MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Mr. Ypsi]

What MOST struck me about that list was not the number of times 'Gobbo' appeared, but that Jesse Price was only on it ONCE!  I was at the game he made it for, but I could have sworn he AVERAGED forty points a game!  Most amazing CCIW player I ever saw.

[CCIWchamps]

Schultze won't stay in the starting lineup. Although he is becoming more offensive minded.  Carwell will need a backup anyway since he gets in foul trouble frequently. Schultze will be an offensive threat by next year.  He's really improving.  Wheaton just has no scorers other than Panner and McCrary.  McCary's post defense is fantastic. The first half he held N.C.'s leading scorer to 5 or 6 points. 2nd half Carwell defended him at times, so he ended up with 19.

I agree.  McCrary's defense is tough.  I am amazed at how much he has grown since last year- both physically being taller, and as a player.  I'm happy to see he has 2 more years to continue.  He's looking good now.

[Dennis_Prikkel]

it would be interesting for the CCIW SID to have a points per game record for a career - CCIW games only (with a minimum of 20 games played).

I would think the top three would probably be:

1- Bill Warden (about 30 per game)
2- Leon Gobczynski (about 28 per game)
3- Scott Steagall (about 25 per game)

that's my guess.

If there wasn't a minumum number of games played than Claude White of Elmhurst would be the leader.  White led the nation in scoring one year and left the team after about 16 games and did not appear in enough CCIW games to lead the conference.  His average was about 34 per game.

[Viking Blue]

Call me crazy, but let me be the first one to throw this bomb out there:

What are the odds that Jerry Wainright winds up taking over a CCIW program sometime in the near future?  Stranger things have happened....

[Dennis_Prikkel]

Call me crazy, but let me be the first one to throw this bomb out there:

What are the odds that Jerry Wainright winds up taking over a CCIW program sometime in the near future?  Stranger things have happened....

OY

Bill Hausman once thought of asking Ray Meyer to take over the North Park program after Dan McCarrell left.

[usee]

New D3 poll is out:

#21 IWU

ORV: Wheaton (60), Augie (23), Carthage (3)

[OurHouse]

• Overall, I was thrilled with the effort and the intensity IWU played with today.  The Titans look like a team that is starting to play with a lot of confidence.  I'd be very surprised if they are not in the CCIW title race until the very end.  

[/quote]

Intensity? Confidence?
You're taking that right from my book Homer..

..so
IWU will take 1st in conference this year
IWU will WIN the conference championship this year

..now, if they CONTINUE to play with Intensity, Desire, and Confidence, they will go deep in the playoffs.

MMW'ds

[Titan Q]

Some interesting matchups tonight...


Augustana (9-4, 2-0) @ Wheaton (9-4, 1-1) - the league leader in rebound margin (Augie, +12.0 per game through 2) vs a Wheaton team that is has been out-rebounded by an average of 3.5 per game so far.  Wheaton has the second fewest offensive rebounds on the season overall (422, better than only Elmhurst), while Augustana leads the season overall stats in both defensive and offensive rebounds.  Will Augie dominate the boards tonight at Wheaton?


Millikin (6-7, 1-1) @ IWU (11-2, 2-0) - the league leader in points/game on the season overall (IWU, 80.2) vs the league leader in points allowed (MU, 60.9).  Through 2 CCIW games, IWU leads in FG% (.622) and Millikin in opponent FG% (.398).  How effectively will the Big Blue be able to slow down IWU's high-powered offense?


North Park (7-6, 1-1) @ North Central (7-6, 0-2) - NCC stayed within 5 of IWU at home and within 3 of Wheaton on the road and would seem to be the favorite in this one at home.  Can NPU slow down 6-6 freshman Derek Raridon, the CCIW's leading scorer in the early going (26.5 ppg, 19-21 FT)?


Elmhurst (5-8, 0-2) @ Carthage (9-4, 1-1) - a must win home game for Carthage vs an Elmhurst team that looks headed for the bottom 4.  How will Steve Djurickovic respond after a sub-par game @ IWU?

[Titan Q]

Greg, your list above is missing Luke Kasten (IWU '03).  Luke finished with 1045 CCIW points.

Fresh - 260
Soph - 253
Junior - 293
Senior - 239


I'm not sure if others are missing, but Luke's the one that jumped out to me, so I checked.  He started for 4 years and was a scorer from day one.

It's not my list, Bob, it's the CCIW website's. I simply copied it. You should pass that info along to CCIW SID Mike Krizman.

Looks like the "1000 points scored" list has already been corrected...

http://www.cciw.org/winter_bball_m/MBB_Records.pdf

[Gregory Sager]

Either somebody e-mailed Mike Krizman or he's reading our daily blizzard of nonsense.

[markerickson]

I remember hearing that a DePaul assistant coach was North Park's top choice to replace Bosko, but the salary was too low.  Can't remember who was subsequently offered the job after that.  Keith Peterson ultimately got the job, but that was after two or three people turned down the job. 

[Gregory Sager]

I remember hearing that a DePaul assistant coach was North Park's top choice to replace Bosko, but the salary was too low.  Can't remember who was subsequently offered the job after that.  Keith Peterson ultimately got the job, but that was after two or three people turned down the job. 

Peterson was actually the fourth choice, behind a former DePaul assistant, the former head coach at Arkansas-Little Rock, and the then-current head coach of Rose-Hulman.

[wheels81]

Some interesting matchups tonight...


Augustana (9-4, 2-0) @ Wheaton (9-4, 1-1) - the league leader in rebound margin (Augie, +12.0 per game through 2) vs a Wheaton team that is has been out-rebounded by an average of 3.5 per game so far.  Wheaton has the second fewest offensive rebounds on the season overall (422, better than only Elmhurst), while Augustana leads the season overall stats in both defensive and offensive rebounds.  Will Augie dominate the boards tonight at Wheaton?


Millikin (6-7, 1-1) @ IWU (11-2, 2-0) - the league leader in points/game on the season overall (IWU, 80.2) vs the league leader in points allowed (MU, 60.9).  Through 2 CCIW games, IWU leads in FG% (.622) and Millikin in opponent FG% (.398).  How effectively will the Big Blue be able to slow down IWU's high-powered offense?


North Park (7-6, 1-1) @ North Central (7-6, 0-2) - NCC stayed within 5 of IWU at home and within 3 of Wheaton on the road and would seem to be the favorite in this one at home.  Can NPU slow down 6-6 freshman Derek Raridon, the CCIW's leading scorer in the early going (26.5 ppg, 19-21 FT)?


Elmhurst (5-8, 0-2) @ Carthage (9-4, 1-1) - a must win home game for Carthage vs an Elmhurst team that looks headed for the bottom 4.  How will Steve Djurickovic respond after a sub-par game @ IWU?

Rebounding differences are used a lot to show one team's theoretical dominance over another but sometimes, I repeat sometimes there's more going on.  So I decided to waste a few minutes in looking a "little" closer.

I did a little rough number crunching on the rebounding statistics looking at the FG% and Opp FG%.  The biggest difference in the amount of rebounds Augie gets on the the boards is roughly 46% of their missed shots are retrieved by them as opposed to Wheaton gathering 30% of their own missed shots.  

(Moses Malone benefitted from playing rebound drills on his own glass that helped beeg up his rebounding stats.)

Defensive rebounding is much closer as Augie and Wheaton get 81%.

I did not factor in any missed free throws because unless you go over every game you don't know which misses were counted as dead ball rebounds and I ignored FG attempts that missed and then went out of bounds thus the term "rough" number crunching.  

I did this when I saw the disparity in Team FG% of Augie being .442 and Wheaton being .501.  I thought maybe because they missed more shots they would have more opportunities to get offensive rebounds.
That is true but it appears that they are much more effecient at gathering their own shots.  
IWU leads the league in FG% but they also gather closer to 35% of their own misses which seems to be closer to league average.  IW gets close 83% of their opponents misses.  This is also why they are 1 in defensive rebounds.  

[Dennis_Prikkel]

I remember hearing that a DePaul assistant coach was North Park's top choice to replace Bosko, but the salary was too low.  Can't remember who was subsequently offered the job after that.  Keith Peterson ultimately got the job, but that was after two or three people turned down the job. 

Peterson was actually the fourth choice, behind a former DePaul assistant, the former head coach at Arkansas-Little Rock, and the then-current head coach of Rose-Hulman.

Well I was on the committee that made the selection of Bosko's successor and I don't remember any DePaul assistants in the interview process.  I know that back then we had four strong candidates for the job.  I wonder if the job was opened now if the field would be as strong.

[CCIWFAN3]

Excellent point Wheels81.  You're exactly right.  Rebounding stats need to allow for the FG% during the game.  If a team shoots 70% from the field, the opposing team's defensive rebounding stats won't look too good:)  Assists are sometimes misleading as well.   I take most stats with a grain of salt...until I actually see the player:)