MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Dennis_Prikkel]

Jordan Zimmer has moved into IWU's top 5 list in 3-point FG made...

1. 252 - Keelan Amelianovich (104 games) - 2002-06
2. 245 - Korey Coon (109 games) - 1996-00
3. 238 - Sean Johnson (111 games) - 2007-11
4. 235 - Mark Edmundson (113 games) - 1986-90
5. 233 - Jordan Zimmer (98 games) - 2008-12


In a program that has had some great pure shooters, Zimmer is right in the middle of discussion of the best.

Looking at that list, the really impressive thing about that Keelan Amelianovich total is that he was purely a JV player his freshman year at IWU - he only made 6 3-pointers in 2002-03.  Keelan shot an amazing .476 from beyond the arc in his career.

Good to see the pride of Arthur, Illinois - Mark Edmundson - hanging strong in the top 5.  Watching Eddy, Jeff Kuehl and the rest of the 1989-90 cast play is what got me hooked on IWU basketball my freshman year.

While a four-year player, Edmundson did not have the three-point shot as a freshman.

[Dennis_Prikkel]

By the way, since I am rusty at this, I assume Wheaton's regional ranking doesn't include their loss to Carthage from the night before?

Yeah, they're through Sunday's games. And I had successfully banished Gulbranson insurance from my head!

Ned Gulbranson = still holds the record for sharpest elbows in CCIW history.  Still see him occasionally at Wheaton.

[iwu70]

Looks like Wash U is staying in front of the UAA, at least so far. 

IWU70

[Gregory Sager]

Jordan Zimmer has moved into IWU's top 5 list in 3-point FG made...

1. 252 - Keelan Amelianovich (104 games) - 2002-06
2. 245 - Korey Coon (109 games) - 1996-00
3. 238 - Sean Johnson (111 games) - 2007-11
4. 235 - Mark Edmundson (113 games) - 1986-90
5. 233 - Jordan Zimmer (98 games) - 2008-12


In a program that has had some great pure shooters, Zimmer is right in the middle of discussion of the best.

Looking at that list, the really impressive thing about that Keelan Amelianovich total is that he was purely a JV player his freshman year at IWU - he only made 6 3-pointers in 2002-03.  Keelan shot an amazing .476 from beyond the arc in his career.

Good to see the pride of Arthur, Illinois - Mark Edmundson - hanging strong in the top 5.  Watching Eddy, Jeff Kuehl and the rest of the 1989-90 cast play is what got me hooked on IWU basketball my freshman year.

While a four-year player, Edmundson did not have the three-point shot as a freshman.

Yes, he did, Dennis. The three-point shot was instituted by the NCAA for the 1986-87 season. Or have you forgotten Henrik "the Swedish Air Force" Gaddefors and the five treys he hit in the second half to propel North Park to that big come-from-behind 75-70 win over Wittenberg in the 1987 national semifinal?

As for Edmundson, IIRC, he played his freshman year at Kentucky Wesleyan, so it doesn't matter, anyway.

(Yeah, I know that you simply meant "my guy" in the sense that he's the guy whom I first identified. But, still ... the whole thought of me adopting a Wheatie as some sort of [shudder] favorite student fan or something gives me a serious case of the squicks.

Don't lie, once upon a time in a galaxy far far away your fav student fan was totally me. 

We never thought of you as a student, April. We thought of you more as a charming demographic anomaly.

On a more serious note, I am surprised that it is legal to wear a basketball hoop into a basketball game.

He wasn't wearing it; he was holding it. I can't imagine that there would be many things more uncomfortable than to wear a basketball rim and net like a necklace.

Free fact: Though I have been to dozens and dozens of DIII basketball arenas and football stadiums a llll over the US (most of them multiple times), I have never once been to Millikin. At this point it will probably never happen.

As MB said, you're not missing much. The Griz has no ambience whatsoever, even when the Big Blue are good. Any sort of noise is completely swallowed up by the excessively large size of the gym, and the giant curtain behind the benches that cuts the building in half just screams, "We blew it by making this place too big." Plus, as MB pointed out, the long drive down there is mind-numbing.

Millikin's football field, Lindsay Field, is a lot more interesting than the Griz. It's the only grass field left in the CCIW (although that will soon change), and it's very steeply pitched for drainage purposes, so that when you're running to the sidelines you're also running sharply downhill. When I broadcast the NPU @ MU game last fall, I had a hard time distinguishing when a runner went out of bounds on the far sidelines, because I couldn't see his legs from the press box. Honestly, football there is like one big game of "King of the Hill". Very weird, very unique, very interesting place to see a football game.

[Titan Q]

Yes, he did, Dennis. The three-point shot was instituted by the NCAA for the 1986-87 season. Or have you forgotten Henrik "the Swedish Air Force" Gaddefors and the five treys he hit in the second half to propel North Park to that big come-from-behind 75-70 win over Wittenberg in the 1987 national semifinal?

As for Edmundson, IIRC, he played his freshman year at Kentucky Wesleyan, so it doesn't matter, anyway.

Eddy was a 4-year IWU player.  Stats archive...

http://www.iwusports.com/custompages/MBB/MENCAREER_ALL.pdf

[Gregory Sager]

Hmm. I seem to remember IWU picking up a transfer from KWC at some point during that era.

Oh, well, I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.

[John Gleich]

On a more serious note, I am surprised that it is legal to wear a basketball hoop into a basketball game.

He wasn't wearing it; he was holding it. I can't imagine that there would be many things more uncomfortable than to wear a basketball rim and net like a necklace.
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And yet, wearing JUST the net as a necklace is something that almost any player would willingly do (at least in most cases I can think of where it would be an appropriate accessory...)

[Titan Q]

As MB said, you're not missing much. The Griz has no ambience whatsoever, even when the Big Blue are good. Any sort of noise is completely swallowed up by the excessively large size of the gym, and the giant curtain behind the benches that cuts the building in half just screams, "We blew it by making this place too big." Plus, as MB pointed out, the long drive down there is mind-numbing.

IWU fans are probably the only CCIW followers to see the a loud, electric Griswold Center in the last 10-12 years.  Millikin was using both sides of the bleachers for the IWU game each year until about 2-3 years ago I think.

For example, I remember the 2000 game - final game of the season - which IWU lost in 2 OT.  The attendance was listed at 3100...

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/menbb00.html

The next year, 2000-01 season, they listed the crowd as 2600 as the Kasten/Wente Titans faced Brad Skowronski and the Big Blue...


http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/mbb2001/022401m.htm

IWU snuck by Millikin in 2002-03 with 1500 in the building...

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/mbb2002/miwu16.htm


In 2005 there were 1500...

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/mbb2005/miwu15.htm


As recently as about the 2004-05 season, the game @ Millikin every year was always one of the conference games I used to worry about most.  It was loud in there and very hostile.  Tremendous atmosphere.

[Dennis_Prikkel]

griswold - with the old metal ceiling - was the loudest CCIW gym I was ever in.

dgp

[Gregory Sager]

I don't recall the Griz being worthy of adjectives such as "electric" back in the day when both North Park and Millikin were good teams in the '80s and MU had both sides of the gym opened up for seating. But, then again, rivalries do add to the energy and the decibel level of any building.

[Gregory Sager]

Final from the aforementioned Griz:

North Park 62
Millikin 49

Mike Gabriel: 19 pts, 6 rebs
Mark Holmes: 19 pts
Emanuel Crosby: 8 pts, 9 rebs

Matt Merrigan: 13 pts
Kelvin Jacobs: 10 pts, 11 rebs

It wasn't as close as the final score made it appear. With just under four minutes left and the Vikings up by 22, Dylan Howard emptied his bench -- and the NPU scrubs promptly got their butts handed to them as Millikin suddenly started raining threes. Still, the game was well out of reach long before that, so it really didn't matter.

Not a pretty game for NPU. The assists-to-turnovers ratio was horrible for the Vikings -- 8:15 -- and they only shot 3-for-14 from downtown. But the inside combo of Gabriel and Crosby was far too much for the undersized Big Blue to handle, and both Gabriel and Mark Holmes did a nice job of getting to the line and hitting their FTs; they were a combined 12-14 from the charity stripe.

Given that this was Millikin's Super Bowl and the Big Blue had only lost by two in Chicago last month, added to the fact that NPU is having a lousy year, the Vikings coaching staff was understandably nervous coming into this contest. But, even though the Vikings did not play well at all, this game stopped being competitive well before halftime. The gap between the seventh-place Vikings and the eighth-place Big Blue is immense. Miilikin's just in a league all by itself; it's a junior varsity team forced to take on a varsity role. My heart goes out to Matt Nadelhoffer, who's had one heck of a character-building kinda year.

[thunder38]

Tournament feel in the Hangar tonight.  Unbelievable intensity.  Wheaton up 6 with 7:19 left.  Derek Raridon just got his first two points.  Gamble with 16.

[Gregory Sager]

Wheaton 64
North Central 61

Wheaton's Hangar Hex has finally ended.

[Gregory Sager]

Augustana 71
Elmhurst 61

Augie pulled away down the stretch in what had been a very close game for the first 32 minutes or so. Bryant Voiles (20 and 13) finally showed up big for Augie.

[Gregory Sager]

Illinois Wesleyan 69
Carthage 64

With Bosko's Boys down by 16 with seven and a half minutes to go, a furious Carthage rally got the Titans lead down to two with under a minute to go -- and then the Red Men promptly gave away a cherry-picker basket off of an inbounds that was eerily like the Tiknis cherry-picker that doomed Wesleyan the other night.

Wesleyan's in the tourney. Augie is as well, because Carthage got swept by Wesleyan while Augie split with the Titans.