MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Titan Q]

+/- standings through Saturday, January 19
Illinois Wesleyan +3
North Central +2
Augustana +0
Carthage +0
Millikin +0
Wheaton +0
North Park -2
Elmhurst -3

Wednesday, January 23
North Central @ Illinois Wesleyan, 7:30pm
North Park @ Carthage, 7:30pm
Elmhurst @ Wheaton, 7:30pm
Augustana @ Millikin, 7:30pm

[NCF]

Carthage 62
Wheaton 61

Marlon Senior knocked down a four-footer with four seconds left.

Tremendous effort tonight by a Pierce-less Red Men team.

Great job Carthage!

[Titan Q]

Carthage 62
Wheaton 61

Marlon Senior knocked down a four-footer with four seconds left.

Tremendous effort tonight by a Pierce-less Red Men team.

http://athletics.wheaton.edu/custompages/mbball/mbbstats/mwhe17.htm

With 6-9 Luke Johnson gone and big Tyler Pierce out with injury, Wheaton got just 10 points out of its 4/5 spots -- just the 10 by Nathan Haynes.  On the other side of the court, the Thunder gave up 31 to the Carthage 4/5 combo of Mitch Thompson and Marlon Senior (basically a 3/4 combo playing the 4/5).

As good as the Wheaton perimeter is, it's just really hard to be a great team when you don't have balance.

[Titan Q]

Two dunk-related sequences from the IWU/MU 1st half yesterday.  On Demand video...

http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/millikin.portal#


* IWU 6-9 junior Nick Anderson with a big one-handed dunk to make it 15-7 Titans and really fire up the IWU bench (55:00 mark on player)

* Millikin 6-5 freshman Elijah Kinmon has a chance for an easy layup to cut into IWU's lead.  Instead he tried a one-handed/jumping from a standstill position dunk...and is swatted by the rim.  The Titans get a basket on the other end.  4-point swing.  (1:11:00 on player)

Pic: http://herald-review.com/gallery/sports/photos-millikin-vs-illinois-wesleyan-men-s-basketball/collection_5c325c00-629c-11e2-acd2-001a4bcf887a.html#7

Take the points, kid.

[Titan Q]

Phonetic spellings of Wheaton's Tuescher I've heard so far by the Carthage broadcaster:

Toosher
Tuhsher
Tehsher
Teesher
Tysher

Millikin play-by-play guy Scott Busboom (from 101FM in Decatur) called IWU women's head coach Mia Smith "Mee-a", instead of "My-a", over and over again during the first game yesterday.

Andrew Ziemnik ("Zim-nik") was "Zeem-nik."

And for two games (women's and men's) mispronounced the named of Millikin's opponent - "Wezzleyan."

If you don't know, just check with someone before the broadcast starts.  As Art Kimball instructed me 30 minutes before air time of every game, "Q, Aunt Sally is going to be listening tonight so go find out how to pronounce little Johnny's name for us.  If we get it wrong, I'm sending her your way."  Seems to me like it's just lazy broadcasting to mispronounce names when there are all kinds of people in the gym who can tell you how to say it right.


(Oh, and Busboom called IWU junior Mike Mayberger "Mayberry" most of the 1st half, then shifted to "Newberry" in the second.)

[Gregory Sager]

Phonetic spellings of Wheaton's Tuescher I've heard so far by the Carthage broadcaster:

Toosher
Tuhsher
Tehsher
Teesher
Tysher

Millikin play-by-play guy Scott Busboom (from 101FM in Decatur) called IWU women's head coach Mia Smith "Mee-a", instead of "My-a", over and over again during the first game yesterday.

Andrew Ziemnik ("Zim-nik") was "Zeem-nik."

And for two games (women's and men's) mispronounced the named of Millikin's opponent - "Wezzleyan."

If you don't know, just check with someone before the broadcast starts.  As Art Kimball instructed me 30 minutes before air time of every game, "Q, Aunt Sally is going to be listening tonight so go find out how to pronounce little Johnny's name for us.  If we get it wrong, I'm sending her your way."  Seems to me like it's just lazy broadcasting to mispronounce names when there are all kinds of people in the gym who can tell you how to say it right.


(Oh, and Busboom called IWU junior Mike Mayberger "Mayberry" most of the 1st half, then shifted to "Newberry" in the second.)

I watched the second half of the WC @ CC game last night, and in Carthage PBP announcer John Weiser's defense he pronounced Teuscher's name correctly every time. It might've been a case of the first-half hiccups for him. Sometimes, even when you know the correct way to pronounce a player's name, it comes out wrong. F'rinstance, yesterday while calling the NCC @ NPU women's game, I inadvertently mispronounced NCC center Larynn Schumaker's name a couple of times, even though I know the right way to pronounce it. (Granted, when you're calling a Grinnell System game -- the NCC women play that style now -- you have to get the words out of your mouth at a pretty fast clip.)

I'm pretty sure that John checked the names of the Wheaton players, Bob. He always checks the names of NPU's players. He got Michael Kvam's name right every time during the second half of last night's game -- and Kvam not only has the trickiest surname in the league, he's a player with whom an opposing announcer might be unfamiliar, since he was not a significant player on last year's Wheaton team.

[mr_b]

And for two games (women's and men's) mispronounced the named of Millikin's opponent - "Wezzleyan."

Mispronouncing names is (unfortunately) commonplace, especially when someone chooses to use a less conventional version (Smythe vs. Smith) of a conventionally spelled name.  I run into this all the time in my classes when I find a student who stresses a different syllable in the name or pronounces one letter in an unexpected fashion.

The pronunciation of Wesleyan with a /z/ in place of an /s/, however, is the result of a phonological process.  The voiceless /s/ (as opposed to its voiced counterpart, /z/) is situated between two voiced phonemes, a vowel (all of which are voiced in English), and a consonant (a voiced liquid/resonant, /l/). To take this analysis a step further, how would you complete this sentence? "I had a house and bought another, so now I have two ____."  How do you pronounce the first -s-?  The point of this is that it's not surprising to hear "Wezleyan" instead of "Wesleyan," and the announcer might not even be aware of the difference.

[Titan Q]

Phonetic spellings of Wheaton's Tuescher I've heard so far by the Carthage broadcaster:

Toosher
Tuhsher
Tehsher
Teesher
Tysher

Millikin play-by-play guy Scott Busboom (from 101FM in Decatur) called IWU women's head coach Mia Smith "Mee-a", instead of "My-a", over and over again during the first game yesterday.

Andrew Ziemnik ("Zim-nik") was "Zeem-nik."

And for two games (women's and men's) mispronounced the named of Millikin's opponent - "Wezzleyan."

If you don't know, just check with someone before the broadcast starts.  As Art Kimball instructed me 30 minutes before air time of every game, "Q, Aunt Sally is going to be listening tonight so go find out how to pronounce little Johnny's name for us.  If we get it wrong, I'm sending her your way."  Seems to me like it's just lazy broadcasting to mispronounce names when there are all kinds of people in the gym who can tell you how to say it right.


(Oh, and Busboom called IWU junior Mike Mayberger "Mayberry" most of the 1st half, then shifted to "Newberry" in the second.)

I watched the second half of the WC @ CC game last night, and in Carthage PBP announcer John Weiser's defense he pronounced Teuscher's name correctly every time. It might've been a case of the first-half hiccups for him. Sometimes, even when you know the correct way to pronounce a player's name, it comes out wrong. F'rinstance, yesterday while calling the NCC @ NPU women's game, I inadvertently mispronounced NCC center Larynn Schumaker's name a couple of times, even though I know the right way to pronounce it. (Granted, when you're calling a Grinnell System game -- the NCC women play that style now -- you have to get the words out of your mouth at a pretty fast clip.)

I'm pretty sure that John checked the names of the Wheaton players, Bob. He always checks the names of NPU's players. He got Michael Kvam's name right every time during the second half of last night's game -- and Kvam not only has the trickiest surname in the league, he's a player with whom an opposing announcer might be unfamiliar, since he was not a significant player on last year's Wheaton team.

I wasn't referring to Carthage's John Weiser.  I was referring to Scott Busboom of 101FM in Decatur who did the IWU/Millikin game yesterday.

[Titan Q]

Mispronouncing names is (unfortunately) commonplace, especially when someone chooses to use a less conventional version (Smythe vs. Smith) of a conventionally spelled name.  I run into this all the time in my classes when I find a student who stresses a different syllable in the name or pronounces one letter in an unexpected fashion.

The pronunciation of Wesleyan with a /z/ in place of an /s/, however, is the result of a phonological process.  The voiceless /s/ (as opposed to its voiced counterpart, /z/) is situated between two voiced phonemes, a vowel (all of which are voiced in English), and a consonant (a voiced liquid/resonant, /l/). To take this analysis a step further, how would you complete this sentence? "I had a house and bought another, so now I have two ____."  How do you pronounce the first -s-?  The point of this is that it's not surprising to hear "Wezleyan" instead of "Wesleyan," and the announcer might not even be aware of the difference.

Sure, but there is also a way to properly pronounce the names of schools like Buena Vista, Amherst, Worcester Poly, Baruch, Wooster, and others that might look like one thing to someone but are actually pronounced another way.  Just as there is a correct way to pronounce the last name of the Augie head coach ("Giovanine") that is different than what it looks.

I think if you're a somewhat serious broadcaster (I'll give student broadcasters a free pass) you have to pronounce the name of the opponent school right.

[mwunder]

I have no idea why Tyler Pierce missed the last game, but I don't think the Red Men can compete with Wheaton if he doesn't play.  Pierce was having a nice CCIW season before missing that game.

To quote Bull Durham..."Don't think Meat"   

It's a good thing they play 'em on the court and not on paper!  Nice win last night Red Men.

[Titan Q]

I have no idea why Tyler Pierce missed the last game, but I don't think the Red Men can compete with Wheaton if he doesn't play.  Pierce was having a nice CCIW season before missing that game.

To quote Bull Durham..."Don't think Meat"   

It's a good thing they play 'em on the court and not on paper!  Nice win last night Red Men.

Hey, I also predicted Augie to beat Wheaton by 5 Wednesday in Rock Island.  I'm on a roll.

[sac]

My favorite so far is hearing the Adrian PA announcer call Hope's Colton Overway...UnderWay.  Over the garbled PA it sounded like 'underwear'

[iwumichigander]

Mispronouncing names is (unfortunately) commonplace, especially when someone chooses to use a less conventional version (Smythe vs. Smith) of a conventionally spelled name.  I run into this all the time in my classes when I find a student who stresses a different syllable in the name or pronounces one letter in an unexpected fashion.

The pronunciation of Wesleyan with a /z/ in place of an /s/, however, is the result of a phonological process.  The voiceless /s/ (as opposed to its voiced counterpart, /z/) is situated between two voiced phonemes, a vowel (all of which are voiced in English), and a consonant (a voiced liquid/resonant, /l/). To take this analysis a step further, how would you complete this sentence? "I had a house and bought another, so now I have two ____."  How do you pronounce the first -s-?  The point of this is that it's not surprising to hear "Wezleyan" instead of "Wesleyan," and the announcer might not even be aware of the difference.

Sure, but there is also a way to properly pronounce the names of schools like Buena Vista, Amherst, Worcester Poly, Baruch, Wooster, and others that might look like one thing to someone but are actually pronounced another way.  Just as there is a correct way to pronounce the last name of the Augie head coach ("Giovanine") that is different than what it looks.

I think if you're a somewhat serious broadcaster (I'll give student broadcasters a free pass) you have to pronounce the name of the opponent school right.

I'm with Q on this even though I recognize some make the mistake being unaware.  I do give props to the Decatur broadcast team making frequent mention of another Art Kimball rule - "time and score".  They did a good job of 'time and score' as the internet broadcast did not have time nor score on the screen.

[Titan Q]

Mispronouncing names is (unfortunately) commonplace, especially when someone chooses to use a less conventional version (Smythe vs. Smith) of a conventionally spelled name.  I run into this all the time in my classes when I find a student who stresses a different syllable in the name or pronounces one letter in an unexpected fashion.

The pronunciation of Wesleyan with a /z/ in place of an /s/, however, is the result of a phonological process.  The voiceless /s/ (as opposed to its voiced counterpart, /z/) is situated between two voiced phonemes, a vowel (all of which are voiced in English), and a consonant (a voiced liquid/resonant, /l/). To take this analysis a step further, how would you complete this sentence? "I had a house and bought another, so now I have two ____."  How do you pronounce the first -s-?  The point of this is that it's not surprising to hear "Wezleyan" instead of "Wesleyan," and the announcer might not even be aware of the difference.

Sure, but there is also a way to properly pronounce the names of schools like Buena Vista, Amherst, Worcester Poly, Baruch, Wooster, and others that might look like one thing to someone but are actually pronounced another way.  Just as there is a correct way to pronounce the last name of the Augie head coach ("Giovanine") that is different than what it looks.

I think if you're a somewhat serious broadcaster (I'll give student broadcasters a free pass) you have to pronounce the name of the opponent school right.

I'm with Q on this even though I recognize some make the mistake being unaware.  I do give props to the Decatur broadcast team making frequent mention of another Art Kimball rule - "time and score".  They did a good job of 'time and score' as the internet broadcast did not have time nor score on the screen.

I agree.  Outside of the pronunciation issues they did a nice job broadcasting the game.  Millikin is lucky to have that kind of support from a local radio station. 

[mr_b]

Mispronouncing names is (unfortunately) commonplace, especially when someone chooses to use a less conventional version (Smythe vs. Smith) of a conventionally spelled name.  I run into this all the time in my classes when I find a student who stresses a different syllable in the name or pronounces one letter in an unexpected fashion.

The pronunciation of Wesleyan with a /z/ in place of an /s/, however, is the result of a phonological process.  The voiceless /s/ (as opposed to its voiced counterpart, /z/) is situated between two voiced phonemes, a vowel (all of which are voiced in English), and a consonant (a voiced liquid/resonant, /l/). To take this analysis a step further, how would you complete this sentence? "I had a house and bought another, so now I have two ____."  How do you pronounce the first -s-?  The point of this is that it's not surprising to hear "Wezleyan" instead of "Wesleyan," and the announcer might not even be aware of the difference.

Sure, but there is also a way to properly pronounce the names of schools like Buena Vista, Amherst, Worcester Poly, Baruch, Wooster, and others that might look like one thing to someone but are actually pronounced another way.  Just as there is a correct way to pronounce the last name of the Augie head coach ("Giovanine") that is different than what it looks.

I think if you're a somewhat serious broadcaster (I'll give student broadcasters a free pass) you have to pronounce the name of the opponent school right.

I don't know who was doing the broadcasting, so I just offered up a potential explanation, just in case the misstep was unintentional, or that the announcers simply were unaware of how they were pronouncing it.  I agree that the announcers should get the proper pronunciation of the opponents -- school name, certainly, and participants, to the greatest extent possible.