MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Titan Q]

PG
(WC) Jeremy Pflederer, 6-0 Sr – 9.2 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 2.6 apg, 2.0 A:TO
(MU) Rodney Clark, 6-0 Jr – 8.4 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.7 apg, 0.9 A:TO
(NPU) Roshawn Russell, 5-9 Sr – 8.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 2.5 apg , 2.0 A:TO
(NCC) Kevin Gillespie, 5-11 Sr – 7.6 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.6 apg, 1.5 A:TO
(AC) Brian DeSimone, 6-1 Sr – 7.2 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.9 apg, 2.9 A:TO
(IWU) Eliud Gonzalez, 5-9 Sr – 5.6 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 6.2 apg, 3.0 A:TO
(EC) D'Ante Foster, 5-11 Jr – 5.6 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.4 apg, 1.2 A:TO
(CC) Donte Logan, 5-11 Fr – 2.6 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 2.5 apg, 1.8 A:TO

Looking at the 2011-12 crop of CCIW point guards, I got to thinking that there are no superstars here.  The best PG's this year are guys you'd refer to as "solid", "dependable", etc...some very good basketball players here, but no All-American candidates. 

For 15 years or so it seems there has always been at least one superstar PG in the league.  From Steve Djurickovic, to Kent Raymond, to Adam Dauksas, to Antoine McDaniel, to Korey Coon, to Matt Nadelhoffer we've had a string of All-Americans.

I'm trying to think of an All-American-caliber PG out there somewhere on a local NAIA roster or another D3 roster that got away from the CCIW but can't seem to come up with one.

[iwu70]

My money and my admiration are still on Eliud Gonzalez . . . out of this group of PGs.  See, Q, I can even spell now -- at least for the 7:30 p.m. guys!

Happy New Year all!

IWU70

[Titan Q]

My money and my admiration are still on Eliud Gonzalez . . . out of this group of PGs.  See, Q, I can even spell now -- at least for the 7:30 p.m. guys!

Happy New Year all!

IWU70

Here is a blog entry from March 2008 with some comments about Eliud Gonzalez, shortly after he helped his Richards H.S. team win the 4A state championship...

http://blogs.suntimes.com/illinois/2008/03/small_school_gems_have_their_s_1.html

Let us begin with Gonzalez. While 6'5 Indiana State signee Carl Richard and 6'8 junior Shaun Pratl draw most of the accolades, both Richard and Pratl will be among the first to tell you that in many ways Gonzalez was the driving force behind Richards capturing the Class 4A championchip in the school's first ever appearance in the state finals.

Gonzalez, a 5'10 point guard, is not a prolific scorer and doesn't do anything flashy. What he does do tremendously well is run his team's offense, as he has good playmaking capabilities and plays under control. He is also outstanding defensively, as he puts pressure on the ball and is adept at being able to get into the passing lanes and force turnovers. In Richards' championship game victory over Zion-Benton, Gonzalez only scored 9 points, but came up with 5 assists and 3 steals.


Eliud has come as advertised - he's a very good leader on the floor and a terrific on-ball defender.  He is the kind of guy you want on your team going into the grind of the CCIW schedule.

[Lee]

I posted this week's schedule in the pickem room for anyone who wants to play.  I'll post the standings and next week's schedule on Sundays.

[bopol]

Team Name   Average Wins   95 CI Wins   
Augustana         11.6             9.1   14.0
Carthage             6.4             3.5   9.4
Elmhurst             6.1             3.2   9.1
IWU                  10.5             7.8   13.2
Millikin                1.1             0.0   3.0
North Central       5.1             2.2   8.0
North Park          4.0              1.3   6.8
Wheaton            11.2             8.6   13.7

Carthage is 4th.  Whoo-hoo...

By the way, I really like your site.  Two requests:

1) Can you put league in the xls file with the rankings of the team?
2) Can you put your site in your sig?

[John Gleich]

PG
(WC) Jeremy Pflederer, 6-0 Sr – 9.2 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 2.6 apg, 2.0 A:TO
(MU) Rodney Clark, 6-0 Jr – 8.4 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.7 apg, 0.9 A:TO
(NPU) Roshawn Russell, 5-9 Sr – 8.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 2.5 apg , 2.0 A:TO
(NCC) Kevin Gillespie, 5-11 Sr – 7.6 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.6 apg, 1.5 A:TO
(AC) Brian DeSimone, 6-1 Sr – 7.2 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.9 apg, 2.9 A:TO
(IWU) Eliud Gonzalez, 5-9 Sr – 5.6 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 6.2 apg, 3.0 A:TO
(EC) D'Ante Foster, 5-11 Jr – 5.6 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.4 apg, 1.2 A:TO
(CC) Donte Logan, 5-11 Fr – 2.6 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 2.5 apg, 1.8 A:TO

Looking at the 2011-12 crop of CCIW point guards, I got to thinking that there are no superstars here.  The best PG's this year are guys you'd refer to as "solid", "dependable", etc...some very good basketball players here, but no All-American candidates. 

For 15 years or so it seems there has always been at least one superstar PG in the league.  From Steve Djurickovic, to Kent Raymond, to Adam Dauksas, to Antoine McDaniel, to Korey Coon, to Matt Nadelhoffer we've had a string of All-Americans.

I'm trying to think of an All-American-caliber PG out there somewhere on a local NAIA roster or another D3 roster that got away from the CCIW but can't seem to come up with one.

I'm not sure that Milwaukee is really in CCIW territory... but Jerrel Harris almost certainly would have been a preseason All-American as a junior at UWSP if he hadn't followed former assistant Lance Randall to D-II St. Leo this off season (He averaged 7.7 and led UWSP to the national championship as a freshman and 15.4 last year as a sophomore).

[Titan Q]

PG
(WC) Jeremy Pflederer, 6-0 Sr – 9.2 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 2.6 apg, 2.0 A:TO
(MU) Rodney Clark, 6-0 Jr – 8.4 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.7 apg, 0.9 A:TO
(NPU) Roshawn Russell, 5-9 Sr – 8.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 2.5 apg , 2.0 A:TO
(NCC) Kevin Gillespie, 5-11 Sr – 7.6 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.6 apg, 1.5 A:TO
(AC) Brian DeSimone, 6-1 Sr – 7.2 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.9 apg, 2.9 A:TO
(IWU) Eliud Gonzalez, 5-9 Sr – 5.6 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 6.2 apg, 3.0 A:TO
(EC) D'Ante Foster, 5-11 Jr – 5.6 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.4 apg, 1.2 A:TO
(CC) Donte Logan, 5-11 Fr – 2.6 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 2.5 apg, 1.8 A:TO

Looking at the 2011-12 crop of CCIW point guards, I got to thinking that there are no superstars here.  The best PG's this year are guys you'd refer to as "solid", "dependable", etc...some very good basketball players here, but no All-American candidates. 

For 15 years or so it seems there has always been at least one superstar PG in the league.  From Steve Djurickovic, to Kent Raymond, to Adam Dauksas, to Antoine McDaniel, to Korey Coon, to Matt Nadelhoffer we've had a string of All-Americans.

I'm trying to think of an All-American-caliber PG out there somewhere on a local NAIA roster or another D3 roster that got away from the CCIW but can't seem to come up with one.

I'm not sure that Milwaukee is really in CCIW territory... but Jerrel Harris almost certainly would have been a preseason All-American as a junior at UWSP if he hadn't followed former assistant Lance Randall to D-II St. Leo this off season (He averaged 7.7 and led UWSP to the national championship as a freshman and 15.4 last year as a sophomore).

Milwaukee is definitely not CCIW recruiting territory.

I'm thinking of a guy like this from the Chicago area...

http://www.lewisflyers.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=3212&path=mbball


Not that any CCIW team really had a chance, but he would have been a Division III All-American PG.  I'm guessing that talent-wise, Adam Dauksas vs Chris McClellan is a push.

[John Gleich]

Milwaukee is definitely not CCIW recruiting territory.

Yeah, I wasn't sure to what extent Carthage recruited north... I didn't really think that many others would recruit north of the state line.

[Titan Q]

Milwaukee is definitely not CCIW recruiting territory.

Yeah, I wasn't sure to what extent Carthage recruited north... I didn't really think that many others would recruit north of the state line.

Even the school that gives the CCIW the "W" spends more time recruiting in the "I."

[Mr. Ypsi]

Yet another reason we should either go back to CCI or go to CCIIIIIIIW!  CCIW gives a 'Neville Chamberlain' appeasement gift to Carthage!

Astute readers may surmise that I am currently engrossed in yet another history of WWII.

[bopol]

Yet another reason we should either go back to CCI or go to CCIIIIIIIW!  CCIW gives a 'Neville Chamberlain' appeasement gift to Carthage!

Astute readers may surmise that I am currently engrossed in yet another history of WWII.

Any recommendations?  I like history books for the drive to and from work.

[Gregory Sager]

Milwaukee is definitely not CCIW recruiting territory.

Yeah, I wasn't sure to what extent Carthage recruited north... I didn't really think that many others would recruit north of the state line.

The CCIW hasn't really had much in the way of Wisconsin student-athletes since Carroll was in the league. Then, as now, Carroll was a Wisconsin-oriented school in terms of recruiting, and the Pioneers actually had a few basketball players from Milwaukee back in the day. Carthage would have one occasionally as well. You'll still find a modest minority of cheeseheads on the various Carthage sports rosters, but, as Bob said, the CCIW's lone 'W' spends a lot more time recruiting in the 'I' in just about every sport. But that's in keeping with the Carthage student body at large, which has a very heavy population of students who hail from south of the Halas-Lombardi Line.

Kenosha Reuther grad Malcom Kelly is the only Wisconsin-native CCIW basketball player who is getting varsity minutes at the moment, if I recall correctly.

Yet another reason we should either go back to CCI or go to CCIIIIIIIW!  CCIW gives a 'Neville Chamberlain' appeasement gift to Carthage!

Actually, when the league changed its name from the CCI to the CCIW in 1967, two out of the seven schools that were members at the time were Wisconsin-based. The league consisted of Augustana, Carroll, Carthage, Illinois Wesleyan, Millikin, North Central, and North Park when the name was changed. Elmhurst and Wheaton re-joined the league less than a year later.

[tjcummingsfan]

Just a little tidbit that y'all might enjoy.  Brian Nussbaum, former IWU player, hurt often but one of the ony two IWU players I would let myself root for (along with fellow HF alumn Adam Dauskas), has just won a gold medal with the USA team at the Maccabi games down in Brazil.  They bested Canada in the championship game after beating Israel in the semis. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Yet another reason we should either go back to CCI or go to CCIIIIIIIW!  CCIW gives a 'Neville Chamberlain' appeasement gift to Carthage!

Astute readers may surmise that I am currently engrossed in yet another history of WWII.

Any recommendations?  I like history books for the drive to and from work.

What I'm currently reading is not truly a WWII book, though obviously it is prominently featured.  It is Conrad Black's masterful biography of FDR.  I highly recommend it, but at 1134 very dense pages, I'm not sure you'd be able to find it on tape!  (I'd guess it would take at least 500 hours to read it aloud. )  I'm a very fast reader (often finishing books in a day or two), but have just reached the midpoint of the book after several hours a day for the last two weeks!

[Gregory Sager]

I've heard good things about that particular FDR biography.