strong and wide and will be a major upgrade on the boards"

The Red Men were out-rebounded by 16 tonight in their loss to UW-Whitewater.  

True, but they obviously compensated for that huge rebounding disparity, as they only lost by one. In fact, Steve Djurickovic missed a potential game-winner at the buzzer.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Titan Q

#20436
Something significant for Wheaton tonight in a subtle way...

The Wheaton/McMurry game will be "in-region" for the Thunder (for Illinois teams, the Texas D3's get pulled into the in-region definition via the "Administrative Region" rule).  A matchup with Ohio Northern would not have been in-region for the Thunder.  So, this is either good or bad for Wheaton, depending on whether they win or lose.  As most here realize, in-region games are the only ones that "count" in terms of official NCAA tournament consideration.  

Assuming Wash U beats Ohio Wesleyan tonight in Bloomington, IWU will play its only out-of-region game this evening, vs D3 Johnson & Wales (Rhode Island).  IWU's holiday trip games vs Texas D3's Trinity and Southwestern and both in-region, just as Wheaton vs McMurry is.  (A while back I noted that for the first time in IWU history, the Titans will play every game this season vs NCAA D3 schools.)

This time of year, it's hard to put into perspective how important every in-region game really is (in terms of post-season possibilities), because it seems so early right now.  But games like that Carthage loss to UW-Whitewater, or Wheaton vs McMurry, or IWU vs Wash U are huge.  

Titan Q

Leaving in about 30 minutes to start the 4-hour drive to Bloomington.  Go Titans!

nescac1

Interesting first game for the Ephs ... they aren't going to win games against better teams with ALL of their top perimeter scorers (Rubin, Schultz, Dodson, Klemm) being either off or way, way off (3-23 combined from 3) (it is only the first game, so may just take time to get into the flow a bit), but I don't expect that to happen all that often.  On the other hand, nice to see Wang and Whittington both totally dominate.   Wang put up just a ridiculous stat line: 22-10-7, 8-9, 3-3, 3-3, you can't play the point guard position better than that.  Obviously, SVM is not a strong opponent, but still augers well.  Geoghegan-Whittington give the Ephs great depth at the five. 

Nate Robertson also had a big game last night.  In fact, three of the most hyped incoming frosh all seemed to live up to that hype right away, with Sha Brown for Wesleyan and Kaasila for Amherst also putting up monster numbers.  Of course, none played against a strong defensive squad ...

Wesleyan is going to be fun to watch this year with all the small, fast, precocious frosh, but they are gonna also give up a LOT of points, with a tiny line-up and so much inexperience.  I am guessing that 100-90 score won't be the last time. 

Surprised to see Bates, Conn, Trinity, and Tufts all struggle a bit, especially Bates and Conn losing to not-the-toughest opponents.  Thought all four would be improved.  But then again, it IS only the first game ...

AndOne

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 21, 2009, 02:07:37 AM
Quote from: AndOne on November 21, 2009, 01:55:05 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 20, 2009, 02:27:56 PM

Quote from: mwunder on November 20, 2009, 01:33:33 PM
Question for the board....I noticed on Carthage's schedule that they have a few 4:30pm Saturday starts.  Is this a new CCIW scheduling mandate or a 1 year quirk?  

I don't remember 4:30 Saturday starts last season.

The CCIW is mandating Saturday women's/men's doubleheaders as a cost-cutting move; the men's and women's teams will be sharing buses on those Saturday road trips. Where long travel distances are involved (Augustana, Carthage, and Millikin in particular), Saturday women's games are more likely to be 2 pm starts and Saturday men's games are more likely to be 4:30 pm starts to make the travel hours more reasonable.

This process was actually initiated by the CCIW member Presidents in a meeting to explode various ways to reduce athletic department costs throughout the entire league. I believe this took place last spring. The Presidents charged the league ADs with finding a number of cost containment measures within their departments. One of the areas where costs were felt to be excessive that was easily identifiable was travel. Relative to that facet of the member athletic dept expenditures the ADs, in conjunction with the league office, developed a plan of staging women's/men's basketball doubleheaders. I believe this has been done in several other DIII conferences for some time.  
In formulating the plan, it was decided that it be applicable only to Saturday games.
Furthermore, the home team was given the option of holding the women's/men's games at either 2:00 and 4:30, or 5:00 and 7:30 respectively. Thats why you might see men's teams playing some Saturday home games at 4:30 and others at 7:30. Limited exceptions can be made with the agreement of both teams.

Some typos are just irresistible! ;)

I'm envisioning conference rivalries getting so out of hand that IEDs are placed under visiting team buses - THAT should cut travel costs! :o ;D

My bad. In defense, I plead the fact that the r and the d keys are in very close proximity, coupled with the lateness of the hour. And, explode may actually be closer to the true intent of the budgetary directive.

AndOne

The North Central Cardinals kicked of the 09-10 season in rousing fashion last evening thrashing the Oberlin Yeomen by a score of 70-38.
Leading the assault were seniors Reid Barringer with 14 points and David Twyman with 11. In fact, the twosome opened the onslaught with Barringer connecting on 2 consecutive threes followed by 2 tallies by Twyman, finishing nicely on 2 slashing inside moves. Transfer Kyle Julius, somewhat off kilter in his usually steady marksmanship, contributed 9 points off the bench. Derek Raridon and Brandon Stanciel, starters in their first collegiate action, contributed 8 and 6 points respectively.
The Cards also got a solid all-around game from Mike Saris. He was a perfect 3 for 3 from the field, and also hit his only free throw to finish with 7 points. Saris also turned in a strong effort defensively, coming away with 2 impressive steals, one on which he sailed the length of the court for the lay up. Brian Evans muscled his way to 6 boards, 2 offensive, while contributing 3 assists.
North Central, shooting 50% in the first half, led by 21 at the break. Their 34.4% shooting in the 2nd stanza, during with Todd Raridon cleared the bench, dropped their overall shooting to 41.4 as compared with Oberlin's ugly 26.7%. All 15 NC players saw action with 11 scoring.       

AndOne

North Central will face off with Mississippi College at 7:30 tonight for the championship of the Tip-Off Tourney. Mississippi defeated Lakeland in the opening round. The Choctaws look to be a very strong team featuring a deep and talented cast of players, 9 of which are 6'5" or taller, who can run fast, jump high, and shoot straight.

In fact, its not difficult to envision the Choctaws being a top 20 team. Their exclusion, not only from the D3Hoops preseason top 25, but especially from the "others receiving votes" category, makes me think that either they are virtually unknown to a majority of the poll voters or they play an incredibly soft schedule.

Being pretty familiar with all the CCIW teams, I can't think of one that the Choctaws couldn't compete evenly with. Over time, I'd bet they could at least break even with any CCIW team over any number of games. While its admittedly a small sampling, they look to be able to substitute an entire new 5 man unit, without an ounce of noticeable drop off in production. They demonstrated this last evening on a couple of occasions.   

voxelmhurst

Very excited to once again see my Elmhurst College Bluejays tonight against St. Norbert.  While this season does not contain the same NCAA Tournament expectations that the last several seasons have, it will be nice to see how Bainter, Childs, and Acosta handle being the veterans and how sophomores Boyd and McCurdy can improve from their freshman seasons.  Speaking of freshmen, Im excited to see who will emerge from a large pool.  Coach Scherer has proved himself a lot with Elmhurst and Im hoping after this year we've seen him prove himself yet again...this time without any outright All Americans.


Nice article on former EC player Robert Stzremp.

http://www.triblocal.com/Elmhurst/List_View/view.html?type=stories&action=detail&sub_id=116442

magicman

#20443
Quote from: nescac1 on November 21, 2009, 08:31:39 AM
Interesting first game for the Ephs ... they aren't going to win games against better teams with ALL of their top perimeter scorers (Rubin, Schultz, Dodson, Klemm) being either off or way, way off (3-23 combined from 3) (it is only the first game, so may just take time to get into the flow a bit), but I don't expect that to happen all that often.  On the other hand, nice to see Wang and Whittington both totally dominate.   Wang put up just a ridiculous stat line: 22-10-7, 8-9, 3-3, 3-3, you can't play the point guard position better than that.  Obviously, SVM is not a strong opponent, but still augers well.  Geoghegan-Whittington give the Ephs great depth at the five.  

Nate Robertson also had a big game last night.  In fact, three of the most hyped incoming frosh all seemed to live up to that hype right away, with Sha Brown for Wesleyan and Kaasila for Amherst also putting up monster numbers.  Of course, none played against a strong defensive squad ...

Wesleyan is going to be fun to watch this year with all the small, fast, precocious frosh, but they are gonna also give up a LOT of points, with a tiny line-up and so much inexperience.  I am guessing that 100-90 score won't be the last time.  

Surprised to see Bates, Conn, Trinity, and Tufts all struggle a bit, especially Bates and Conn losing to not-the-toughest opponents.  Thought all four would be improved.  But then again, it IS only the first game ...

Did nescac1 get waylaid on his way to post this reply?

usee

Wheaton wins their own tournament with a 88-72 win over McMurry. McCrary leads all scorers with 29 pts and 6 rebounds. Jahns with 19 pts, Panner with 17 and Carwell with 10 and 9 rebounds. Nice win for the Thunder.