MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Gregory Sager]

Phonetic spellings of Wheaton's Tuescher I've heard so far by the Carthage broadcaster:

Toosher
Tuhsher
Tehsher
Teesher
Tysher

Millikin play-by-play guy Scott Busboom (from 101FM in Decatur) called IWU women's head coach Mia Smith "Mee-a", instead of "My-a", over and over again during the first game yesterday.

Andrew Ziemnik ("Zim-nik") was "Zeem-nik."

And for two games (women's and men's) mispronounced the named of Millikin's opponent - "Wezzleyan."

If you don't know, just check with someone before the broadcast starts.  As Art Kimball instructed me 30 minutes before air time of every game, "Q, Aunt Sally is going to be listening tonight so go find out how to pronounce little Johnny's name for us.  If we get it wrong, I'm sending her your way."  Seems to me like it's just lazy broadcasting to mispronounce names when there are all kinds of people in the gym who can tell you how to say it right.


(Oh, and Busboom called IWU junior Mike Mayberger "Mayberry" most of the 1st half, then shifted to "Newberry" in the second.)

I watched the second half of the WC @ CC game last night, and in Carthage PBP announcer John Weiser's defense he pronounced Teuscher's name correctly every time. It might've been a case of the first-half hiccups for him. Sometimes, even when you know the correct way to pronounce a player's name, it comes out wrong. F'rinstance, yesterday while calling the NCC @ NPU women's game, I inadvertently mispronounced NCC center Larynn Schumaker's name a couple of times, even though I know the right way to pronounce it. (Granted, when you're calling a Grinnell System game -- the NCC women play that style now -- you have to get the words out of your mouth at a pretty fast clip.)

I'm pretty sure that John checked the names of the Wheaton players, Bob. He always checks the names of NPU's players. He got Michael Kvam's name right every time during the second half of last night's game -- and Kvam not only has the trickiest surname in the league, he's a player with whom an opposing announcer might be unfamiliar, since he was not a significant player on last year's Wheaton team.

I wasn't referring to Carthage's John Weiser.  I was referring to Scott Busboom of 101FM in Decatur who did the IWU/Millikin game yesterday.

OK. That was a bit unclear, as you were responding to Pete's complaint about John Weiser with general admonishments regarding announcers not doing their pre-game homework vis-a-vis pronunciation of opposing players.

I do give props to the Decatur broadcast team making frequent mention of another Art Kimball rule - "time and score".  They did a good job of 'time and score' as the internet broadcast did not have time nor score on the screen.

That is the most important part of the job, especially if you're broadcasting on radio or on a webcast that doesn't have graphics.

Even if you screw up the names of people and/or schools, and otherwise botch up just about everything else, if you're giving time and score with regularity you're performing an in-game service that the audience might not otherwise have.

[mr_b]

I do give props to the Decatur broadcast team making frequent mention of another Art Kimball rule - "time and score".  They did a good job of 'time and score' as the internet broadcast did not have time nor score on the screen.

That is the most important part of the job, especially if you're broadcasting on radio or on a webcast that doesn't have graphics.

Even if you screw up the names of people and/or schools, and otherwise botch up just about everything else, if you're giving time and score with regularity you're performing an in-game service that the audience might not otherwise have.

I believe the late, great Ernie Harwell used to have an hourglass egg-timer to the booth with him so that every few minutes he would remind his listeners of the inning and the score.  I'm sure many others also used this (or a similar) trick.  It's frustrating to listen to a broadcast for ten minutes or longer and not have any idea of the score or the point at which the contest is.

[NCF]

Any posters going to the NC/IWU game?

[D-3 watcher]

I will be there, hopefully with about 2,000 others

[Titan Q]

Wash U lost at home today to a good Brandeis team.  The Bears now have 4 losses (all in-region)...

@ Wheaton
@ Chicago
@ Rochester
vs Brandeis


In December I viewed the Wash U as the UAA favorite and a Pool C lock (if they didn't win the UAA).  Now, based on all of the tough conference games they still have to play, it seems like the Bears are in pretty bad shape in terms of winning the UAA, and maybe getting in some Pool C trouble.  If the selection was today, it seems to me that the CCIW's top Pool C candidate (either North Central or IWU) would be ranked ahead of Wash U in the region.

Long way to go...worth keeping an eye on the Wash U situation though since they're in the Midwest region.  The Bears are still a strong shot for Pool C but if they were to lose, say, 3 more in the final 9?

UAA standings
Rochester, 5-0
Brandeis, 5-0
Emory, 3-2
NYU, 2-3
Wash U, 2-3
Chicago, 2-3
Case W R, 1-4
Carnegie M, 0-5

[petemcb]

Phonetic spellings of Wheaton's Tuescher I've heard so far by the Carthage broadcaster:

Toosher
Tuhsher
Tehsher
Teesher
Tysher

Millikin play-by-play guy Scott Busboom (from 101FM in Decatur) called IWU women's head coach Mia Smith "Mee-a", instead of "My-a", over and over again during the first game yesterday.

Andrew Ziemnik ("Zim-nik") was "Zeem-nik."

And for two games (women's and men's) mispronounced the named of Millikin's opponent - "Wezzleyan."

If you don't know, just check with someone before the broadcast starts.  As Art Kimball instructed me 30 minutes before air time of every game, "Q, Aunt Sally is going to be listening tonight so go find out how to pronounce little Johnny's name for us.  If we get it wrong, I'm sending her your way."  Seems to me like it's just lazy broadcasting to mispronounce names when there are all kinds of people in the gym who can tell you how to say it right.


(Oh, and Busboom called IWU junior Mike Mayberger "Mayberry" most of the 1st half, then shifted to "Newberry" in the second.)

I watched the second half of the WC @ CC game last night, and in Carthage PBP announcer John Weiser's defense he pronounced Teuscher's name correctly every time. It might've been a case of the first-half hiccups for him. Sometimes, even when you know the correct way to pronounce a player's name, it comes out wrong. F'rinstance, yesterday while calling the NCC @ NPU women's game, I inadvertently mispronounced NCC center Larynn Schumaker's name a couple of times, even though I know the right way to pronounce it. (Granted, when you're calling a Grinnell System game -- the NCC women play that style now -- you have to get the words out of your mouth at a pretty fast clip.)

I'm pretty sure that John checked the names of the Wheaton players, Bob. He always checks the names of NPU's players. He got Michael Kvam's name right every time during the second half of last night's game -- and Kvam not only has the trickiest surname in the league, he's a player with whom an opposing announcer might be unfamiliar, since he was not a significant player on last year's Wheaton team.

I wasn't referring to Carthage's John Weiser.  I was referring to Scott Busboom of 101FM in Decatur who did the IWU/Millikin game yesterday.

OK. That was a bit unclear, as you were responding to Pete's complaint about John Weiser with general admonishments regarding announcers not doing their pre-game homework vis-a-vis pronunciation of opposing players.

I do give props to the Decatur broadcast team making frequent mention of another Art Kimball rule - "time and score".  They did a good job of 'time and score' as the internet broadcast did not have time nor score on the screen.

That is the most important part of the job, especially if you're broadcasting on radio or on a webcast that doesn't have graphics.

Even if you screw up the names of people and/or schools, and otherwise botch up just about everything else, if you're giving time and score with regularity you're performing an in-game service that the audience might not otherwise have.

Greg, I'm not sure what your understanding is of pronounciation of the name I referenced but his father introduced himself to me pronouncing it Tisher.  I didn't hear it pronounced that way once last night.  There were at least two other names mispronounced, but this one was called much more often than the other two so it stood out more.....as did the multiple options attempted.  Good broadcast otherwise.

[Titan Q]

Greg, I'm not sure what your understanding is of pronounciation of the name I referenced but his father introduced himself to me pronouncing it Tisher.  I didn't hear it pronounced that way once last night.  There were at least two other names mispronounced, but this one was called much more often than the other two so it stood out more.....as did the multiple options attempted.  Good broadcast otherwise.

It was pronounced "Tisher" last year by Wash U play-by-play guy Jay Murray...I remember that.

[NCF]

I will be there, hopefully with about 2,000 others

Depending on the weather, I might take the drive.

[D-3 watcher]

While it would be better if all names were pronounced correctly, mainly for the friends and family, it's great to be able to watch the games. It wasn't that long ago that this was not an option.just this year for some.
So while some announcers do not care, or they just don't know, it's a trade off I'll take for the ability to watch some D-3 basketball.
We often watch other CCIW games while catching the Titans live on our tablets, as I'm sure others do as we'll.

[D-3 watcher]

NCF, the way it sounds, with all the injuries to the Cards, there is probably room on the bus. I think it should be a very good game

[mwunder]

I have no idea why Tyler Pierce missed the last game, but I don't think the Red Men can compete with Wheaton if he doesn't play.  Pierce was having a nice CCIW season before missing that game.

To quote Bull Durham..."Don't think Meat"   

It's a good thing they play 'em on the court and not on paper!  Nice win last night Red Men.

Hey, I also predicted Augie to beat Wheaton by 5 Wednesday in Rock Island.  I'm on a roll.

You must be butter!

I was just bustin your chops.  Thanks for taking it as such.

[Titan Q]

While it would be better if all names were pronounced correctly, mainly for the friends and family, it's great to be able to watch the games. It wasn't that long ago that this was not an option.just this year for some.
So while some announcers do not care, or they just don't know, it's a trade off I'll take for the ability to watch some D-3 basketball.
We often watch other CCIW games while catching the Titans live on our tablets, as I'm sure others do as we'll.

Amen.  I still sit in my basement on CCIW game night and say to myself, "I can't believe I'm actually watching these games."  Reminds me of this from Louis C.K...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpUNA2nutbk

Worth 11 minutes, I promise.  Not suitable language for children or Wheaton fans.

[Gregory Sager]

I thought that I remembered the Wheaton broadcasters calling him "Toosher". And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I always ask someone from the opposing team before the game, regardless.

(Case in point: A broadcaster who shall remain nameless was calling the NPU coach "Dill-un" Howard last year, and when his team came to the crackerbox I made sure to correct him about it before the game. His response: "Oh, sorry. That's the way I heard it pronounced on the webcast when North Park was playing such-and-such team.")

[markerickson]

Why even refer to the one and done?  He sucked as a coach and recruiter.

[Pat Coleman]

I thought that I remembered the Wheaton broadcasters calling him "Toosher". And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I always ask someone from the opposing team before the game, regardless.

(Case in point: A broadcaster who shall remain nameless was calling the NPU coach "Dill-un" Howard last year, and when his team came to the crackerbox I made sure to correct him about it before the game. His response: "Oh, sorry. That's the way I heard it pronounced on the webcast when North Park was playing such-and-such team.")

Like with Dylan Howard, Mia Smith has a name that is pronounced one way 99.5% of the time. (So does Nancy Fahey, or John Gagliardi.) *If* someone checks the pronunciation of players on that team, it would be prudent of the person being asked to provide advice to add, "By the way, you know that the coach's name is pronounced unusually as well, right?"