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Gregory Sager

North Central won a foulathon over UW-Platteville tonight, 73-64.

Out in the QC, Augie put the wood to hapless Knox, 84-49.
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AO

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 09, 2012, 11:40:06 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 09, 2012, 06:17:18 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 09, 2012, 04:35:47 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on December 09, 2012, 04:28:07 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 09, 2012, 03:44:39 PM
Just to clarify Greg's schedule - Wheaton plays at Northwestern (MN), not the much closer Big Ten variety! ;)

Thanks for the clarification, Chuck.  I mean, I assumed Wheaton was playing a Big Ten team.  Glad I know now.

As you probably know, the Titan women have played Big Ten Northwestern (though perhaps only exhibition; I don't recall).  I assumed it was the d3 Northwestern, but with Wheaton and d1 Northwestern being fairly close neighbors, I really wasn't sure.

Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 09, 2012, 03:52:46 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 09, 2012, 03:44:39 PM
Just to clarify Greg's schedule - Wheaton plays at Northwestern (MN), not the much closer Big Ten variety! ;)

I left off the state denominator on purpose, Chuck. There is only one team that merits the name "Northwestern" on this site. If Wheaton was playing the school in Evanston, I would've said Northwestern (IL).

The proprietor of this site apparently disagrees with you.  The scoreboard listing has Wheaton (IL) (for obvious d3 reasons) @ Northwestern (Minn). 8-)

That's why I said "merits", Chuck. I think that Pat is wrong to label the D3 school in the Twin Cities as Northwestern (Minn.). After all, Cornell, St. John's, and Monmouth don't get the same treatment, and they each share a name with a D1 school as well.

Of that group, they are by far the last to join Division III and I felt at the time that we had to start adding them to the scoreboard that it needed to have a modifier. Similarly, we refer to the school in Baltimore as Notre Dame (Md.). In select cases, I feel there is too much confusion to leave a team without the modifier, even if it is the only one in D-III so named.
The MN or Minn. works for me.  The modifier was especially necessary when Northwestern (WI) used to play in the conference before being absorbed by Martin Luther College.

Try not to get too confused with Wheaton's opponent on Saturday, the North Central that has been truthfully shown no respect on this board.  8-)

AndOne

Headed down to the NCC "hangar" last night for what was billed on the schedule as a basketball game between the NCC Cardinals, and the UW-Platteville Pioneers. However, shortly after the action commenced, a football game broke out. A total of 51 fouls were called. This was, in part, aided and abetted by the officiating crew who alternated between no calls on body blocks, and calling a foul if a player breathed on his opponent too hard. I don't know who the refs were as their names were not listed in the box score. My understanding is that they all ref both in the CCIW, and the WIAC. Whoever they were, in all honesty, their work last night was beneath the level of officiating usually observed during a high school game.
Part of the Pioneers game plan, especially in the 2nd half, appeared to be to play as tough as possible with the Cardinals and see what they could get away with. While this turned out to be a considerable amount, this tactic, in a way, played into the Cards' hands as there are not many teams around that can match the physical nature of the onslaught the Cardinals can throw at a team. Going back to the football model, its the equivalent of a football team with a pile driving line being able to bring in subs without losing any degree of their ability to pummel the opposition. In what was truly a brutal game of basketball, the Pioneers just didn't have enough, to again use some football vernacular, "big uglies" to go toe to toe with the Cardinals. Physical and mental toughness as much as anything else, was responsible for this Cardinal win. 
The Pioneers, employed more of a motion offense, finesse game in the opening stanza, and trailed by only 3 at the half. Ron Stallion seemed to have his way with the Cardinals. He both found space for open jumpers off the pass, and created off his dribble at ease, hitting 6 of 9 shots including 2/2 on threes, for 14 points. Yet, in the 2nd half, when UWP tried to both play a more physical game, and to force the ball inside, Stallion appeared much less aggressive. He didn't move as much without the ball, and when he had it, he turned from aggressive scorer to a passer. After his 14 1st half points, he scored only 6 in the 2nd. The Cards had one steal at the half, but picked up 5 more in the 2nd half when the Pioneers tried to force it inside where, due to the constant warfare, not much was available. 18 of the Pioneers 28 fouls were committed in the 2nd half.  Chas Cross kept the visitors in the game with a strong 2nd half in which he scored 15 of his 20 points, including a highlight reel dunk worthy of the ESPN Top 10.

The Cards outshot the visitors 49% to 41.5% overall, and 40% to 33.3% on threes. Both teams shot poorly from the line, the Cards having a slight 65.6% to 60% advantage. While the Pioneers had a very good total of only 11 TOs, the Cardinals had a fantastic total of only 7 in a very rough contest. NCC was led in scoring by Derek Raridon. He totaled 13 of his 20 points in the 2nd half to counter UWP's Cross. He was supported by Vince Kmiec with 14, and Aaron Tiknis with 12. Both also scored a majority of their points in the 2nd half. Brandon Williams directed the Cards' attack, and handed out a game high 5 assists. Jack Burchett, who along with Charlie Rosenberg gave up his body for the cause, scored 7 2nd half points after having none in the 1st. A major factor in the NCC victory was the steadying influence of backup guard Pat Rourke who hit 6 of 6 FTs, all at critical times in the 2nd half, and added a steal and 2 assists, also all in the 2nd.

AndOne

NCC's Derek Raridon now stands 7th in career scoring with 1,351 points, having passed recent former Cardinal stars Anthony Simmons (1,301), and Dan Walton (1,308).
While Derek will take the points, I know he is more interested in team success and wins rather than any records of an individual nature. 

iwumichigander

Quote from: AndOne on December 12, 2012, 04:50:00 PM
Headed down to the NCC "hangar" last night for what was billed on the schedule as a basketball game between the NCC Cardinals, and the UW-Platteville Pioneers. However, shortly after the action commenced, a football game broke out. A total of 51 fouls were called. This was, in part, aided and abetted by the officiating crew who alternated between no calls on body blocks, and calling a foul if a player breathed on his opponent too hard. I don't know who the refs were as their names were not listed in the box score. My understanding is that they all ref both in the CCIW, and the WIAC. Whoever they were, in all honesty, their work last night was beneath the level of officiating usually observed during a high school game.
Part of the Pioneers game plan, especially in the 2nd half, appeared to be to play as tough as possible with the Cardinals and see what they could get away with. While this turned out to be a considerable amount, this tactic, in a way, played into the Cards' hands as there are not many teams around that can match the physical nature of the onslaught the Cardinals can throw at a team. Going back to the football model, its the equivalent of a football team with a pile driving line being able to bring in subs without losing any degree of their ability to pummel the opposition. In what was truly a brutal game of basketball, the Pioneers just didn't have enough, to again use some football vernacular, "big uglies" to go toe to toe with the Cardinals. Physical and mental toughness as much as anything else, was responsible for this Cardinal win. 
The Pioneers, employed more of a motion offense, finesse game in the opening stanza, and trailed by only 3 at the half. Ron Stallion seemed to have his way with the Cardinals. He both found space for open jumpers off the pass, and created off his dribble at ease, hitting 6 of 9 shots including 2/2 on threes, for 14 points. Yet, in the 2nd half, when UWP tried to both play a more physical game, and to force the ball inside, Stallion appeared much less aggressive. He didn't move as much without the ball, and when he had it, he turned from aggressive scorer to a passer. After his 14 1st half points, he scored only 6 in the 2nd. The Cards had one steal at the half, but picked up 5 more in the 2nd half when the Pioneers tried to force it inside where, due to the constant warfare, not much was available. 18 of the Pioneers 28 fouls were committed in the 2nd half.  Chas Cross kept the visitors in the game with a strong 2nd half in which he scored 15 of his 20 points, including a highlight reel dunk worthy of the ESPN Top 10.

The Cards outshot the visitors 49% to 41.5% overall, and 40% to 33.3% on threes. Both teams shot poorly from the line, the Cards having a slight 65.6% to 60% advantage. While the Pioneers had a very good total of only 11 TOs, the Cardinals had a fantastic total of only 7 in a very rough contest. NCC was led in scoring by Derek Raridon. He totaled 13 of his 20 points in the 2nd half to counter UWP's Cross. He was supported by Vince Kmiec with 14, and Aaron Tiknis with 12. Both also scored a majority of their points in the 2nd half. Brandon Williams directed the Cards' attack, and handed out a game high 5 assists. Jack Burchett, who along with Charlie Rosenberg gave up his body for the cause, scored 7 2nd half points after having none in the 1st. A major factor in the NCC victory was the steadying influence of backup guard Pat Rourke who hit 6 of 6 FTs, all at critical times in the 2nd half, and added a steal and 2 assists, also all in the 2nd.
Nice blow by blow write-up but who won the game and what was the final score?

cardinalpride

Quote from: iwumichigander on December 12, 2012, 05:18:35 PM
Quote from: AndOne on December 12, 2012, 04:50:00 PM
Headed down to the NCC "hangar" last night for what was billed on the schedule as a basketball game between the NCC Cardinals, and the UW-Platteville Pioneers. However, shortly after the action commenced, a football game broke out. A total of 51 fouls were called. This was, in part, aided and abetted by the officiating crew who alternated between no calls on body blocks, and calling a foul if a player breathed on his opponent too hard. I don't know who the refs were as their names were not listed in the box score. My understanding is that they all ref both in the CCIW, and the WIAC. Whoever they were, in all honesty, their work last night was beneath the level of officiating usually observed during a high school game.
Part of the Pioneers game plan, especially in the 2nd half, appeared to be to play as tough as possible with the Cardinals and see what they could get away with. While this turned out to be a considerable amount, this tactic, in a way, played into the Cards' hands as there are not many teams around that can match the physical nature of the onslaught the Cardinals can throw at a team. Going back to the football model, its the equivalent of a football team with a pile driving line being able to bring in subs without losing any degree of their ability to pummel the opposition. In what was truly a brutal game of basketball, the Pioneers just didn't have enough, to again use some football vernacular, "big uglies" to go toe to toe with the Cardinals. Physical and mental toughness as much as anything else, was responsible for this Cardinal win. 
The Pioneers, employed more of a motion offense, finesse game in the opening stanza, and trailed by only 3 at the half. Ron Stallion seemed to have his way with the Cardinals. He both found space for open jumpers off the pass, and created off his dribble at ease, hitting 6 of 9 shots including 2/2 on threes, for 14 points. Yet, in the 2nd half, when UWP tried to both play a more physical game, and to force the ball inside, Stallion appeared much less aggressive. He didn't move as much without the ball, and when he had it, he turned from aggressive scorer to a passer. After his 14 1st half points, he scored only 6 in the 2nd. The Cards had one steal at the half, but picked up 5 more in the 2nd half when the Pioneers tried to force it inside where, due to the constant warfare, not much was available. 18 of the Pioneers 28 fouls were committed in the 2nd half.  Chas Cross kept the visitors in the game with a strong 2nd half in which he scored 15 of his 20 points, including a highlight reel dunk worthy of the ESPN Top 10.

The Cards outshot the visitors 49% to 41.5% overall, and 40% to 33.3% on threes. Both teams shot poorly from the line, the Cards having a slight 65.6% to 60% advantage. While the Pioneers had a very good total of only 11 TOs, the Cardinals had a fantastic total of only 7 in a very rough contest. NCC was led in scoring by Derek Raridon. He totaled 13 of his 20 points in the 2nd half to counter UWP's Cross. He was supported by Vince Kmiec with 14, and Aaron Tiknis with 12. Both also scored a majority of their points in the 2nd half. Brandon Williams directed the Cards' attack, and handed out a game high 5 assists. Jack Burchett, who along with Charlie Rosenberg gave up his body for the cause, scored 7 2nd half points after having none in the 1st. A major factor in the NCC victory was the steadying influence of backup guard Pat Rourke who hit 6 of 6 FTs, all at critical times in the 2nd half, and added a steal and 2 assists, also all in the 2nd.
Nice blow by blow write-up but who won the game and what was the final score?
NCC won 73-64!...lol
I don't believe andone posted the outcome because Greg had already done so a couple post back...:)
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Naperick

I made it to the 2nd half of the NCC-UWP game last night.  AndOne is correct, the officiating was inconsistent.  It was frustrating to watch.  I'm sure the players were frustrated.  I'm still trying to figure out what coach Raridon did to get a technical foul.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: AndOne on December 12, 2012, 04:50:00 PMThe Pioneers, employed more of a motion offense, finesse game in the opening stanza, and trailed by only 3 at the half. Ron Stallion seemed to have his way with the Cardinals.

I pity the poor kid who plays college basketball while being burdened with a name that sounds like it belongs to a porn star. Opposing student sections must make his life miserable.

I can only imagine what the Carlson Crazies would've cooked up for him back in their heyday.
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John Gleich

Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 12, 2012, 07:43:45 PM
Quote from: AndOne on December 12, 2012, 04:50:00 PMThe Pioneers, employed more of a motion offense, finesse game in the opening stanza, and trailed by only 3 at the half. Ron Stallion seemed to have his way with the Cardinals.

I pity the poor kid who plays college basketball while being burdened with a name that sounds like it belongs to a porn star. Opposing student sections must make his life miserable.

I can only imagine what the Carlson Crazies would've cooked up for him back in their heyday.

Actually, it's Rob Stallion.  Though it's a little better, it's not a ton better...
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iwu70

According to Pgraph article today on the Titans, they are still banged up with injury concerns.  Seems Molinari and Sodemann are back practicing and "may be in uniform" this Saturday for U Chicago game.  Sadly, Mayberger is still in the walking boot and has a "pre-stress fracture" problem in his foot, which could get worse.  So he is doubtful for Saturday.  Also, Brady Zimmer took a bang on the head in practice and has a border-line concussion, so he, too, may be doubtful for Saturday.  Heyen is still out still, indefinitely, with ankle issues.  Doesn't sound too too good on the IWU perimeter.  Let's hope Dolan, Oswald and Overstreet are healthy!  And, let's hope the IWU bigs are strong and ready, esp. Reed, Anderson, Dortch, Zman and Davis.  We sure need a big breakout game from all these guys, esp. Davis.  Hope the rust comes off quickly on Saturday vs. U Chicago, 3 p.m. @Shirk.

Still a ways to go in knowing the best combination, rotation . . . and getting some offensive flow and consistency.  A strange year, so far, for the Titans. 

IWU70

Gregory Sager

Final from Terre haute:

Rose-Hulman 67
Millikin 43

Not sure why, but MU leading scorer T.J. Griffin didn't play tonight. Chase Robbins led the Big Blue with eight points.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

iwu70

#7 SP beats #2 WI-WW.  Seems a bit of "living by the three and dying by the three" for WW, as they shot 23% on 21 or so attempts. 

IWU70

Gregory Sager

Final from Faganel:

Elmhurst 76
Lawrence 65

Nick Sanford: 18 pts, 9 rebs
Taylor Baxter: 17 pts, 16 rebs
D'Ante Foster: 16 pts
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Gregory Sager

Final from King:

Wheaton 75
Cornell 61

Tyler Peters: 26 pts, 4 stls, 0 t/o
Peter Smith: 14 pts, 5 asts
Nathan Haynes: 11 pts, 16 rebs

Michael Kvam didn't play this evening. Needless to say, Wheaton didn't need him.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

iwu70

Greg, looks like EC is finding some form, at last.  Nick Sanford playing very well.

IWU70