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CCIWFAN3

You guys actually think a penetrater's decision is already made before he gets to the rim.  when I say rim, I use it loosely... the paint, close to the basket, etc.
The decision should be dictated by what the defense gives them and how the defense reacts.  If you've already made your decision as you are making your way past the defender in the paint then the defense has already gained the advantage.

I don't care how strong, or smart, or a great shooter he was....Raymond was not athletic.   

augie77

http://www.augustana.edu/x17589.xml

Link to a site that follows the Augustana team on their trip to Gonzaga Wednesday night.  Let's hope the weather cooperates to allow travel.

CCIWFAN3

Greg;

Raymond beat many players off the dribble...not becasue of his athleticsim but because teams had to play him tight to defend the shot.  Raymond recognized this and used the proper counter move.  Like I said before...if you gave Raymond an inch he would take advantage of it.  He was smart and used the proper techniques.  The tighter a defender plays on the balll, the more openings for the dribble drive.  He probably attacked the defenders high foot, with maybe a crossover, and a head fake, or eye fake (yea I said eye fake), none of which have anything to do with athleticism.   I can show you sometime G.S:)

 

devildog29

Since I'm back living in San Antonio, does anyone know if the Trinity Christmas tournament is held at the school or another location?  I'm assuming it is at the school, as I haven't found  much of any info on it at all.  Is it even a tourney or just a couple winter break games?  Hope to get to see the Titans for at least one if not two of the games.
Hail, Hail, the gang's all here, all out for Wesleyan!

petemcb

Rob and Greg:  nice job.  That might be more fun than going to the game.  You guys kept the broadcast moving and kept it interesting enough that I lost track of time and have now missed the first 12 minutes of the (by me) much anticipated debut of Ray Romano's new show.  See ya.

WUPHF

Quote from: augie77 on December 07, 2009, 09:28:57 PM
http://www.augustana.edu/x17589.xml.  Link to a site that follows the Augustana team on their trip to Gonzaga Wednesday night.  Let's hope the weather cooperates to allow travel.

Looks like an easy week ahead for Augustana (typed with tounge in cheek).  Make that two weeks.  Good thing Augustana is on quarters.  Bravo to the coach and staff for taking the game so seriously with the excessive noise and everything else.

I wish I could watch this game, but I will get my chance to see the Vikings on Saturday.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: petemcb on December 07, 2009, 10:14:09 PM
Rob and Greg:  nice job.  That might be more fun than going to the game.  You guys kept the broadcast moving and kept it interesting enough that I lost track of time and have now missed the first 12 minutes of the (by me) much anticipated debut of Ray Romano's new show.  See ya.

Thanks, Pete!
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Gregory Sager

North Park 72, East-West 55

* Nick Williams: 27 pts, 12 rebs
* Emmanuel Crosby: 17 pts, 9 rebs
* Shaun Collins: 12 pts (4-6 trey)
* Davone Robinson: 6 rebs, 6 asts

After a slow start against an athletic but chaotic East-West team that had NPU back on its heels and down by six early, Shaun Collins canned three treys within the space of 75 seconds that electrified the smallish finals-week crowd and got the Vikings going, and they never trailed after that. It took some time to put EWU away -- the Phantoms actually pulled to within three with twelve minutes left in the game -- but a ten-point run by the Vikings salted the game away, as the lead finally reached the 20-point mark in the game's waning seconds.

I honestly don't know what to make of East-West. The Phantoms didn't look like world-beaters, but they do own a win over Davenport, which is ranked in the NAIA-2 Top 25 and only has one other loss on the season (to D1 Eastern Michigan). It's more or less a streetball team, but I think that it was good for NPU to face a team like that. It forced the Vikings to approach the game with the sort of discipline and composure that is necessary to keep from getting suckered into an open-gym-style affair. And the Vikings did play some of the best halfcourt basketball I've seen them play in a long time in an effort to dictate tempo and take advantage of EWU's lack of team defense. They patiently worked the ball into the post, where Williams or Crosby either escaped double-teams by kicking it out or by turning away from the second defender to get baseline layups. The kickouts almost always resulted in good shots, especially since NPU (uncharacteristically) did a nice job of swinging it around to find the open man every time.

Williams was tremendous tonight. If he's working hard enough on the glass to collect a dozen boards, NPU becomes tough to beat. Crosby played a very fine game in Phil Schniedermeier's absence; the big junior from Loyola Academy has a sore calf that he hurt early in the Trinity International game, and he sat out this contest as a precautionary measure. Davone Robinson and Ryan Beigie had nice floor games. Ro Russell continues to struggle with his transition from a scoring PG, which he's been all his life, to a distributing PG. Once he breaks through and figures it all out, he'll be the better player for it.

Not a marquee win for the Park by any means, but it was a solid effort that showed that NPU is making some progress.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Gregory Sager

I mentioned this at the start of the broadcast tonight, but the JV game between North Park and East-West was pretty memorable. The Vikings only suited up seven players for the contest, and one of them, Alexander Vicksen (the freshman guard from Sweden) hurt his leg in the first half and did not return to the game. Two other Vikings fouled out in the second half, the second one with 1:56 left on the clock and the Vikings up, 72-69. NPU thus had to play the last two minutes of regulation 4-on-5. Somehow North Park managed to send the game into overtime at 77 apiece. Even stranger, the Vikings managed to pull out the win in the extra period, finishing on top by a score of 85-82. Jorge Gonzalez, who missed a lot of time early this season to a leg injury and is now working his way back into shape, followed up his 24-point performance in Thursday's JV game with a 36-point performance tonight -- and he's had about 15-20 boards in each game. I think we'll see him back in the varsity rotation pretty shortly.

I've seen a team forced to play shorthanded once or twice before, but never for that long a period of time -- and I've never seen the team with four players actually win the game, with it being an especially remarkable feat because the game was so close.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

BlueJay21

Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 08, 2009, 01:01:38 AM
I've seen a team forced to play shorthanded once or twice before, but never for that long a period of time -- and I've never seen the team with four players actually win the game, with it being an especially remarkable feat because the game was so close.

Gotta love the 4 on 5 victory. In my freshman year at Elmhurst our JV team was hosting the Titans whose roster included Andrew Freeman, Gant, Chamernik, Gilmore and Jordan Morris and this same thing happened to us. We were actually losing the game when our 5th player fouled out with 2 minutes left to go in the game. Somehow our vaunted 2-2 zone allowed us to keep the game close and we won it on a 3 point shot at the buzzer. Definitely one of the most memorable wins in my basketball career.

Moser

New Top 25:

Wheaton #8
Augie #15
Carthage #24

IWU drops out. Not much of a drop for Wheaton, which is kind of surprising.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: BlueJay21 on December 08, 2009, 12:50:30 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 08, 2009, 01:01:38 AM
I've seen a team forced to play shorthanded once or twice before, but never for that long a period of time -- and I've never seen the team with four players actually win the game, with it being an especially remarkable feat because the game was so close.

Gotta love the 4 on 5 victory. In my freshman year at Elmhurst our JV team was hosting the Titans whose roster included Andrew Freeman, Gant, Chamernik, Gilmore and Jordan Morris and this same thing happened to us. We were actually losing the game when our 5th player fouled out with 2 minutes left to go in the game. Somehow our vaunted 2-2 zone allowed us to keep the game close and we won it on a 3 point shot at the buzzer. Definitely one of the most memorable wins in my basketball career.

Gotta love that 2-2 zone ... and I'll bet that Scherer never worked on it much in practice. :D

I told NPU freshman Zach Dungee that this would be a game that he'd tell his grandkids about someday. I just hope that Zach doesn't tell them that he was the one who scored 36 points. I know what grandfathers are like. ;)
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

armywife

Does anyone know if Augie is going to make it out of town on time today? I know that flights at O'Hare are delayed or cancelled, but I'm not sure about Midway. If you have Direct TV or Dish Network you can catch the game on television. It starts at 8:00 tomorrow night.
2 Peter 1:5-10

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Moser on December 08, 2009, 01:55:59 PM
New Top 25:

Wheaton #8
Augie #15
Carthage #24

IWU drops out. Not much of a drop for Wheaton, which is kind of surprising.

The pollsters probably felt that the big win over ORV Chicago and Saturday's recovery triumph over a Calvin team that isn't drawing any votes but which still enjoys residual respect from everyone helped to somewhat offset the blowout loss to Hope on the Dutch's home floor.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

petemcb

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Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 08, 2009, 02:52:18 PM
Quote from: Moser on December 08, 2009, 01:55:59 PM
New Top 25:

Wheaton #8
Augie #15
Carthage #24

IWU drops out. Not much of a drop for Wheaton, which is kind of surprising.

The pollsters probably felt that the big win over ORV Chicago and Saturday's recovery triumph over a Calvin team that isn't drawing any votes but which still enjoys residual respect from everyone helped to somewhat offset the blowout loss to Hope on the Dutch's home floor.

Probably the first time I've seen University of Chicago and Off Road Vehicle in the same sentence.  Leave it to the resident wordsmith.