MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[iwu70]

. . . or a Titan in the Year of the Snake!  Is it really the Year of the Snake?  Who knew?

IWU70

[Pat Coleman]

Good point, rabblerouser. The floor has to be available for that as well.

That is why I referenced the track schedule and the pentathlon and heptathlon times because those events last 3-4 hours......It may not be possible.....I was just trying to think of ways to accomplish both.

On another note, can NCC practice at Benedictine during the week prior to Friday?

The NCAA wouldn't have a say in that.

[SevenTen]

Good point, rabblerouser. The floor has to be available for that as well.

That is why I referenced the track schedule and the pentathlon and heptathlon times because those events last 3-4 hours......It may not be possible.....I was just trying to think of ways to accomplish both.

On another note, can NCC practice at Benedictine during the week prior to Friday?

The NCAA wouldn't have a say in that.

Right.  NCC is the host school.  They should be able to practice on the court as much as they'd like.. no different than the other host schools in this round.

[kiko]

Good point, rabblerouser. The floor has to be available for that as well.

That is why I referenced the track schedule and the pentathlon and heptathlon times because those events last 3-4 hours......It may not be possible.....I was just trying to think of ways to accomplish both.

On another note, can NCC practice at Benedictine during the week prior to Friday?

The NCAA wouldn't have a say in that.

Right.  NCC is the host school.  They should be able to practice on the court as much as they'd like.. no different than the other host schools in this round.

I would imagine that either school could practice anywhere they want so long as they can make the appropriate arrangements.  Hypothetically, Whitewater could practice there as well throughout the week if they arranged for it with Benedictine.

The only mandate that the NCAA insists upon is that the teams involved have an opportunity to practice on the actual game court the day before the game.

[toooldtohoop]

Another question for those more familiar with the inner workings of the NCAA............

Given that we are in the national tournament phase of the season, and game details are no longer controlled by the individual schools, would you not think that there would be conformity between game sites?

Specifically, why would tickets have been $8.00 at UWW yesterday, $7.00 at IWU, and only $6.00 at NCC?
Looks like NCC is the more fan friendly institution.     

sorry about the late response...just getting caught up with all this volume.

sorry and one, but absolutely no visitors will ever describe your barn as fan friendly!

[toooldtohoop]

That SNC @ WC game was sure fun to watch ... right down to the final buzzer. Given the fact that he's a 39% shooter from downtown, if Paul Appleton had had enough time to square up for that final trey it could've been St. Norbert that advanced rather than Wheaton.

As well as Brayden Teuscher played last night, I think that Nathan Haynes was the key to the ballgame. SNC dominated the game in the paint in the first half, but Haynes just completely took over the inside in the second half. To give credit where credit is due, I think that the much-maligned Michael Berg came up with some big boards in the second half as well. It was just a terrific comeback by a team that plays with a lot of composure and confidence on its home floor.

Unfortunately for WC, this will most likely be it. I don't see the Sonic Atmospheric Disturbance having much of a chance next Saturday up in the Twin Cities. I've seen a couple of St. Thomas webcasts, and I think that the Tommies are the class of the tournament field this year. Doesn't mean that Wheaton won't give it everything it has, and upsets are always possible -- that's what makes this time of year so much fun -- but I just don't see it happening against the Tommies.

The key to the WC victory last night was that they returned to the style of play that got their season off to a surprising start.  Namely strong deny defense and sharing the basketball.  A number of Wheaties contributed to the second half turnaround.  The offensive efforts of Kvam, Haynes, Smith, and Teuscher stand out.  But they also defended well as a team in the second half. 

Hopefully, the first half display was due to a virus that has been shed.

If the team that beat WashU, and the team that beat NCC, and the team that beat Calvin, shows up in Minnesota....

Hoping their spring break gets spoiled by practices!

[AndOne]

One other part of the equation:

The NCAA has a requirement that the visiting school(s), as well as the home team, has the opportunity to practice on the game floor the day BEFORE the game -- and also have a shootaround/walk-through on the game floor the  day of the game.  (I think the practice the day before is for 90 minutes.)  Therefore, Merner would need to be available for practice on Friday, with no one else in the arena, and that sounds like an impossibility with the Indoor Track and Field championships.  I would have to guess that both teams will practice at Benedictine on Friday in addition to the Saturday walk-throughs and game.

Good point, rabblerouser. The floor has to be available for that as well.

Exactly. Centre had the NCC court for practice Friday afternoon, and was on the floor again earlier Sat.
As I advised a couple of pages ago, there will be some 850 athletes attending and competing in the indoor track championship event next weekend. While the NCC Res/Rec Center is BIG, another space is necessary for staging and warm-ups. With Merner Fieldhouse being steps away, its the logical place for those activities.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
However, given the possibilities concerning the timing and length of certain track events, a certain faction of the NCC athletic family certainly favored deeper exploration of the possibility of both athletic events being able to be held on the NCC campus.

While I recognize the honor and prestige that attaches to hosting a national championship event, my being primarily a basketball fan leaves me with the feeling that its unfortunate the track & field event falls on the same weekend that the Cardinals have the opportunity to host a national basketball championship 2nd round game. Consolation comes in the fact that I live 3 or 4 minutes from the Benedictine gym. Sure beats a 2 hour ride to Whitewater and playing on a decidedly hostile floor.   

[AndOne]

Another question for those more familiar with the inner workings of the NCAA............

Given that we are in the national tournament phase of the season, and game details are no longer controlled by the individual schools, would you not think that there would be conformity between game sites?

Specifically, why would tickets have been $8.00 at UWW yesterday, $7.00 at IWU, and only $6.00 at NCC?
Looks like NCC is the more fan friendly institution.     

sorry about the late response...just getting caught up with all this volume.

sorry and one, but absolutely no visitors will ever describe your barn as fan friendly!

Except that at least from a financial standpoint toooldto, the proof is, in fact, plainly evident as the above example illustrates. 
Additionally, certain visiting fans have enjoyed a charming and delightful time in The Hangar. Perhaps your negativity lies in the fact that you have not acquainted yourself with those that have the capability of making this happen.        

[AndOne]

Good point, rabblerouser. The floor has to be available for that as well.

That is why I referenced the track schedule and the pentathlon and heptathlon times because those events last 3-4 hours......It may not be possible.....I was just trying to think of ways to accomplish both.

On another note, can NCC practice at Benedictine during the week prior to Friday?

The NCAA wouldn't have a say in that.

Right.  NCC is the host school.  They should be able to practice on the court as much as they'd like.. no different than the other host schools in this round.

In fact, this afternoon, NCC set up a shuttle schedule to ferry players between classes at NCC and practice times at BU, in order that the NCC squad maximize their familiarity with the BU court prior to Saturday's clash with UWW.   

[toooldtohoop]

Another question for those more familiar with the inner workings of the NCAA............

Given that we are in the national tournament phase of the season, and game details are no longer controlled by the individual schools, would you not think that there would be conformity between game sites?

Specifically, why would tickets have been $8.00 at UWW yesterday, $7.00 at IWU, and only $6.00 at NCC?
Looks like NCC is the more fan friendly institution.     

sorry about the late response...just getting caught up with all this volume.

sorry and one, but absolutely no visitors will ever describe your barn as fan friendly!

Except that at least from a financial standpoint toooldto, the proof is, in fact, plainly evident as the above example illustrates. 
Additionally, certain visiting fans have enjoyed a charming and delightful time in The Hangar. Perhaps your negativity lies in the fact that you have not acquainted yourself with those that have the capability of making this happen.        

Lower ticket prices do NOT equate to "fan friendly".  your facility is lacking.  and my negativity is entirely based on my EXPERIENCE in your facility.  No dependence on wins or losses.  I have attended a number of games in the Barn for the last few years.  Each experience relative to other environments is disappointing to say the least.  I understand your deep need to be proud and represent the program that you are heavily invested in.  But, COME ON!

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[veterancciwfan]

A few more stats regarding IWU vs. Wash. U. WU's record in NCAA tournament games is 31-14 (.689) compared to IWU's 48-21 (.696). IWU has made it to 5 Final 4s (1 National championship) and WU has made it 3 times ( 2 National titles). IWU has an 18-15 lead in overall games. IWU ranked 10 and WU #17 in last D3 Hoops poll. It will be a classic matchup in St. Louis Saturday.

Just a brief recap of how IWU has fared in NCAA tourney Round 2 games on the road recently:

1) Beat Wartburg 65-60 in 2001 (Bridges' last season)
2) Beat Wash U. 85-73 in 2003 (Trost's 2nd season)
3) Beat Hanover 77-67 in 2004
4) Embarrassed Whitewater 85-71 in 2006 (following a 20 point lead by IWU in the 1st half, the Whitewater students chanted an obscenity for 20 minutes and left the building midway through the 2nd half, giving up in disgust)
5) Beat Wash. U. 75-70 in 2010 (Rose's 4th season)
6) Lost to St. Thomas 70-78 in in 2011 (the closest game St. Thomas had as they stormed to a national title)
7) Beat Hope 108-101 (2 OTs) in one of the top 5 IWU games I have witnessed

[Pat Coleman]

4) Embarrassed Whitewater 85-71 in 2006 (following a 20 point lead by IWU in the 1st half, the Whitewater students chanted an obscenity for 20 minutes and left the building midway through the 2nd half, giving up in disgust)

You sure? That charge has been leveled a lot but the standard chant there is "You-Dub-Dub."

[Mr. Ypsi]

A few more stats regarding IWU vs. Wash. U. WU's record in NCAA tournament games is 31-14 (.689) compared to IWU's 48-21 (.696). IWU has made it to 5 Final 4s (1 National championship) and WU has made it 3 times ( 2 National titles). IWU has an 18-15 lead in overall games. IWU ranked 10 and WU #17 in last D3 Hoops poll. It will be a classic matchup in St. Louis Saturday.

Just a brief recap of how IWU has fared in NCAA tourney Round 2 games on the road recently:

1) Beat Wartburg 65-60 in 2001 (Bridges' last season)
2) Beat Wash U. 85-73 in 2003 (Trost's 2nd season)
3) Beat Hanover 77-67 in 2004
4) Embarrassed Whitewater 85-71 in 2006 (following a 20 point lead by IWU in the 1st half, the Whitewater students chanted an obscenity for 20 minutes and left the building midway through the 2nd half, giving up in disgust)
5) Beat Wash. U. 75-70 in 2010 (Rose's 4th season)
6) Lost to St. Thomas 70-78 in in 2011 (the closest game St. Thomas had as they stormed to a national title)
7) Beat Hope 108-101 (2 OTs) in one of the top 5 IWU games I have witnessed

You've been to far more games than I; the only comparable game I've seen was the final game against ISU.  Maybe I got jaded at Fred Young, but the two most memorable games I've ever personally seen were both on the road.

[AndOne]

Another question for those more familiar with the inner workings of the NCAA............

Given that we are in the national tournament phase of the season, and game details are no longer controlled by the individual schools, would you not think that there would be conformity between game sites?

Specifically, why would tickets have been $8.00 at UWW yesterday, $7.00 at IWU, and only $6.00 at NCC?
Looks like NCC is the more fan friendly institution.     

sorry about the late response...just getting caught up with all this volume.

sorry and one, but absolutely no visitors will ever describe your barn as fan friendly!

Except that at least from a financial standpoint toooldto, the proof is, in fact, plainly evident as the above example illustrates. 
Additionally, certain visiting fans have enjoyed a charming and delightful time in The Hangar. Perhaps your negativity lies in the fact that you have not acquainted yourself with those that have the capability of making this happen.        

Lower ticket prices do NOT equate to "fan friendly".  your facility is lacking.  and my negativity is entirely based on my EXPERIENCE in your facility.  No dependence on wins or losses.  I have attended a number of games in the Barn for the last few years.  Each experience relative to other environments is disappointing to say the least.  I understand your deep need to be proud and represent the program that you are heavily invested in.  But, COME ON!

It appears that not only are you toooldtohoop, but also toooldnottobecrabby. My smileys obviously had no effect.   

So lets say The Hangar is not the Taj Mahal of basketball facilities. Tell me too, what facility does your team play in?

You say that you have attended a number of games in the Hangar over the last few years, and that your experiences there have been "disappointing." I think the natural follow-up question to your statement is why do you continue to attend if doing so leaves you with a "disappointing" feeling? After all you can now just stay home and watch the game on TV. I promise you we won't be "disappointed" by your absence. 

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[SevenTen]

4) Embarrassed Whitewater 85-71 in 2006 (following a 20 point lead by IWU in the 1st half, the Whitewater students chanted an obscenity for 20 minutes and left the building midway through the 2nd half, giving up in disgust)

You sure? That charge has been leveled a lot but the standard chant there is "You-Dub-Dub."

I spent 10 minutes trying to figure out what obscenity "U-Dub-Dub" is routinely mistaken for but had no luck. Maybe I need a bigger/profane vocabulary.