MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Gregory Sager]

I know it's early, but anyone have any insight into how NCC matches up with RH? I have a couple of friends who went to RH and would love nothing more than to give them the business after the game.

I don't really know anything about the Engineers' personnel, but I can pass along how they and the Cards have done against common opponents:

Millikin lost to RHIT by 21, lost to NCC by 37 and 33
Manchester lost to RHIT by 30 and by 3, lost to NCC by 24

[CCIW ALUM]

NCC lost to St. Norbert's in the first round of the 1984 NCAA D 3 tournament, the next night in the consolation game, NCC won at UW Whitewater vs Illinois Wesleyan, 1985 NCC lost to UW Whitewater in the First Round and Lost in a Consolation game to Monmouth.  In 1989 NCC beat Millikin in the first round before losing in the Regional Final to UW Whitewater. In 1990 NCC lost to Illinois Wesleyan for the right to go to the sweet sixteen.

[Naperick]

Congrats to the 3 CCIW teams who earned a bid to the D3 NCAA tourney!
Good luck to each of them!

[Naperick]

Great atmosphere Saturday night at Merner fieldhouse!  I thought the roof was going to pop off after a few of those Cardinal threes in the 2nd half.  The student sections were awesome!

Man, it was hot!

[NCF]

What does anyone think the odds are for an NCC/Wheaton rematch down the road? Pat seems to think it is possible.

It is possible since both are on opposite ends of the bracket. That's all that's saying.

Should have phrased that differently-didn't say you picked them-only that if things worked out right (for NCC and Wheaton) they could meet again. I don't bet since I always lose:(

[thunder38]

If I was an oddsmaker, I'd set it at about 100-1.

So you're sayin' there's a chance!!

[Dennis_Prikkel]

NCC lost to St. Norbert's in the first round of the 1984 NCAA D 3 tournament, the next night in the consolation game, NCC won at UW Whitewater vs Illinois Wesleyan, 1985 NCC lost to UW Whitewater in the First Round and Lost in a Consolation game to Monmouth.  In 1989 NCC beat Millikin in the first round before losing in the Regional Final to UW Whitewater. In 1990 NCC lost to Illinois Wesleyan for the right to go to the sweet sixteen.

brain fart - thanks for the correction

[NCF]

If I was an oddsmaker, I'd set it at about 100-1.

So you're sayin' there's a chance!!

Yeah- a snowballs chance.....:)LOL

[diehardfan]

Congrats to IWU for getting in! I guess we don't need to argue about whether we should get rid of the conference tournament anymore, hahaha... (this board seriously needs an angel face)

I don't agree with the logic that NCC shouldn't host due to their gym, and it goes back to the whole argument that Lawrence, in its heyday, shouldn't host because the gym was sooo small. It's super anti in the spirit of D3. Just like it would be unfair if Wheaton got to host because their gym was nicer and they were lower ranked. But I didn't think that either CCIW school would get it based on merit. Now if Wheaton had taken care of Carthage, and hosted the conference tourney, and won, and.... yeah...

BTW, The best part of the whole bracket is that VA Wesleyan is the top seed in Wheaton's Bracket, and that just happens to be 3 hours from my house. Win two games! You can do it!!

[Gregory Sager]

Congrats to IWU for getting in! I guess we don't need to argue about whether we should get rid of the conference tournament anymore, hahaha... (this board seriously needs an angel face)

I don't agree with the logic that NCC shouldn't host due to their gym, and it goes back to the whole argument that Lawrence, in its heyday, shouldn't host because the gym was sooo small. It's super anti in the spirit of D3. Just like it would be unfair if Wheaton got to host because their gym was nicer and they were lower ranked. But I didn't think that either CCIW school would get it based on merit. Now if Wheaton had taken care of Carthage, and hosted the conference tourney, and won, and.... yeah...

BTW, The best part of the whole bracket is that VA Wesleyan is the top seed in Wheaton's Bracket, and that just happens to be 3 hours from my house. Win two games! You can do it!!

Speaking of Lawrence and tiny Alexander Gym, you might want to note that VWC's Batten Center only seats 1,100 fans. That means that, as was the case when Lawrence hosted a sectional, you'd probably have to buy two tickets for the sectional semis if VWC hosted, since a gym that small would probably be forced to hold a split session.

(Apropos of nothing, I love the Batten Center's nickname: The Fish Tank.)

[sac]

Not to burst April's hopeful Sweet 16 viewing bubble, but I see that bracket being hosted in the Midwest which would require probably 2 flights and one bus ride......vs 3 plane rides to Va Wesleyan.

Root for Claremont.....if they advance that bracket could require 3 flights, then Va W has something going.

[Titan Q]

Illinois Wesleyan (19-7, 10-4 CCIW) vs UW-Stevens Point (20-7, 12-4 WIAC)...


PG
(UWSP) Tyler Tillema, 6-3/175 Jr - 17.3 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 4.5 apg (missed last 3 games with thumb injury - "day-to-day")
(IWU) Eliud Gonzalez, 5-9/170 Sr - 6.5 ppg, 3.6 ppg, 5.3 apg

SG
(IWU) Jordan Zimmer, 6-5/190 Sr - 15.5 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 0.9 apg (87-210 3-point, .414)
(UWSP) Jordan Giordana, 5-10/180 Jr - 8.7 ppg, 1.7 ppg, 0.8 apg (53-116 3-point, .457)

G/F
(UWSP) Dan Tillema, 6-4/195 Sr - 16.6 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 2.3 apg (55-137 3-point, .401)
(IWU) John Koschnitzky, 6-6/205 Sr - 8.7 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.3 apg

F
(IWU) Victor Davis, 6-5/225 So - 10.4 ppg, 5.0 rpg (103-201 FG, .512)
(UWSP) Trevor Hass, 6-4 190 So - 9.1 ppg, 3.6 rpg (44-112 3-point, .393)

F/C
(UWSP) Jordan Brezinski, 6-8/240 SR - 11.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg (124-230 FG, .539)
(IWU) Kevin Reed, 6-7/225 JR - 9.5 ppg, 6.1 rpg (108-173 FG, .624)

Bench
(UWSP) Austin Ryf (G), 6-0/185 Fr - 3.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.0 apg
(UWSP) Joe Ritchay (G/F), 6-3/210 Fr - 3.0 ppg, 1.6 rpg
(UWSP) Alex Richard (F), 6-4/210 Fr - 2.4 ppg, 1.1 rpg
(UWSP) Jason Ziemer (F), 6-4/215 So - 1.2 ppg, 0.8 rpg

(IWU) Andrew Ziemnik (F), 6-5/225 So - 7.3 ppg, 4.1 rpg
(IWU) Stephen Rudnicki (G), 6-3/173 Sr - 5.3 ppg, 2.2 apg
(IWU) Nick Anderson (C), 6-9/200 So - 4.6 ppg, 2.8 rpg
(IWU) Eric Dortch (F), 6-3/210 So - 3.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg

Team stats...

PPG
IWU 76.1
UWSP 72.1

FG%
UWSP .477
IWU .470

3-point FG %
UWSP .380
IWU .366

FT%
UWSP .781
IWU .681

A/TO
IWU 1.1
UWSP 1.0


Opp PPG
UWSP 65.1
IWU 65.7

Opp FG%
IWU .411
UWSP .419

Rebound Margin
IWU +6.2
UWSP -0.2

Opp A/TO
IWU 0.7
UWSP 1.0

[Titan Q]

The IWU/Stevens Point game will feature a Zimmer, a Ziemer, and a Ziemnik.

[thunder38]

Not to look down the road but since April is looking down the road If Wheaton came out of that bracket with Wash U, Va. Wesleyan, and Whitewater...Geographically Wheaton would be the sensible host.  That being said if, River Falls advances, it would likely be VWC or Wash U, probably Wash U because of potential flights.

[Gregory Sager]

Not to look down the road but since April is looking down the road If Wheaton came out of that bracket with Wash U, Va. Wesleyan, and Whitewater...Geographically Wheaton would be the sensible host.

Why? UWW, Wheaton, and Wash U are all within 500 miles of each other. And each has a gym that's more than adequate to host a sectional.

I don't think that anyone's ever cited "proximity to a major airport" as being part of the geographical criterion, but Wash U is located more conveniently to Lambert Airport than Wheaton is to O'Hare or Midway.

Anyway, it's a moot point. Wash U is on the other side of the bracket, in the Great Lakes-oriented section that includes the Wooster, Transy, and Hope pods.