MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[petemcb]

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=349101&src=289

"The Sexauer kid killed us inside," Derek Raridon said. "He was much more physical than us, and we had a really tough time trying to stop him. It was frustrating because we knew what he was doing every time, but he still scored on us."


Can a freshman call a junior "kid"?  What's the protocol there?

HOFer Gary Carter is still "the kid".  Maybe it's a compliment from a Gary Carter fan. 

[petemcb]

Is Augie freshman Luke Scarlata injured?  I recently heard he was out for the season, but I have no idea how credible the info is.

Stress fracture in his foot. 4-6 weeks.

Any word on whether Brandon Kunz from Lake Zurich will get any of his minutes?  The couple of times I saw him in high school, he looked like he could be a CCIW stud at some point.

[Titan Q]

Is Augie freshman Luke Scarlata injured?  I recently heard he was out for the season, but I have no idea how credible the info is.

Stress fracture in his foot. 4-6 weeks.

Any word on whether Brandon Kunz from Lake Zurich will get any of his minutes?  The couple of times I saw him in high school, he looked like he could be a CCIW stud at some point.

Here is Augie's 4/5 rotation vs North Park...

Starters:
Kyle Nelson (6-9 Jr) - 28 min
Terrence Green (6-10 Sr) - 10 min

Reserves:
George Dexter (6-7 Fr) - 14 min
Kameron Norton (6-6 Fr) - 18 min
Brandon Kunz (6-7 Fr) - 11 min

http://www.augustana.edu/athletics/mbasketball/stats/2009-10/10mbb12.htm

[OurHouse]

Nice to start the year off with a road win.  IWU's center platoon did a lot of damage...

Doug Sexauer: 23 pts (11-12 FG)
Ryan Connolly: 10 pts (4-6 FG)

Dan Schouten had 9 big 2nd half points.  Sean Johnson finished with 12, Jordan Zimmer had 10 & 5, and Sean Dwyer dished out 9 assists.  Travis Rosenkranz (9 pts, 3 assists) quietly had a nice game...made 2 FT's and a basket in the final minutes to help close it out.

Sounds like IWU just had too much size and depth for NCC.  Although, it sounded like there were some tough matchups on the defensive end of the floor for the Titans, with NCC being so much smaller and quicker.  Interestingly, IWU shot the ball 10 less times from the field and 10 less times from the FT line...and still led the final 35 minutes or so (and fairly comfortably most of the way).

Wow does Derek Raridon sound good...34 points in his first career CCIW game.  David Twyman had a big game too - 24 points.  Reid Barringer finished with just 5 points.

Unfortunately I have to go shovel to driveway now (although I can't complain since it's the first time I've had to shovel in 2 years in Columbia, Mo.).

Somehow I doubt the 25th ranked team in the country anticipated winning by only a 5 point margin over the team picked to finish 7th in conference. And, while the Titans were taller, deeper, and more experienced that the Cardinals in the middle, the Titan center platoon was not the primary reason for their victory last night in Naperville. If the Cards shoot just 4 of 13 on 3 pointers, Wesleyan loses.

The Cardinal game plan foresaw Doug Sexauer getting about the number of points he garnered. The hope was that he would have to take a few more shots to do so. Also, Ryan Connolly, who I think has an impressively nice touch around the basket to go with his size, was also virtually unstopable. However, Connolly, in scoring right at about his average, was also not part of one of the primary reasons for the Titan victory.
Rather, the 2 main reasons the Wesleyan 5 emerged victorious were.
1. Dan Schouten. While almost all the Titans besides Sexauer, again whose output was expected, scored at or below their averages, Schouten scored 5 points above his average, and 5 points was the difference in the game.
2. An off night shooting for the NCC guards. And, no, the poor shooting wasn't really due to superior defense, but rather a failure to either get, or try to get, to the basket, and just plain poor marksmanship.   

The much taller Titans collected only 3 more rebounds that their vertically challenged hosts, and the smaller, quicker Cardinals were able to force 17 TOs, including 5 by Sean Johnson who appeared quite frustrated in only being able to get off two 3 point shots, neither successfully. The Cardinals received superlative efforts from Derek Raridon, David Twyman, and Brian Evans, all 3 of whom had career high scoring games with 34, 24. and 16 points respectively. For Raridon. it was the 7th game in a row where he has scored more than 20 points. Evans, at only 6'3", going against the Wesleyan sequoias, also had a game high 8 rebounds. Again, these 3 unfortunately got little or no support.

   

The NCC coach is not good and Sexauer took his son to school

MMW's

[petemcb]

Nice to start the year off with a road win.  IWU's center platoon did a lot of damage...

Doug Sexauer: 23 pts (11-12 FG)
Ryan Connolly: 10 pts (4-6 FG)

Dan Schouten had 9 big 2nd half points.  Sean Johnson finished with 12, Jordan Zimmer had 10 & 5, and Sean Dwyer dished out 9 assists.  Travis Rosenkranz (9 pts, 3 assists) quietly had a nice game...made 2 FT's and a basket in the final minutes to help close it out.

Sounds like IWU just had too much size and depth for NCC.  Although, it sounded like there were some tough matchups on the defensive end of the floor for the Titans, with NCC being so much smaller and quicker.  Interestingly, IWU shot the ball 10 less times from the field and 10 less times from the FT line...and still led the final 35 minutes or so (and fairly comfortably most of the way).

Wow does Derek Raridon sound good...34 points in his first career CCIW game.  David Twyman had a big game too - 24 points.  Reid Barringer finished with just 5 points.

Unfortunately I have to go shovel to driveway now (although I can't complain since it's the first time I've had to shovel in 2 years in Columbia, Mo.).

Somehow I doubt the 25th ranked team in the country anticipated winning by only a 5 point margin over the team picked to finish 7th in conference. And, while the Titans were taller, deeper, and more experienced that the Cardinals in the middle, the Titan center platoon was not the primary reason for their victory last night in Naperville. If the Cards shoot just 4 of 13 on 3 pointers, Wesleyan loses.

The Cardinal game plan foresaw Doug Sexauer getting about the number of points he garnered. The hope was that he would have to take a few more shots to do so. Also, Ryan Connolly, who I think has an impressively nice touch around the basket to go with his size, was also virtually unstopable. However, Connolly, in scoring right at about his average, was also not part of one of the primary reasons for the Titan victory.
Rather, the 2 main reasons the Wesleyan 5 emerged victorious were.
1. Dan Schouten. While almost all the Titans besides Sexauer, again whose output was expected, scored at or below their averages, Schouten scored 5 points above his average, and 5 points was the difference in the game.
2. An off night shooting for the NCC guards. And, no, the poor shooting wasn't really due to superior defense, but rather a failure to either get, or try to get, to the basket, and just plain poor marksmanship.   

The much taller Titans collected only 3 more rebounds that their vertically challenged hosts, and the smaller, quicker Cardinals were able to force 17 TOs, including 5 by Sean Johnson who appeared quite frustrated in only being able to get off two 3 point shots, neither successfully. The Cardinals received superlative efforts from Derek Raridon, David Twyman, and Brian Evans, all 3 of whom had career high scoring games with 34, 24. and 16 points respectively. For Raridon. it was the 7th game in a row where he has scored more than 20 points. Evans, at only 6'3", going against the Wesleyan sequoias, also had a game high 8 rebounds. Again, these 3 unfortunately got little or no support.

   

The NCC coach is not good and Sexauer took his son to school

MMW's

Two things:

1) After I read this, I logged in just to smite you.  I've never done that before.
2) I assume "MMW's" stands for mark my words.  That is a phrase used to make more emphatic a prediction you have made.  Your comment is not a prediction.  It's in inane comment.  There is nothing to "mark".

[AndOne]

Q,

What time are the games on Saturday between Carthage and Wesleyan??  Everywhere I go its different.  Thanks.

Aceon---

Don't know how many different starting times you found among the various sources you consulted. However, under the new conference mandated Sat women's/men's doubleheaders, the HOME team has the choice of starting the women's game at either 2:00 or 5:00. If the women play at 2:00, the men's game is at 4:30. If the home team elects to have the women start at 5:00, the men play at 7:30. These are the only 2 possibilities according to the commissioner's office.

[Gregory Sager]

Nice to start the year off with a road win.  IWU's center platoon did a lot of damage...

Doug Sexauer: 23 pts (11-12 FG)
Ryan Connolly: 10 pts (4-6 FG)

Dan Schouten had 9 big 2nd half points.  Sean Johnson finished with 12, Jordan Zimmer had 10 & 5, and Sean Dwyer dished out 9 assists.  Travis Rosenkranz (9 pts, 3 assists) quietly had a nice game...made 2 FT's and a basket in the final minutes to help close it out.

Sounds like IWU just had too much size and depth for NCC.  Although, it sounded like there were some tough matchups on the defensive end of the floor for the Titans, with NCC being so much smaller and quicker.  Interestingly, IWU shot the ball 10 less times from the field and 10 less times from the FT line...and still led the final 35 minutes or so (and fairly comfortably most of the way).

Wow does Derek Raridon sound good...34 points in his first career CCIW game.  David Twyman had a big game too - 24 points.  Reid Barringer finished with just 5 points.

Unfortunately I have to go shovel to driveway now (although I can't complain since it's the first time I've had to shovel in 2 years in Columbia, Mo.).

Somehow I doubt the 25th ranked team in the country anticipated winning by only a 5 point margin over the team picked to finish 7th in conference. And, while the Titans were taller, deeper, and more experienced that the Cardinals in the middle, the Titan center platoon was not the primary reason for their victory last night in Naperville. If the Cards shoot just 4 of 13 on 3 pointers, Wesleyan loses.

The Cardinal game plan foresaw Doug Sexauer getting about the number of points he garnered. The hope was that he would have to take a few more shots to do so. Also, Ryan Connolly, who I think has an impressively nice touch around the basket to go with his size, was also virtually unstopable. However, Connolly, in scoring right at about his average, was also not part of one of the primary reasons for the Titan victory.
Rather, the 2 main reasons the Wesleyan 5 emerged victorious were.
1. Dan Schouten. While almost all the Titans besides Sexauer, again whose output was expected, scored at or below their averages, Schouten scored 5 points above his average, and 5 points was the difference in the game.
2. An off night shooting for the NCC guards. And, no, the poor shooting wasn't really due to superior defense, but rather a failure to either get, or try to get, to the basket, and just plain poor marksmanship.   

The much taller Titans collected only 3 more rebounds that their vertically challenged hosts, and the smaller, quicker Cardinals were able to force 17 TOs, including 5 by Sean Johnson who appeared quite frustrated in only being able to get off two 3 point shots, neither successfully. The Cardinals received superlative efforts from Derek Raridon, David Twyman, and Brian Evans, all 3 of whom had career high scoring games with 34, 24. and 16 points respectively. For Raridon. it was the 7th game in a row where he has scored more than 20 points. Evans, at only 6'3", going against the Wesleyan sequoias, also had a game high 8 rebounds. Again, these 3 unfortunately got little or no support.

   

The NCC coach is not good and Sexauer took his son to school

MMW's

Dunno who was guarding Derek Raridon for the Titans, but the NCC freshman forward scored a career-high 34 points on 10-15 shooting from the field (including 2-2 from beyond the arc) and 12-13 from the FT line. In other words, if there was schooling going on, somebody wearing green was getting schooled at the other end of the floor by Raridon just as much as Raridon was getting schooled by Sexauer.

[iwumichigander]

Looking at the stats, I'd agree with And One on his NCC analysis.  As a Titan fan, any time you can walk out of the Hangar with a "W" it's a good evening.

NCC may not finish the CCIW in the top two or three but it will be in the mix.  I would not be all that surprised to see NCC in the conference tournament. This current Cardinals team just seems to lack a little depth but the potential seems to be there.

[Titan Q]

Someone sent me an audio file today of the final moments of the final game between Illinois Wesleyan and Illinois State (January of 1970).  This article by an IWU student helps frame all of the emotion leading up to the game...  

http://www.iwuhoops.com/isu.htm

And that WJBC audio of the final seconds...

http://www.iwuhoops.com/iwuisu.mp3


As IWU looks back at 100 years of men's basketball, I have to believe this moment was near the top.  I wasn't born when this game was played, but kind of feel like I was one of the 7000 at Horton Fieldhouse that day...I've heard so many various stories about it.  Tom Gramkow became an instant IWU legend.

[pcarr]

More multimedia fun, with video of the two Wheaton buzzer-beaters against Pomona-Pitzer.  Links courtesy the Wheaton Athletics site...

Spencer Schultze's putback in the first OT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbqsxFHsi6w

Ben Panner's trey in the third OT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o04JiDcNvXs

[Dennis_Prikkel]

Someone sent me an audio file today of the final moments of the final game between Illinois Wesleyan and Illinois State (January of 1970).  This article by an IWU student helps frame all of the emotion leading up to the game...  

http://www.iwuhoops.com/isu.htm

And that WJBC audio of the final seconds...

http://www.iwuhoops.com/iwuisu.mp3


As IWU looks back at 100 years of men's basketball, I have to believe this moment was near the top.  I wasn't born when this game was played, but kind of feel like I was one of the 7000 at Horton Fieldhouse that day...I've heard so many various stories about it.  Tom Gramkow became an instant IWU legend.

For many years in the Fred Young Fieldhouse that I remember there was a photograph of "The Last Second, The last shot, the last game".

[Dennis_Prikkel]

top four that i've seen in person

1- Mike Gordon's 60-footer to beat then #1 Augustana at North Park in 1982

2- Jim VanDeCastele's second-round buzzer beater versus Glenville State in the 2nd round of the NAIA Tournament in 1972 (or was it 1974?)

3- A halfcourt set shot by a MacMurray guard in a New Year's Eve game at Wheaton in 1970.  Dan McCarrell and I had trouble keeping a straight face after this one.  Wheaton had just taken a one-point lead on a driving layup by Tom Dykstra with six seconds to play and the Crusaders were still celebrating when the Scots, with no timeouts left, threw the ball out to halfcourt, where the un-guarded Scot turned and shot, - the final horn had already finished sounding when the high-arching shot drew nothing but net.

4- Keith French's rejection of a driving layup at the buzzer versus Longwood in the 1980 NCAA semi-final.  Longwood coach Ron Bash spent the next five minutes trying to find an official to call goal-tending, but refs Sell and Jaspers had left the building.

[iwumichigander]

Someone sent me an audio file today of the final moments of the final game between Illinois Wesleyan and Illinois State (January of 1970).  This article by an IWU student helps frame all of the emotion leading up to the game...  

http://www.iwuhoops.com/isu.htm

And that WJBC audio of the final seconds...

http://www.iwuhoops.com/iwuisu.mp3


As IWU looks back at 100 years of men's basketball, I have to believe this moment was near the top.  I wasn't born when this game was played, but kind of feel like I was one of the 7000 at Horton Fieldhouse that day...I've heard so many various stories about it.  Tom Gramkow became an instant IWU legend.

I was there.  And, the descriptions just really don't do the tension created by this contest justice.

In 1970 Will Robinson was hired as the head coach at Illinois State University, making him the first black head coach in NCAA Division I basketball.   Robinson had Doug Collins on that 1970 ISU team.  And, many associated with ISU were concerned about how another game with IWU would impact ISU (for most among ISU a loss was not the concern because most among ISU were not contemplating a loss, it was the 'perception' of playing 'the small school down the road').  Will Robinson, on the other hand, knew exactly what difficulties a loss might create for the program he was trying to establish. And, Robinson was well aware the two teams had split the home and away series the prior season.

The negotiations between the two schools were intense to say the least.  IWU had lost the '68-69 contest own its home court to Illinois State* 79-86.  But ISU's track record , against a Dennie Bridges coached IWU was not exactly stellar particularly if you were trying to build a D1 reputation.  And, as I recall it, there was a game remaining on the contract between the two schools.

After much discussion, cussin' and wrangling, it was agreed the game would be played on ISU's home court but ISU wanted it to be the final last game in a series that extended back to the very first (recorded) basketball game IWU played in 1909.  A series in which IWU held a 68-42 edge.  Despite all the discussions over which ball would be used, what officials, what time the game would start, etc. - all this just fueled the fire between the teams, the athletic departments, the campuses and within the twin cities community - game on and the result - history!

And, to the best of my knowledge, ISU has had no interest in any discussion of playing IWU in basketball since despite the two schools continuing to play baseball.  

[Gregory Sager]

Nobody's mentioned this yet, but for the first time that I can remember the league schedule has been set up in such a way as to make it possible for a fan to attend a Saturday CCIW men's basketball doubleheader. Both the Millikin @ North Park and North Central @ Wheaton games are scheduled for 4:30 tomorrow afternoon, with the Augustana @ Elmhurst game scheduled for 7:30. Fans can easily get from one of those two afternoon games over to Faganel Hall in plenty of time to see Augie and EC square off in the evening game.

(The Carthage @ Illinois Wesleyan game is also at 4:30. If you were to attend that contest and then head up I-55 to the western suburbs, you'd probably miss at least the first half of the AC @ EC game.)

There's been a certain amount of grousing about the CCIW's decision to mandate women's/men's doubleheaders, but a benefit from it (derived from the option of playing the doubleheaders either in the afternoon or the evening) is that fans for the first time will get an opportunity to see four of the league's eight men's basketball teams play in one day. It doesn't appear that there are any other Saturdays in which this scenario will play out, however.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Someone sent me an audio file today of the final moments of the final game between Illinois Wesleyan and Illinois State (January of 1970).  This article by an IWU student helps frame all of the emotion leading up to the game...  

http://www.iwuhoops.com/isu.htm

And that WJBC audio of the final seconds...

http://www.iwuhoops.com/iwuisu.mp3


As IWU looks back at 100 years of men's basketball, I have to believe this moment was near the top.  I wasn't born when this game was played, but kind of feel like I was one of the 7000 at Horton Fieldhouse that day...I've heard so many various stories about it.  Tom Gramkow became an instant IWU legend.

I was there.  And, the descriptions just really don't do the tension created by this contest justice.

In 1970 Will Robinson was hired as the head coach at Illinois State University, making him the first black head coach in NCAA Division I basketball.   Robinson had Doug Collins on that 1970 ISU team.  And, many associated with ISU were concerned about how another game with IWU would impact ISU (for most among ISU a loss was not the concern because most among ISU were not contemplating a loss, it was the 'perception' of playing 'the small school down the road').  Will Robinson, on the other hand, knew exactly what difficulties a loss might create for the program he was trying to establish. And, Robinson was well aware the two teams had split the home and away series the prior season.

The negotiations between the two schools were intense to say the least.  IWU had lost the '68-69 contest own its home court to Illinois State* 79-86.  But ISU's track record , against a Dennie Bridges coached IWU was not exactly stellar particularly if you were trying to build a D1 reputation.  And, as I recall it, there was a game remaining on the contract between the two schools.

After much discussion, cussin' and wrangling, it was agreed the game would be played on ISU's home court but ISU wanted it to be the final last game in a series that extended back to the very first (recorded) basketball game IWU played in 1909.  A series in which IWU held a 68-42 edge.  Despite all the discussions over which ball would be used, what officials, what time the game would start, etc. - all this just fueled the fire between the teams, the athletic departments, the campuses and within the twin cities community - game on and the result - history!

And, to the best of my knowledge, ISU has had no interest in any discussion of playing IWU in basketball since despite the two schools continuing to play baseball.  

I, too, was there (my senior year) - the partying after THAT finish was something else!   And, yeah, if Tom had run for mayor, all other candidates would have dropped out in despair!

A perfect ending when ISU wouldn't play us anymore since 'it wouldn't be competitive'!   [And, in fairness, most years it wouldn't have been, once ISU became truly d1 - but ISU vs. Sikma, et. al., would have really been something!]