MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Gregory Sager]

Wow, a three-second difference out of a twenty-minute half. Please excuse me for rounding off. To paraphrase Pete Townshend, I've just handed my persnickety crown to him.

Yeah, you put in plenty of extra detail that I didn't include. That's fine. You're the NCC fan around here, and the unwritten rule on CCIW Chat is that a fan from one of the two teams playing gets to put in all the details (individual scoring totals, shooting percentages, play-by-play stuff, etc.) that he wants. That's why I just included the final score and a couple of bare-bones facts regarding some pretty unusual goings-on in that game. It's not often that it takes a team ten minutes nine minutes and fifty-seven seconds before it gets off the schneid for a half. And the fact that NCC doubled up on MU, in spite of it being a very close game with a minute to go in the first half, was also so bizarre that I felt that I had to mention it when giving the final score. That aside, I left you lots of room to fill in the rest of the game detail, which you did, and which is as it should be.

My bafflement rests in the fact that you felt the need to quote my post. I mean, admit it, Mark: It just looks very weird when I say, "From the Griz, North Central 74, Millikin 37", and you quote my post and repeat right below it, "From Decatur, North Central 74, Millikin 37".

* I can understand that the combination of the way your beloved Chicago Vikings are currently playing, plus the fact that you are obviously home tonight as opposed to being out enjoying a usual night of debauchery in the Big City, have you in a foul mood. 

Just can't leave well enough alone, eh, Mark? My mood is quite fine, thankyouverymuch. I've long since made my peace with the fact that the Vikings are terrible this season. You'll see that for yourself on Tuesday night, when your Cardinals will cruise to a 20+ victory over NPU and I'll walk out of the airplane hangar without rending my garments and donning sackcloth and ashes. I'm also well past the point where I let losses affect me hours later, even when it's Wheaton that puts the wood to NPU. In fact, seeing Wheaton spend some of its men's basketball budget by putting some coin in the coffers of one of NPU's primary basketball sponsors for its postgame meal almost got me to the point where I had warm feelings towards the Sonic Atmospheric Disturbance. But perhaps that was just the hot peppers on my Italian beef sandwich talking.

* If my post contributed in any way to your malaise, why don't you just delete it if that will help? You have the power do you not? 

I don't do that sort of thing, Mark, and I never have. I do not abuse my privileges as a HOFer. You should be well aware of that by now.

[augie_superfan]

* You made no mention of the actual number of points in the NCC run to begin the 2nd half.

Details, details...

Halftime score:  NCC 31 - MU 23
Score @ 10:18 left:  NCC 57 - MU 23

Next play: Millikin FT to make it 57-24

Looks like a 26-0 run instead of a 33-0 run to start the second half.  Sorry, if you are gonna pick apart another poster for lack of details, you better get yours right 

[Titan Q]

Here is the IWU @ EC box score and the Pantagraph article...

http://www.iwusports.com/custompages/MBB/MBB2012/HTML/iwumbb17.htm

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/men/iwu-men-rip-elmhurst/article_54ae19b2-44b4-11e1-9ef6-0019bb2963f4.html

For IWU...

* Jordan Zimmer: 18 pts (4-5 3-point)
* Parker Musselman: 13 pts, 5 reb (12 minutes)
* Andrew Ziemnik: 13 pts, 3 reb, 2 assists
* Victor Davis: 12 pts (5-8 FG)
* Eliud Gonzalez: 6 pts, 4 reb, 9 assists


The Titans looked awful for the first 11 minutes of the game, and trailed 17-8 at 9:07.  But IWU finished the half on a 26-6 run, to take a 34-23 lead at the break, and then opened the 2nd on a 17-7 run to open up a 21-point lead at 14:45 to play in the game.  So IWU scored 8 points in the first 11 minutes of the game...and then 43 (to Elmhurst's 13) in the next 14.

The spark for IWU in the final 9 minutes of the 1st half was 6-8/245 freshman Parker Musselman off the bench.  Musselman scored 9 quick points as the Titans climbed back into the game.  He is a big kid with really soft touch from the 3-point arc and the FT line.  Musselman has played 25 minutes in CCIW play...and scored 19 points, with 7 rebounds.  It looks like Ron Rose is using him only situationally right now (he's only played in two conference games - vs Augie and @ Elmhurst), but I'd be tempted to play this kid big minutes and live with the ups and downs.  Musselman has a chance to be a really good player for the Titans down the road.  He needs to "turn 20 pounds to muscle" (I'm trying to figure out if one can do that at 40 years old?) and get in a little better shape, but I'm excited about Parker Musselman's future.

I thought IWU's defense was another big key tonight.  Again, the Titans only managed to scored 8 points in the first 11 minutes of the game...but only trailed by 9 at that point.  IWU held Elmhurst to 38% shooting tonight (19-50).  IWU's defense kept them in the game while the offense figured things out.

IWU got 69 points tonight (out of 77) from frontcourt players, and 33 points from frosh/sophs.

This was a pretty solid road win for the Titans.  This year at R.A. Faganel Hall, EC lost on a buzzer beat to Wash U, played Wheaton tough for 35 minutes, and beat Augie. 

IWU hosts the powerhouse Big Blue Tuesday.

[Titan Q]

Updated Standings (through 1/21)

Illinois Wesleyan: 5-1
Wheaton: 5-1
North Central: 5-1
Augustana: 3-3
Elmhurst: 3-3
Carthage: 2-4
North Park: 1-5
Millikin: 0-6

+/- standings (through 1/21)
(+1 for road wins, -1 for home losses)

Illinois Wesleyan: +2
North Central: +2
Wheaton: +2
Augustana: +0
Carthage: +0
Elmhurst: -1
North Park: -2
Millikin: -3


The 5-1 team with the schedule advantage right now is North Central.  NCC has already played @ Augustana and @ Wheaton...IWU still has to go to Augie and Wheaton...Wheaton still has to go to NCC and Augie.  (Imagine if NCC had closed out that game at Wheaton!)

Augie is still very much in the mix for the title as I see it.

I seems NCC, IWU, Wheaton, and Augustana are our 4 conference tournament teams...just a matter of order.

[AndOne]

* You made no mention of the actual number of points in the NCC run to begin the 2nd half.

Details, details...

Halftime score:  NCC 31 - MU 23
Score @ 10:18 left:  NCC 57 - MU 23

Next play: Millikin FT to make it 57-24

Looks like a 26-0 run instead of a 33-0 run to start the second half.  Sorry, if you are gonna pick apart another poster for lack of details, you better get yours right 

True augie_superfan, true. I was watching the game on the computer, and just typed what the announcers said rather than checking the stats. I figured they should know. That'll teach me. 

[AndOne]

Here is the IWU @ EC box score and the Pantagraph article...

http://www.iwusports.com/custompages/MBB/MBB2012/HTML/iwumbb17.htm

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/men/iwu-men-rip-elmhurst/article_54ae19b2-44b4-11e1-9ef6-0019bb2963f4.html

For IWU...

* Jordan Zimmer: 18 pts (4-5 3-point)
* Parker Musselman: 13 pts, 5 reb (12 minutes)
* Andrew Ziemnik: 13 pts, 3 reb, 2 assists
* Victor Davis: 12 pts (5-8 FG)
* Eliud Gonzalez: 6 pts, 4 reb, 9 assists


The Titans looked awful for the first 11 minutes of the game, and trailed 17-8 at 9:07.  But IWU finished the half on a 26-6 run, to take a 34-23 lead at the break, and then opened the 2nd on a 17-7 run to open up a 21-point lead at 14:45 to play in the game.  So IWU scored 8 points in the first 11 minutes of the game...and then 43 (to Elmhurst's 13) in the next 14.

The spark for IWU in the final 9 minutes of the 1st half was 6-8/245 freshman Parker Musselman off the bench.  Musselman scored 9 quick points as the Titans climbed back into the game.  He is a big kid with really soft touch from the 3-point arc and the FT line.  Musselman has played 25 minutes in CCIW play...and scored 19 points, with 7 rebounds.  It looks like Ron Rose is using him only situationally right now (he's only played in two conference games - vs Augie and @ Elmhurst), but I'd be tempted to play this kid big minutes and live with the ups and downs.  Musselman has a chance to be a really good player for the Titans down the road.  He needs to "turn 20 pounds to muscle" (I'm trying to figure out if one can do that at 40 years old?) and get in a little better shape, but I'm excited about Parker Musselman's future.

Very understandable. When Wesleyan visited North Central recently, during pre-game warmups I noticed a player I was not familiar with who looked like someone the Titans had brought in from the football team. The guy was not only huge, but pretty mobile as well. As I continued to watch him as the warmups continued, I was very impressed by the soft touch he displayed on some baby hooks. When I inquired as to who it was, some IWU fans advised me it was Mr. Musselman. Looks like a more in shape freshman version of former IWU player Ryan Connolly.

[Titan Q]

Video for a big UAA game getting ready to tip.  3-1 New York U @ 4-0 Wash U...

http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/wustl.portal#


This should be the game that finally puts Wash U back in the Top 25.

[TitansIWU]

Wow, a three-second difference out of a twenty-minute half. Please excuse me for rounding off. To paraphrase Pete Townshend, I've just handed my persnickety crown to him.

Ahhh, the Persnickety Wizard is one of my favorite songs. 

[Titan Q]

My updated Midwest Region ranking projection through games of Sunday, January 15...

- In-region record listed
- Includes "in-region" wins over teams I project would be ranked in Midwest (below) or other regions (example, UW-Stevens Point in West)
- Also includes all losses 

1. Transylvania (HCAC), 12-1 (won vs Wabash, vs Hanover, vs Rose-Hulman...lost @ Defiance)
2. Illinois Wesleyan (CCIW), 11-2 (won vs Wash U, vs Wheaton, vs Augustana...lost @ Ripon, @ UW-Whitewater)
3. Washington U (UAA), 11-2 (won vs Augustana, vs Wheaton...lost @ Whitworth, @ IWU)
4. Lake Forest (MWC), 11-1 (won @ Ripon...lost @ Edgewood)
5. Grinnell (MWC), 10-1 (won vs Ripon...lost @ Carroll)
6. Wheaton (CCIW), 10-3 (none...lost @ Hope, @ Wash U, @ IWU)
7. Hanover (HCAC), 10-3 (won vs Ohio Wesleyan, vs Rose-Hulman...lost vs Ohio Northern, @ Manchester, @ Transylvania)
8. Rose-Hulman (HCAC), 12-3 (none...lost vs Wabash, @ Hanover, @ Transylvavia)
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9. Augustana (CCIW), 10-4 (won vs UW-Stevens Point ...lost @ Wash U, vs North Central, @ IWU, @ Elmhurst)
10. Edgewood (NATHC), 10-3 (won vs Lake Forest...lost vs UW-Stevens Point, @ UW-Whitewater, @ MSOE)
11. Ripon (MWC), 6-3 (won vs Illinois Wesleyan...lost @ Grinnell, @ St. Norbert, vs Lake Forest)

My updated Midwest Region ranking projection through games of Sunday, January 22 (Wash U lost today at home to NYU)...

- In-region record listed
- Includes "in-region" wins over teams I project would be ranked in Midwest (below) or other regions (example, UW-Stevens Point in West)
- Also includes all losses 

1. Transylvania (HCAC), 14-1 (won vs Wabash, vs Hanover, vs Rose-Hulman...lost @ Defiance)
2. Lake Forest (MWC), 13-1 (none...lost @ Edgewood)
3. Grinnell (MWC), 12-1 (none...lost @ Carroll)
4. Illinois Wesleyan (CCIW), 12-3 (won vs Wash U, vs Wheaton, vs Augustana...lost @ Ripon, @ UW-Whitewater, @ NCC)
5. Washington U (UAA), 12-3 (won vs Augustana, vs Wheaton...lost @ Whitworth, @ IWU, vs NYU)
6. Wheaton (CCIW), 12-3 (none...lost @ Hope, @ Wash U, @ IWU)
7. Hanover (HCAC), 12-3 (won vs Ohio Wesleyan, vs Rose-Hulman...lost vs Ohio Northern, @ Manchester, @ Transylvania)
8. Edgewood (NATHC), 12-3 (won vs Lake Forest...lost vs UW-Stevens Point, @ UW-Whitewater, @ MSOE)
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9. Augustana (CCIW), 12-4 (won vs UW-Stevens Point ...lost @ Wash U, vs North Central, @ IWU, @ Elmhurst)
10. Rose-Hulman (HCAC), 13-4 (none...lost vs Wabash, @ Hanover, @ Transylvania, @ Bluffton)
11. North Central (CCIW), 10-4 (won @ Augustana, vs IWU...lost @ Aurora, @ Simpson, @ UW-P, @ Wheaton)

[Gregory Sager]

Last night I simultaneously had on the video feed for two games, CC @ AC and IWU @ EC. Neither game was very competitive, but when one would start to look more interesting I'd turn the sound up on it and turn the sound down on the other game, and so I went back and forth between the two games in terms of audio. Several people have mentioned before on CCIW Chat what a great job Dan and Chris do on the Augie broadcasts, and I want to second that. I also want to mention what a great job I think Tim Calderwood does on Elmhurst broadcasts. (He does Benedictine's as well.) Tim's a real pro, and it's a pleasure to listen to games he's doing. Listening to him, and to Chris and Dan, last night on the heels of doing my own game earlier that day makes me realize how far I have yet to go as a broadcaster.

[Titan Q]

Last night I simultaneously had on the video feed for two games, CC @ AC and IWU @ EC. Neither game was very competitive, but when one would start to look more interesting I'd turn the sound up on it and turn the sound down on the other game, and so I went back and forth between the two games in terms of audio. Several people have mentioned before on CCIW Chat what a great job Dan and Chris do on the Augie broadcasts, and I want to second that. I also want to mention what a great job I think Tim Calderwood does on Elmhurst broadcasts. (He does Benedictine's as well.) Tim's a real pro, and it's a pleasure to listen to games he's doing. Listening to him, and to Chris and Dan, last night on the heels of doing my own game earlier that day makes me realize how far I have yet to go as a broadcaster.

Tim does an outstanding job.  As someone posted last night, however, Elmhurst has an audio issue to resolve.  For some reason the Bluejay TV audio is about a minute behind the video...but the weird thing is that very, very faintly in the background you can hear the synched up audio.  Every time I have watched an Elmhurst game this season on Bluejay TV I have run into this same issue.

What is also strange is that if you watch on an iPad, this problem does not exist.  I had both the women's and men's games up on my MacBook Pro for various stretches but kept running into that annoying audio issue.  I ended up watching the majority of both games on my wife's iPad because I found the audio and video were in sync.

Now let me stress, this Nebraska resident sincerely appreciates any school that is providing live video streaming.  The Elmhurst audio problem is a small one in the big picture.  The production quality overall is very good - love having the scoreboard on the screen at all times, and love how they cut to Tim Calderwood during breaks.  Being able to watch so many CCIW games now courtesy of all of this video streaming is really amazing.

[Gregory Sager]

I didn't have any trouble with the Elmhurst broadcast last night. The audio and video were synched up perfectly on the computer I was using here in Chicago.

[TitansIWU]

I was using the a Macbook Pro also and I got the faint synched version sound too. I almost switched to my ipad, but I didn't.

I also noticed, I could not mute the broadcast. Ideally, I wanted to listen to WJBC and watch the Elmhurst broadcast, but I couldn't mute. 

I appreciate all video too, I brought it up last night, just as a note so that maybe if anyone is reading my post, they might realize that all of their efforts (and I realize they are considerable) might just need a little better technology or upgrading in order to really make the broadcast great.

Sometimes I am sure a broadcaster would like to know if there are issues, as they surely can't know exactly what is coming across in the homes of those listening.

[TitansIWU]

I didn't have any trouble with the Elmhurst broadcast last night. The audio and video were synched up perfectly on the computer I was using here in Chicago.

Now after seeing this, I am wondering if it is a MacOs problem not found in the Ipad operating system.

[Titan Q]

When Wesleyan visited North Central recently, during pre-game warmups I noticed a player I was not familiar with who looked like someone the Titans had brought in from the football team.

Coincidentally, Musselman's brother is a member of IWU's football team...

http://www.iwusports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=1995&path=football

Looks like a more in shape freshman version of former IWU player Ryan Connolly.

Being big is probably the only similarity.  Connolly, of course, was a pure back-to-the-basket guy who rarely took a jumpshot. Parker Musselman seems more comfortable facing the basket, and has really nice touch all the way out past the arc.  Two big boys, but very different basketball players.