MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[coebball70]

Damn, Greg, you have a way with words.  I am glad you're a NPU fan and I appreciate your posts.

[Gregory Sager]

Thanks, coebb!

[Dennis_Prikkel]

Quote from: Viking Mike on Today at 09:07:45 am
CCIW fans can say whatever they want about him, but his passion for the game is tremendous and he brings a demeanor to the game that seems to mirror his teams...... tough and relentless.  The Vikings are not the smoothest team to watch, but you can never question the heart of Augie or their coach. 
Glad he coaches the good guys!!!

response from GS
That last sentence caused such an eye-roll that I gave myself a headache.

I laughed so hard after reading both these paragraphs I got a headache.

A team mirrors a coach - not vice versa.  Kudos to the Augie coach for getting his team to play hard - but he is still an A$$ on the floor.

but he is still an A$$ on the floor.

Wasn't this a YouTube sensation recently?

Oh wait, never mind, that was Pants on the Ground.

The game................Jeopordy
The category...........DIII coaches
The question...........What DIII coach combines great coaching ability with
                                "demonstrative" on court behavior to instantly conjure
                                up an image of former bad boy DI coach Bobby Knight?

My favorite Grey Giovanine observation was a few years ago near the end of a game at Augie when, vehemently protesting a foul call, Giovanine rushed onto the court, ripping off his sport coat as he charged. When he got the coat off, he grabbed it by the end of one sleeve and twirled it round and round over his head like a lasso, all the while screaming at the ref and stomping his foot on the floor. By the time he concluded his performance, he was standing almost at center court. He was so out of control, I was worried he was going to have a stroke.   
At the conclusion of the game he chased the refs off the court and down the hall,  still screaming unflattering remarks in their direction until they reached the safety of the locker room
                               

This will probably win me the award for nitpick of the year, but if it was Jeopardy we are playing in this post, wouldn't that be the answer and not the question :-)

"Anal bum cover for $100, Trebek."

I may never get off the floor.  Its funny how incendiary the Augiestana folks get in defense of their coach.  A fun day following this thread.  Thanks for the entertainment  in the midst of another frustrating NPU season.

[cardinalpride]

Damn, Greg, you have a way with words.  I am glad you're a NPU fan and I appreciate your posts.

He has raised my IQ at least 20pts since I've been on the boards! 
non sequitur is that even in the english language?     I like reading his posts!  Even if it is a retort to my post. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Damn, Greg, you have a way with words.  I am glad you're a NPU fan and I appreciate your posts.

He has raised my IQ at least 20pts since I've been on the boards! 
non sequitur is that even in the english language?     I like reading his posts!  Even if it is a retort to my post. 

If mea culpa is now a fully English word (as Greg insists, and is probably right), then surely non sequitur would be considered a part of the language as well.

I wonder if the same would be true for other errors in logic from the Latin (eg., non sequitur ['it does not follow'], ad hominem ['attack the speaker, not the argument'], ad populum ['appeal to popular passions'], etc.?

[Gregory Sager]

Damn, Greg, you have a way with words.  I am glad you're a NPU fan and I appreciate your posts.

He has raised my IQ at least 20pts since I've been on the boards!  
non sequitur is that even in the english language?    I like reading his posts!  Even if it is a retort to my post.  

If mea culpa is now a fully English word (as Greg insists, and is probably right), then surely non sequitur would be considered a part of the language as well.

It is. That's why I left it in roman type, rather than italicized.

I wonder if the same would be true for other errors in logic from the Latin (eg., non sequitur ['it does not follow'], ad hominem ['attack the speaker, not the argument'], ad populum ['appeal to popular passions'], etc.?

The first and second ("non sequitur" and "ad hominem") are now part of the English language, the third (ad populum) isn't. The easiest way to check is by consulting www.dictionary.com; "ad hominem", for instance, is cited in four different English dictionaries as having officially entered our lexicon. "Ad hominem" is used fairly often in English-language conversation and writing and is understood by a wide range of people who can't speak a word of Latin, as are "non sequitur", "mea culpa", "habeas corpus", and "bona fide", which is why they've officially been accepted as loanwords. Ad populum isn't widely used or understood by Anglophones; in fact, when you see it, it's usually as part of a very lofty discussion among specialists in rhetoric regarding debate techniques, and it's usually contained within the full phrase argumentum ad populum (as is my personal favorite in terms of logical fallacies, argumentum ad baculam [literally, 'argument to the big stick'], which is a fancy way of saying "might makes right" for those of you who want to cultivate the image of a well-educated bully ).

[iwu70]

Greg, you mean like Bill O'Reilly?

I love the lofty character of our discourse here. 

Looking forward to the weekend IWU games at Wheaton. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Greg, you mean like Bill O'Reilly?

I love the lofty character of our discourse here.  

Looking forward to the weekend IWU games at Wheaton.  

At least you said Bill O'Reilly (who has two master's degrees), not Glenn Beck!

Beck has of course been crazy for years, but has totally lost it.  He thinks the overthrow of Mubarak was an alliance of communists and islamist radicals (he strongly implied that Obama and Osama are working a joint agenda), with even both Bushes as willing allies.  He claims the ONLY spot in Iraq off-limits to bombers in both Iraq wars was the (World Heritage site) ruins of Baghdad (an archeological site of no conceivable military value), since it is intended as the seat of the caliphate planned by the commies and muslims (or 'commuslims' to one wag).  Sad to see even a nut totally self-destruct - today he told his critics (on broadcast) to 'go to hell'!

[Sorry if this came off as a political post - it was meant as a media/celebrity post.]

[shepherd]

Greg, you mean like Bill O'Reilly?

I love the lofty character of our discourse here.  

Looking forward to the weekend IWU games at Wheaton.  

At least you said Bill O'Reilly (who has two master's degrees), not Glenn Beck!

Beck has of course been crazy for years, but has totally lost it.  He thinks the overthrow of Mubarak was an alliance of communists and islamist radicals (he strongly implied that Obama and Osama are working a joint agenda), with even both Bushes as willing allies.  He claims the ONLY spot in Iraq off-limits to bombers in both Iraq wars was the (World Heritage site) ruins of Baghdad (an archeological site of no conceivable military value), since it is intended as the seat of the caliphate planned by the commies and muslims (or 'commuslims' to one wag).  Sad to see even a nut totally self-destruct - today he told his critics (on broadcast) to 'go to hell'!

[Sorry if this came off as a political post - it was meant as a media/celebrity post.]

I didn't know keith olbermann was a CCIW basketball fan.

[petemcb]

Damn, Greg, you have a way with words.  I am glad you're a NPU fan and I appreciate your posts.

He has raised my IQ at least 20pts since I've been on the boards!  
non sequitur is that even in the english language?    I like reading his posts!  Even if it is a retort to my post.  

If mea culpa is now a fully English word (as Greg insists, and is probably right), then surely non sequitur would be considered a part of the language as well.

It is. That's why I left it in roman type, rather than italicized.

I wonder if the same would be true for other errors in logic from the Latin (eg., non sequitur ['it does not follow'], ad hominem ['attack the speaker, not the argument'], ad populum ['appeal to popular passions'], etc.?

The first and second ("non sequitur" and "ad hominem") are now part of the English language, the third (ad populum) isn't. The easiest way to check is by consulting www.dictionary.com; "ad hominem", for instance, is cited in four different English dictionaries as having officially entered our lexicon. "Ad hominem" is used fairly often in English-language conversation and writing and is understood by a wide range of people who can't speak a word of Latin, as are "non sequitur", "mea culpa", "habeas corpus", and "bona fide", which is why they've officially been accepted as loanwords. Ad populum isn't widely used or understood by Anglophones; in fact, when you see it, it's usually as part of a very lofty discussion among specialists in rhetoric regarding debate techniques, and it's usually contained within the full phrase argumentum ad populum (as is my personal favorite in terms of logical fallacies, argumentum ad baculam [literally, 'argument to the big stick'], which is a fancy way of saying "might makes right" for those of you who want to cultivate the image of a well-educated bully ).

So if I've followed this now lengthy thread correctly, you're saying that the Augie coach has completed his graduate work? 

[iwu70]

Regarding the Augie coach, let's hope so.   From all reports, he and Coach D at Carthage seemed to have missed the module on congeniality.  Perhaps they were studying Latin that day.  Is that ad hominem or ad populum?  I'm confused.  There must be a proper Latin word for "getting off the bus with the best players."

Titan women have won at Wheaton, in a close one.  Now ever closer to the CCIW title.  Stacey Arlis again a monster game.  I just don't know how you keep her off the CCIW first team.  Monster games in monster games.

Chuck, I'll leave Glenn Beck to you.  Gladly, he's not much on our TV in Hong Kong.  My hat is off to the Egyptian people, that's for sure.   

[titanhammer]

"Like" - WETN guys praying for Travis, as he is down on the floor.  I also pray he is OK.

[Titan Q]

My prayers are with Travis.  This is scary.

[Titan Q]

Coach Steinbrueck just visited with Eric Stock on WJBC.  Travis took an inadvertent knee to the head.  He is able to moving his limbs, but appears to have a concussion.  Spoke to someone in the gym who said Travis did not really know who anyone around his was, or where he was.

Stay strong, T.

[markerickson]

After returning from the Greater Chicago Food Depository, I was four blocks from the NP/EC game.  I decided to attend after intentionally missing numerous home games, which unfortunately included the victory over IWU.  I arrived at halftime with NP down, I think by 11.  NP chipped away by relying on their size.  Crosby ended with a game-high 23 and I think Boyd had 22.  I saw dribble penetration all game by NP guards, most notably Mr. Robinson...this has been lacking for a very long time.  Gabriel no doubt filled the void left by Gonzalez who did not suit.  Collins and Phil S. did not see any action during the second half.

Mike Gabriel has excellent footwork down low for a freshman and looks to distribute when possessing the rock in the paint.  Yes, he can pass.

NP fared well at the charity stripe tonight except during OT.  EC scored at least twice the number of points from beyond the arc than NP - so as I asked after the loss at EC - why can't you effectively defend against the trey when the opponent is clearly undersized?   EC had numerous turnovers in OT so NP won 77-71 or something like that.  

Every year I think is going to be better.  Let's hope those Lincoln Park HS (IL) boys and other non-seniors stick together...better things will happen!  No doubt a first-time appearance in the CCIW tourney.   Disclosure:  Born and raised to bleed MN Viking purple.