MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Hoosier Titan]

A villain (also known in film and literature as the "bad guy", "black hat", or "heavy") is an "evil" character in a story, whether a historical narrative or, especially, a work of fiction. The villain usually is the antagonist, the character who tends to have a negative effect on other characters. A female villain is sometimes called a villainess (often to differentiate her from a male villain). Random House Unabridged Dictionary defines villain as "a cruelly malicious person who is involved in or devoted to wickedness or crime; scoundrel; or a character in a play, novel, or the like, who constitutes an important evil agency in the plot".[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Villainc.svg

I actually was thinking of the English Aston Villa Soccer Club.  They are known as either the Villans or the Villains because of their name.  According to http://www.footynicknames.co.uk/Aston_Villa_-_The_Villains,

"Known as The Villa they are always depicted as a picturesque Villain, an appropriate representation of one of the most formidable teams in the game."

I thought that would be appropriate for this year's NCC team, as they proved to be the top of the league.

[NCF]

A villain (also known in film and literature as the "bad guy", "black hat", or "heavy") is an "evil" character in a story, whether a historical narrative or, especially, a work of fiction. The villain usually is the antagonist, the character who tends to have a negative effect on other characters. A female villain is sometimes called a villainess (often to differentiate her from a male villain). Random House Unabridged Dictionary defines villain as "a cruelly malicious person who is involved in or devoted to wickedness or crime; scoundrel; or a character in a play, novel, or the like, who constitutes an important evil agency in the plot".[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Villainc.svg

I actually was thinking of the English Aston Villa Soccer Club.  They are known as either the Villans or the Villains because of their name.  According to http://www.footynicknames.co.uk/Aston_Villa_-_The_Villains,

"Known as The Villa they are always depicted as a picturesque Villain, an appropriate representation of one of the most formidable teams in the game."

I thought that would be appropriate for this year's NCC team, as they proved to be the top of the league.

Wow, that is actually kind of nice. Thanks

[TitansIWU]

A villain (also known in film and literature as the "bad guy", "black hat", or "heavy") is an "evil" character in a story, whether a historical narrative or, especially, a work of fiction. The villain usually is the antagonist, the character who tends to have a negative effect on other characters. A female villain is sometimes called a villainess (often to differentiate her from a male villain). Random House Unabridged Dictionary defines villain as "a cruelly malicious person who is involved in or devoted to wickedness or crime; scoundrel; or a character in a play, novel, or the like, who constitutes an important evil agency in the plot".[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Villainc.svg

I actually was thinking of the English Aston Villa Soccer Club.  They are known as either the Villans or the Villains because of their name.  According to http://www.footynicknames.co.uk/Aston_Villa_-_The_Villains,

"Known as The Villa they are always depicted as a picturesque Villain, an appropriate representation of one of the most formidable teams in the game."

I thought that would be appropriate for this year's NCC team, as they proved to be the top of the league.

Wow, that is actually kind of nice. Thanks

I chose scoundrels for similar " kind of nice" reasons that escape me at the moment. 

(there goes my hard earned k count)

[Hoosier Titan]

I chose scoundrels for similar " kind of nice" reasons that escape me at the moment. 

(there goes my hard earned k count)

Yes, mine took a hit too, and I was actually being complimentary.  Oh well, the only way not to lose karma is not to post anything, and what's the fun of that? 

[NCF]

A villain (also known in film and literature as the "bad guy", "black hat", or "heavy") is an "evil" character in a story, whether a historical narrative or, especially, a work of fiction. The villain usually is the antagonist, the character who tends to have a negative effect on other characters. A female villain is sometimes called a villainess (often to differentiate her from a male villain). Random House Unabridged Dictionary defines villain as "a cruelly malicious person who is involved in or devoted to wickedness or crime; scoundrel; or a character in a play, novel, or the like, who constitutes an important evil agency in the plot".[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Villainc.svg

I actually was thinking of the English Aston Villa Soccer Club.  They are known as either the Villans or the Villains because of their name.  According to http://www.footynicknames.co.uk/Aston_Villa_-_The_Villains,

"Known as The Villa they are always depicted as a picturesque Villain, an appropriate representation of one of the most formidable teams in the game."

I thought that would be appropriate for this year's NCC team, as they proved to be the top of the league.

Wow, that is actually kind of nice. Thanks

I chose scoundrels for similar " kind of nice" reasons that escape me at the moment. 

(there goes my hard earned k count)

Mine took a hit as well 2day. So hard tobuild up-so easy to tumble dowm.

[Titan Q]

I think I read in an earlier post (either here or the NCAC board) that the NCAC has been mostly dominated by Woo and Witt. up until recently.

Wittenberg and Wooster are the only schools to have won the NCAC regular season championship since 1993-94 - Wooster has won 12 times and Wittenberg 7 over those 19 seasons.  Wittenberg and Wooster are elite NCAA Division III programs - again, these are the top two programs in all-time D3 wins (with IWU 3rd).  But the NCAC has tradionally been an extremely top-heavy league. 

Contrast with the CCIW where over the last 8 seasons, 5 different teams have won an outright conference championship (NCC, Augie, Carthage, Wheaton, IWU).  And those same 5 programs have all appeared in a Sweet 16 in the last 3 seasons. 

Note, 2011-12 was different in the NCAC however...

Wittenberg: 14-2 (23-6)
Wooster: 12-4 (26-4)
Ohio Wesleyan: 11-5 (20-8)
Wabash: 10-6 (18-8)
Denison: 9-7 (14-14)
Hiram: 7-9 (14-12)
DePauw: 7-9 (13-13)
Kenyon: 5-11 (11-15)
Allegheny: 3-13 (5-20)
Oberlin: 2-14 (7-18)

In addition to the 3 NCAA tournament teams, Wabash was a good team in '11-12, beating both Wittenberg and Wooster.  And Denison beat Wittenberg in the NCAC conference tournament semifinal game, and only lost in the championship to Wooster by 2.  And, of course, the addition of DePauw (a strong D3 school in many sports, including men's basketball many times) makes the NCAC stronger.  You could easily argue that the NCAC was a push with the CCIW in 2011-12, or even that the NCAC was a little stronger because of how bad Millikin was (North Park vs Alleghehy is about a tie I guess). 

The CCIW has been a much, much stronger league than the NCAC over the years (with strength being tied to depth, of course), but the NCAC may be turning a corner.

[Titan Q]

I've been to NCAA tournament games at both Wittenberg and Wooster, and these are tough, nasty places to play.  These are also extremely well-coached basketball programs.  Steve Moore at Wooster may be the best in the D3 business.

IWU's sophomore/freshman-dominated 2003-04 team (Daukas, Amelianovich, Freeman) is the last to play @ Wooster...

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/mbb2004/Miwu28.htm

IWU scored just 53 points on 33% FG.  There were 3400 in the building that night and I think it's safe to say there will be another huge crowd waiting for the Titans Friday evening.  Should be a good crowd for the neutral court NCC/Witt game too.

[iwumichigander]

I've been to NCAA tournament games at both Wittenberg and Wooster, and these are tough, nasty places to play.  These are also extremely well-coached basketball programs.  Steve Moore at Wooster may be the best in the D3 business.

IWU's sophomore/freshman-dominated 2003-04 team (Daukas, Amelianovich, Freeman) is the last to play @ Wooster...

http://www.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/mbb2004/Miwu28.htm

There were 3400 in the building that night and I think it's safe to say there will be another huge crowd waiting for the Titans Friday evening.  Should be a good crowd for the neutral court NCC/Witt game too.

I expect a huge crowd.  Whenever Woo and Witt play each other the average draw is over 2250 or more.  I also agree with your comment about Steve Moore.  His teams always well coached up, prepared and play for 40 minutes.  Defensively, Woo will get up in your face, go after the ball and usually don't foul too much.
And Timkin (sp?) - Think - a sold out Shirk or IWU vs Hope at De Vos - packed, loud and a little warm.

[Mr. Ypsi]

It is WAY too long until Friday night, so in honor of the THREE Sweet Sixteen conference teams, and the earlier attempts to give a new nickname to the Cardinals, a contest for best joke.  Complete the following 'standard' opening line:

A Napervillain, a Wheatie, and a Green Weenie walk into a bar ...

[iwu70]

. . .  (at DIII tournament time in the bar) . . . "woof woof, where are the Doggies?"

IWU70

P.S.  You can see already my karma is in the toilet.     DP, give me some love now. 

[imderekpoe]

...Should be a good crowd for the neutral court NCC/Witt game too.

I wouldn't expect a very neutral crowd for the NCC/Witt game.  Most Wooster faithful would actively root for anybody (except maybe Wabash) to beat Witt.  Throw in the fact that Ian Franks will be making his return to Timken as part of the coaching staff for NCC and I'd expect a decidedly pro-NCC crowd.

[iwu70]

To return to something that was discussed earlier about IWU . . . their depth.  At this time of year, could be telling again, and was vs. Hope as 4 guys from Hope fouled out, two from IWU fouled out, but depth played a key part in the 2OT win, for sure.  Ron Rose has the top six bigs in the rotation (Davis, Reed, Kman, Anderson, Ziemnik, and Dortch), without losing too too much no matter who plays.  Pretty much the same with Zimmer, Gonzalez and Rudnicki -- three key perimeter players or guards.  And, to think of the luxury of having sitting on the bench:  Molinari, Oswald and Overstreet . . . all fresh and ready to play, shoot, defend, and handle the ball etc. as needed.  And, for bigs, going deeper if necessary with Musselman, Mayberger and Heyen . . . well, you see my point.  That's a very high-quality bench, even beyond the normal rotation.  Of course, Rose will stay as much as possible with the top nine rotation he's been using, though I wouldn't be too too surprised if somewhere down the line one of these pine-sitters is called upon to make a key play, make a key contribution in a close or long, fierce OT game.

Can we expect some Witt fans to stay on and cheer against Wooster!  Please?!!  Greenies always welcome folks to "join in the cheer" for our Titan band.   

Game times posted now -- 5 p.m. and 7 p.m. Eastern time.  Timken should be pretty full.  Another great venue and some key rivalries.  I'm sure our Titans would like another shot at NCC. 

IWU70

[Titan Q]

5 p.m. and 7 p.m. Eastern time. 

5:30 and 7:30

http://www.woosterathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2011-12/ncaa/sectional/index

[David Collinge]

There were 3400 in the building that night and I think it's safe to say there will be another huge crowd waiting for the Titans Friday evening.  Should be a good crowd for the neutral court NCC/Witt game too.

If Wooster and Wittenberg advance to play for a trip to Salem, the building will be sold out and then some. Not on Friday, though, unless the IWU senior citizen buses comprise a long caravan. I'd expect about 1500 at tip time for NCC/Wittenberg (Witt does not travel as well as they once did, or as well as they should), ramping up to about 3000 for the Wooster/IWU game (last year's sectional semifinal, vs. Cabrini, was reported at 3230.) Wooster goes on spring break on Friday, so the student crowd may not be as loud and raucous as it was this past weekend.

[Titan Q]

And, to think of the luxury of having sitting on the bench:  Molinari, Oswald and Overstreet . . . all fresh and ready to play, shoot, defend, and handle the ball etc. as needed.  And, for bigs, going deeper if necessary with Musselman, Mayberger and Heyen . . . well, you see my point.  That's a very high-quality bench, even beyond the normal rotation. 

None of the guys listed above are ready to play in an NCAA tournament game.  I guess Oswald could come in for 3-4 minutes and fire up 3's in a complete emergency, but his knees are just too bad still.

But Molinari, Overstreet, Musselman, Mayberger, Heyen...bright futures for each, but nowhere near capable of helping at this point.