MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Titan Q]

IWU comes out of that timeout at 9:31 mark, down 59-43, at the 1:43 mark on the player.

* It was a 21-4 IWU run over 6:25 to take the first lead, 64-63, at the 3:06 mark (on the Ziemnik 3)

Augie's inexperience clearly showed, but I think it's worth noting that Dyan Overstreet was a JV player last year, playing his first ever varsity game at Augustana.  Among many key IWU players down the stretch, an inexperienced one really made a bunch of plays.

Kunz picked up foul #3 @ 10:54 and foul #4 @ 9:59 after which he came out until 7:05. Dortch scored all of his 5 points during that 2:54 minutes off two jumpers and a FT narrowing Augie lead to 6. And, I thought Augie foul trouble helped clear the way for Overstreet to drive the basket.

You lost me a little on this one, Mich.

Eric Dortch didn't make any jumpers.  In fact, the next time he makes a jumper they'll probably stop the game and give him the basketball.

* Dortch's first basket in the final 9:31, and "and one" layup, was off a give-and-go from Kevin Reed, who made a nice bounce pass.  Augie had trouble defending variations of that play all night long - Chris Ford and Dan Sand commented on it several times.  Had Brandon Kunz been on the floor he would have been guarding Reed (the passer) 15 feet from the basket, and not in position to affect the shot.   (1:46:50 on the archive)

* Dortch's second basket, on the very next possession, was also a layup.  Dortch stripped the ball from Tayvian Johnson and went 90 feet to the IWU basket.  Again, I'm not sure how Brandon Kunz's presence on the floor would have impacted that?

* Dortch exclusively played a perimeter position on the floor (the 3) during that stretch - Overstreet, Dolan, Dorth, Ziemnik, Reed/Davis.  (He wasn't playing a post spot, matched up with an Augie post.)

* Equally as confused on how foul trouble impacted Dylan Overstreet's dribble drive baskets?


Maybe I'm just not understanding your thinking here.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

... I think you might be combining the two games. I think what you're describing about Sanborn checking out on offense was more in the UWL game, for what it's worth.

No, because I remember talking to McBreen after the NCC game and we talked about the fact that Sanborn knows he probably won't be subbed for even if he isn't trying. Then the next game against La Crosse he is doing the same thing and McBreen subs him out...

Dave, I'm not understanding your point here.  Sanborn took 20 shots against NCC and made 6 of them scoring 14pts. Sanborn's 20 fga doesn't fit the bill of a player freezing himself out of a game offensively! The next night, according to the boxscore, they played Hiram not lacrosse. He only attempted 8 fgs but made 6 of them scoring 19pts.  Seems like to me his 8 fga was more attributed to treadwell going 13-16 and scoring 37pts rather than sanborn taking plays off. Ramapo won the Hiram game by the way even with Will "the thrill" standing in the corner.

First off, I did screw up with the opponent. They played Hiram in the second game... I was thinking about NCC's opponent - sorry about that.

As for Sanborn, he was 3-12 in the first half and 3-8 in the second. He didn't freeze himself out of the game as much as he just didn't make an effort. I vividly remember him being in a corner and not coming to the ball when his teammates were stuck after picking up their dribble. It even became a conversation with Pat and I at some point in the weekend and it certainly was a conversation I had with Coach McBreen after the NCC game.

Sanborn is also very capable of beating people off the dribble and getting to the basket, but he just didn't seem to have an interest in taking up that part of the game all weekend. He would show signs, but seemed more willing to have LoRusso bring the ball up and run the offense and when he felt like it, get the ball and do something.

And Ramapo better have beaten Hiram - they were the better team on paper and on the floor. And yes, Treadwell had a good game, but if Sanborn and he are playing a good inside-outside game, they would be dangerous - I still don't think they have figured that out all that much.

[iwumichigander]

IWU comes out of that timeout at 9:31 mark, down 59-43, at the 1:43 mark on the player.

* It was a 21-4 IWU run over 6:25 to take the first lead, 64-63, at the 3:06 mark (on the Ziemnik 3)

Augie's inexperience clearly showed, but I think it's worth noting that Dyan Overstreet was a JV player last year, playing his first ever varsity game at Augustana.  Among many key IWU players down the stretch, an inexperienced one really made a bunch of plays.

Kunz picked up foul #3 @ 10:54 and foul #4 @ 9:59 after which he came out until 7:05. Dortch scored all of his 5 points during that 2:54 minutes off two jumpers and a FT narrowing Augie lead to 6. And, I thought Augie foul trouble helped clear the way for Overstreet to drive the basket.

You lost me a little on this one, Mich.

Eric Dortch didn't make any jumpers.  In fact, the next time he makes a jumper they'll probably stop the game and give him the basketball.

* Dortch's first basket in the final 9:31, and "and one" layup, was off a give-and-go from Kevin Reed, who made a nice bounce pass.  Augie had trouble defending variations of that play all night long - Chris Ford and Dan Sand commented on it several times.  Had Brandon Kunz been on the floor he would have been guarding Reed (the passer) 15 feet from the basket, and not in position to affect the shot.   (1:46:50 on the archive)

* Dortch's second basket, on the very next possession, was also a layup.  Dortch stripped the ball from Tayvian Johnson and went 90 feet to the IWU basket.  Again, I'm not sure how Brandon Kunz's presence on the floor would have impacted that?

* Dortch exclusively played a perimeter position on the floor (the 3) during that stretch - Overstreet, Dolan, Dorth, Ziemnik, Reed/Davis.  (He wasn't playing a post spot, matched up with an Augie post.)

* Equally as confused on how foul trouble impacted Dylan Overstreet's dribble drive baskets?


Maybe I'm just not understanding your thinking here.

* Jumper vs Layup - stat sheet categorized as a "jumper" so I went with the stat sheet description rather than from memory or by replaying the archive
* Kunz - did not mean to imply Kunz being out helped or did not help Dortch score his 5 points in that time stretch
* Foul Trouble - it just seemed to me Augie was a little tentative on defense during that stretch

[wheels81]

From seeing only the box score, I see Wheaton 82-70 over NPU.  Peters appears to have had a terrible shooting night, 1-7 from the floor.  He finishes with 8 points, 10 assists, 5 rebounds, and 5 steals.  Big night from Haynes with 23 points and 11 rebounds, along with 3 blocks.  Kvam hit 7 three's for 22 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists.

Peters was aggressive to the hoop as usual and his 3 turnovers were the result of offensive fouls.  Kvam hit 5 in a row at one point.  Wheaton although winning by 12 does show their youth in that it seemed they would always go to the hoop on fast break whether they had numbers or not and really tried to make the dazzling play rather than recognize the defense was there and back it out to work their offense.  They either threw the ball away or were called for offensive fouls because the NP defender(s) got back in position.  Given more prudent use of their possessions they could have easily have won by 25.

[D-3 watcher]

If IWU wins the league, with only 1or 2 losses, D. Overstreet will be the most valuable player in the conference.
Note I said valuable player. His contributions to the team have been key to the success of the Titans. As with most PGs the ball is in his hands a lot, and he has for the most part, taken care of it.
Without him, I don't believe IWU would be sitting on top, alone.
I don't know if he will even make the first team all CCIW, I think he should but their are a lot of good players in the league.
But I'm talking valuable, and he is leading his team, the first place Titans to a place where nobody thought they would be. (Including me). He has a lot of talented players with him, and that makes it easier for him, just saying.
1st Team
Overstreet
Raridon---POY?
Gamble
Tinkis
Peters--POY?
Haynes

I know that's 6.  Can't decide yet. Still a lot of ball to go, but that's what I got.

[wheels81]

GS,
Who was the third commentator on the broadcast last night?  (Which I thought was very good -content wise- even though you still used the Sonic Atmospheric Disturbance tag)    The voice was Female and sounded computer generated.

[Gregory Sager]

GS,
Who was the third commentator on the broadcast last night?  (Which I thought was very good -content wise- even though you still used the Sonic Atmospheric Disturbance tag)    The voice was Female and sounded computer generated.

"Third commentator"? A computer-generated female voice? I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

And I didn't make the Sonic Atmospheric Disturbance reference. That was Rob Berki's doing, not that it really matters one way or the other. We're certainly not the most polite and buttoned-down broadcast team out there. But, just for the record, I called Wheaton "the Thunder", which I always do on the air.

Thanks for the compliment, though!

[Gregory Sager]

North Park 82
Wheaton 70

Chris Benjamin: 17 pts, 6 rebs, 3 stls
Zach Cassita: 17 pts, 5 rebs
Mark Holmes: 14 pts, 10 rebs
Cameron Burnett: 10 pts, 4 asts

Nathan Haynes: 23 pts, 11 rebs, 3 blks
Michael Kvam: 22 pts (7-11 trey)
Brayden Teuscher: 15 pts
Peter Smith: 6 rebs
Tyler Peters: 10 asts, 5 rebs, 5 stls

NPU at least made it interesting for awhile, jumping out to an early 11-6 advantage and maintaining a lead for the first seven minutes of the game. Even after Wheaton began inevitably asserting itself, the Vikes persisted in holding Wheaton close, for the most part, until Michael Kvam began raining threes shortly before the end of the first half.

NPU was so outmanned that Tom Slyder essentially had to decide what he was willing to give up and what he was going to guard against. Since Wheaton's greatest offensive strength rests in the dribble penetration of Tyler Peters and Brayden Teuscher, Tom had the Vikings collapse on the penetration whenever it took place. That left the perimeter wide open, and Wheaton did a nice job of locating Kvam and getting him the ball in those situations. Even when he was covered, it was often with the vertically-challenged Cameron Burnett, whom the NPU coach was attempting to keep away from Tyler Peters, due to the ability of Peters to post up smaller guards. Unfortunately, it's also difficult for Burnett to stop the much taller Kvam from shooting right over him. And, of course, the size-challenged Vikings had no answer for Nathan Haynes inside.

Tom's strategy, as has been the case in several CCIW games that North Park has played, was to slow the pace of the game down by having the Vikings hold the ball until there were only five-to-eight seconds left on the shot clock, and then try to create a shot. This seemed like an especially apt strategy against Wheaton, whose entire game is predicated upon the ability to run up and down the floor for forty minutes. Unfortunately, NPU just doesn't have the personnel to be able to create a shot in that short an amount of time -- the Vikings frequently struggle to find a good shot even when they have the full 35-second allotment -- and the offense was coming up with one empty possession after another. Left with no other choice, Tom finally opened up the offense, and at that point the inevitable onslaught of Wheaton runouts began. Wheaton was listed as having only 8 fast-break points, but that's a misleading stat; if secondary-break points are counted as well, WC's total would've been well over 20.

Chris Benjamin played a very solid game. He was frequently asked to guard Tyler Peters, the toughest player to guard on the floor, and the 1-7 FG performance by Peters last night speaks for itself as far as Benjy's defense is concerned. Cameron Burnett had a solid overall game, although Peters did pick his pocket a couple of times. Mark Holmes was invisible in the first half (zero points, two fouls), but played very well after the break. And Zach Cassita had perhaps his most well-rounded CCIW game yet.

The game was not as close as the twelve-point final margin made it appear. NPU was just plain outgunned. Same old, same old. At least this weekend, the Vikings will be in Decatur playing a team that's more on their own level.

[CCIWchamps]

GS,
Who was the third commentator on the broadcast last night?  (Which I thought was very good -content wise- even though you still used the Sonic Atmospheric Disturbance tag)    The voice was Female and sounded computer generated.

"Third commentator"? A computer-generated female voice? I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

And I didn't make the Sonic Atmospheric Disturbance reference. That was Rob Berki's doing, not that it really matters one way or the other. We're certainly not the most polite and buttoned-down broadcast team out there. But, just for the record, I called Wheaton "the Thunder", which I always do on the air.

Thanks for the compliment, though!

I heard that too- I think it has something to do with the video stream software?  Maybe she was saying "demo" or something because she said it pretty regularly, like she was talking in the background.  If "she" is a computer that might make sense.

[Titan Q]

* Foul Trouble - it just seemed to me Augie was a little tentative on defense during that stretch

Gotcha Larry.  I took a look at those plays on the video and I don't think that tentative play due to foul trouble was the case.

Overstreet had 4 dribble-drive baskets in the final 9:31...

1) To make it 59-45 Augie, 9:11 (1:43:50 on player) – took Jawan Straughter one-on-one off the dribble with his left hand.  Straughter had 1 foul at the time.

2) To make it 61-58 Augie, 5:54 (1:51:40) – same exact play, just a different defender – Mark Roth.  Roth had 1 foul at the time.

3) To make it 63-60 Augie, 4:30 (1:55:55) – completely busted defensive play...for some reason Straughter left Overstreet to double team Eric Dortch beyond the arc on the right wing with Brandon Thompson, leaving Overstreet wide open.  Kevin Reed passed it to Overstreet for a wide open layup. Ben Ryan rushed over but it was too late.

4) To make it 69-65 IWU, :30 (2:08:00) – Overstreet drove, then picked up his dribble just outside the left block.  6-7 Brandon Kunz was right there and defended the play well, but 6-3 Overstreet threw up a bit of a prayer, turnaround 8-footer than went in.


There was some less than stellar Augie defense on three of those plays, but I don't see the tentative thing.

[Titan Q]

Updated efficiency calculations through 9 games...

Offensive Efficiency (Pts/100 poss.)
IWU: 111.2
Wheaton: 108.6
Augustana: 105.3
North Central: 99.4
Carthage: 93.0
North Park: 90.1
Millikin: 89.1
Elmhurst: 82.2

Defensive Efficiency (Opponent Pts/100 Poss.)
IWU: 87.7
North Central: 88.3
Augustana: 91.3
Carthage: 93.6
Wheaton: 95.9
Millikin: 102.1
Elmhurst: 105.3
North Park: 114.0

Total Efficiency (Differential per 100 poss.)
IWU: +23.5
Augustana: +14.0
Wheaton: +12.8
North Central: +11.1
Carthage: -0.6
Millikin: -13.0
Elmhurst: -23.0
North Park: -23.9

[Titan Q]

My Midwest Region ranking projection (through 1/30)
1.      Transylvania  .833 (15-3)/.577
2.      Ill. Wesleyan  .824 (14-3)/.515
3.      North Central  .833 (15-3)/.541
4.      Wheaton  .777 (14-4)/.537
5.      Washington U  .765 (13-4)/.574
6.      Rose-Hulman  .895 (17-2)/.460
7.      Augustana  .737 (14-5)/.571
8.      Grinnell  .813 (13-3)/.482
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9.      St. Norbert  .833 (15-3)/.499


Notes
* My criteria includes 1) in-region winning %, 2) in-region SOS, 3) in-region head-to-head, and 4) in-region common opponents.

* My SOS data is coming from KnightSlappy's incredible regional ranking work on his blog.  These numbers are through 1/27, so the SOS figures are one game old in most cases.  The SOS numbers do fluctuate enough from game to game to make some difference. http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/2010-2011-d3-mens-regional-rankings.html

* The following in-region head-to-head results among the teams above were factored into my projection:
   - Transylvania - win @ Rose-Hulman
   - Illinois Wesleyan - wins @ Wheaton, vs Augustana, vs NCC, @ Augustana...loss @ Wash U
   - North Central - wins vs Wheaton, vs Augustana...losses @ IWU, @ Wheaton
   - Wheaton - wins @ Augustana, vs NCC, vs Wash U...losses @ NCC, vs IWU
   - Wash U - win vs IWU...loss @ Wheaton
   - Augustana - win @ St. Norbert...losses @NCC, @IWU, vs Wheaton, vs IWU
   - Rose-Hulman - no wins...loss @ Transylvania
   - Grinnell - win @ St. Norbert
   - St. Norbert - no wins...losses vs Augustana, vs Grinnell

* Key common opponent games include:
  - IWU's loss to Franklin/Transylvania's win over Franklin
  - Wash U's win over IWU/Augustana's losses to IWU
  - St. Norbert's loss to Augustana...IWU, NCC, Wheaton wins over Augustana.

* Since there are no actual regional rankings yet, I have not factored in in-region results vs teams who will be ranked in other regions.  For example, Transylvania's win over Wooster (Great Lakes) and St. Norbert's win over UW-Whitewater (West).

[TitansIWU]

North Park 82
Wheaton 70

Chris Benjamin: 17 pts, 6 rebs, 3 stls
Zach Cassita: 17 pts, 5 rebs
Mark Holmes: 14 pts, 10 rebs
Cameron Burnett: 10 pts, 4 asts

Nathan Haynes: 23 pts, 11 rebs, 3 blks
Michael Kvam: 22 pts (7-11 trey)
Brayden Teuscher: 15 pts
Peter Smith: 6 rebs
Tyler Peters: 10 asts, 5 rebs, 5 stls

NPU at least made it interesting for awhile, jumping out to an early 11-6 advantage and maintaining a lead for the first seven minutes of the game. Even after Wheaton began inevitably asserting itself, the Vikes persisted in holding Wheaton close, for the most part, until Michael Kvam began raining threes shortly before the end of the first half.

NPU was so outmanned that Tom Slyder essentially had to decide what he was willing to give up and what he was going to guard against. Since Wheaton's greatest offensive strength rests in the dribble penetration of Tyler Peters and Brayden Teuscher, Tom had the Vikings collapse on the penetration whenever it took place. That left the perimeter wide open, and Wheaton did a nice job of locating Kvam and getting him the ball in those situations. Even when he was covered, it was often with the vertically-challenged Cameron Burnett, whom the NPU coach was attempting to keep away from Tyler Peters, due to the ability of Peters to post up smaller guards. Unfortunately, it's also difficult for Burnett to stop the much taller Kvam from shooting right over him. And, of course, the size-challenged Vikings had no answer for Nathan Haynes inside.

Tom's strategy, as has been the case in several CCIW games that North Park has played, was to slow the pace of the game down by having the Vikings hold the ball until there were only five-to-eight seconds left on the shot clock, and then try to create a shot. This seemed like an especially apt strategy against Wheaton, whose entire game is predicated upon the ability to run up and down the floor for forty minutes. Unfortunately, NPU just doesn't have the personnel to be able to create a shot in that short an amount of time -- the Vikings frequently struggle to find a good shot even when they have the full 35-second allotment -- and the offense was coming up with one empty possession after another. Left with no other choice, Tom finally opened up the offense, and at that point the inevitable onslaught of Wheaton runouts began. Wheaton was listed as having only 8 fast-break points, but that's a misleading stat; if secondary-break points are counted as well, WC's total would've been well over 20.

Chris Benjamin played a very solid game. He was frequently asked to guard Tyler Peters, the toughest player to guard on the floor, and the 1-7 FG performance by Peters last night speaks for itself as far as Benjy's defense is concerned. Cameron Burnett had a solid overall game, although Peters did pick his pocket a couple of times. Mark Holmes was invisible in the first half (zero points, two fouls), but played very well after the break. And Zach Cassita had perhaps his most well-rounded CCIW game yet.

The game was not as close as the twelve-point final margin made it appear. NPU was just plain outgunned. Same old, same old. At least this weekend, the Vikings will be in Decatur playing a team that's more on their own level.

Judging from your score at the top of your post, doesn't seem that North park was outgunned at all.

I think there is a diagnosis for what you have, score dyslexia possibly?

Sadly, just putting it up there like that won't change the outcome, nice try. 

[Gregory Sager]

Judging from your score at the top of your post, doesn't seem that North park was outgunned at all.

I think there is a diagnosis for what you have, score dyslexia possibly?

Nope, just wishful thinking impinging upon inattentiveness.

GS,
Who was the third commentator on the broadcast last night?  (Which I thought was very good -content wise- even though you still used the Sonic Atmospheric Disturbance tag)    The voice was Female and sounded computer generated.

"Third commentator"? A computer-generated female voice? I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

And I didn't make the Sonic Atmospheric Disturbance reference. That was Rob Berki's doing, not that it really matters one way or the other. We're certainly not the most polite and buttoned-down broadcast team out there. But, just for the record, I called Wheaton "the Thunder", which I always do on the air.

Thanks for the compliment, though!

I heard that too- I think it has something to do with the video stream software?  Maybe she was saying "demo" or something because she said it pretty regularly, like she was talking in the background.  If "she" is a computer that might make sense.

Great. Now, in addition to a lousy season, NPU has to worry about a poltergeist in the webcast.

[NCF]

Judging from your score at the top of your post, doesn't seem that North park was outgunned at all.

I think there is a diagnosis for what you have, score dyslexia possibly?

Nope, just wishful thinking impinging upon inattentiveness.

GS,
Who was the third commentator on the broadcast last night?  (Which I thought was very good -content wise- even though you still used the Sonic Atmospheric Disturbance tag)    The voice was Female and sounded computer generated.

"Third commentator"? A computer-generated female voice? I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

And I didn't make the Sonic Atmospheric Disturbance reference. That was Rob Berki's doing, not that it really matters one way or the other. We're certainly not the most polite and buttoned-down broadcast team out there. But, just for the record, I called Wheaton "the Thunder", which I always do on the air.

Thanks for the compliment, though!

I heard that too- I think it has something to do with the video stream software?  Maybe she was saying "demo" or something because she said it pretty regularly, like she was talking in the background.  If "she" is a computer that might make sense.

Great. Now, in addition to a lousy season, NPU has to worry about a poltergeist in the webcast.

Maybe it's the ghost of North Park past:)