MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[petemcb]

It will be interesting to see what NCC does with its floor level seating for Round 3. Will NCC be able to limit the really good seats to NCC alums (other than the end zone seats) as they did in the regular season? Or will IWU be given half of those seats? And who makes the decision, NCC, as the host school, or the NCAA? I have a suggestion. Get rid of the risers and chairs and install some aluminum bleachers with 10-15 rows on the balcony side and divide them up 50/50 to each school. I bet NCC could sell 3500 tickets for the game if capacity was not an issue. NCC has a great b'ball program and Todd Raridon is a class act and one of the best D3 coaches in the country. Too bad he can't convince the NCC administration that it's time to build a new fieldhouse.

God man, call 911 quick! Someone has slipped some mushrooms into your green Kool-Aid. 

Giving half the prime floor seats to the opposition is only going to happen in a galaxy far, far away.
Imagine the ire of NCC boosters, who have paid for those seats, the players parents, and former players who might arrive to find their seats occupied by opposing fans. Ain't gonna happen.
Your question reminds me of the same inquiry made by Tim McCrary's dad during the 2012 CCIW Conference Tourney. Ask Wheaton fans Petemcb and 74 Impala, who both appreciated my answer, what my response was at that time.

With regard to 10-15 rows of bleachers on the north side where the risers and folding chairs now make their domicile, my one question is, Do YOU want to pay for them?

NCC used the last bucket of money it accumulated to build the state of the art Res/REC Center just east of the fieldhouse. This is the facility where the D3 National Indoor Track & Field Championships were held this past weekend. I believe the benefactors who donated the largest sum(s) of money earmarked those funds specifically to go towrd construction of the Res/Rec Center. The next time NCC fills its treasure chest, the funds will almost certainly be used to construct a new science building. A new fieldhouse is, at best, number 2 on the list of future projects. Neither Todd Raridon nor anyone else is going to change the administration's view on this subject. Besides, why fix what works? 

However, it does appear that the Hangar might receive some upgrades as early as next season. At or near the top of the list is permanent seating on the north side across from the team benches, and possibly under the baskets on both ends. These would be seats with backs and armrests. Preliminary discussions have evidently been initiated with the firms who completed work on several arenas with which we are all familiar. Of course, once any plans have been formalized, one must obtain the thousand or so permits the visionaries on the Naperville City Council seem to demand on any worthwhile project.

For the record:  North Park/Wheaton/Kevin Reed fan.  File that under the category of FWIW.

[Hoosier Titan]

IWU ticket info is here.  Tickets will be available at Shirk at 11 a.m. tomorrow (Tuesday).  600 tickets are allotted.

http://iwusports.com/news/2013/3/11/MBB_0311130442.aspx?path=mbball

[D-3 watcher]

Q,
That fan friendly stuff went out the window when it's IWU coming to town. There is another 5 to 6 hundred to be had.

[SevenTen]

Q,
That fan friendly stuff went out the window when it's IWU coming to town. There is another 5 to 6 hundred to be had.

My guess is the "sectional rounds" have a higher minimum (though IWU charged $7 for their first round game).  But again, no Host Operations Handbook to consult.

[Rafi]

Q,
That fan friendly stuff went out the window when it's IWU coming to town. There is another 5 to 6 hundred to be had.

It's hard to make any money when all the tickets are sold for $3.   

[Titan Q]

Article on Andrew Ziemnik and the Wash U game - http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/illinois-wesleyan/iwu-stays-with-cold-shooting-ziemnik-pays-off-with-late/article_0457797e-89e9-11e2-bd1d-0019bb2963f4.html

[Titan Q]

Massey ratings for the Sweet 16...

Top Left
#4 Calvin
#1 St. Thomas*

#15 Virginia Wesleyan
#14 Williams*

Bottom Left
#21 Mary Hardin-Baylor
#9 Whitworth*

#10 St. Mary's (MD)*
#117 Morrisville State

Top Right
#7 Amherst*
#12 Randolph-Macon

#23 Wooster*
#37 Cabrini

Bottom Right
#5 Illinois Wesleyan
#2 North Central*

#74 Ithaca
#18 Middlebury*

* host


http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&yr=2013&sub=11620

[Titan Q]

3 NESCAC teams left (Middlebury, Amherst, Williams)...all in different quadrants...all hosting in the Sweet 16.

Must be nice!

[Naperick]

ANDONE, any idea what caused the "near fight" in the final seconds of the game last night?  I didn't see it.  Thankfully two officials and teammates from both schools kept it from getting ugly.

I only caught the final seven minutes or so of the game at Benedictine last night.  That the score was still in the 40s with six minutes left was not a surprise.  It didn't seem like any of the points came easily for either team.

- My favorite moment came in the waning seconds.  Whitewater missed a potential game-tying three (which was  shot early in the sequence and probably was not the best look they were going to get), and Jack Burchett (in on defense lest Gamble pick up his fifth) grabbed the board with :06 left.  He had the presence of mind to quickly hot-potato the ball to Derek Raridon before Whitewater could foul him.  We all know that free throws are sort of an Adventures with Jack experience, and there was a very real chance that had he been fouled, Whitewater would have gotten a second shot at the game-tying three.  Instead, Raridon hit the back end of his two shots to seal the win.

Kiko's observation leads to the answer to Naperick's question. I realize others may have a different view of the situation, but the play occurred only about 5 feet in front of me.

Rory Cotter had been inserted into the game with only 17 seconds remaining when Eric Bryson fouled out.
Given that the stat sheet indicated he had only played 22 minutes all season, it seemed an odd choice. The reasoning among the other fans I was sitting with was that either Coach Miller subbed him in due to his being a senior possibly playing his last game or that he entered the fray to deliver a (hard?) foul. UWW trailed by 3 at the time.
With 6 seconds left, Darnell Harris missed a three attempt to tie. NCC's Jack Burchett tracked down the long rebound just in bounds, free throw line extended left. Cotter charged hard at Burchett who flicked the ball to the nearby Derek Raridon as Kiko advised. The ball was just out of Burchett's hands when Cotter hit Burchett in the chest with both palms. Raridon caught the short pass a fraction of a second before Burchett was hit, and Derek was immediately fouled. However, Burchett took exception to the blow to the chest and said something to Cotter, who then gave Jack another little shove. A stare down resulted, and it was at that point when the principals were separated by other players from both teams.

ANDONE, thanks for the explanation! 

[Naperick]

3 NESCAC teams left (Middlebury, Amherst, Williams)...all in different quadrants...all hosting in the Sweet 16.

Must be nice!

I agree!  Whitewater and NCC should not have met so early and IWU-NCC should have been an Elite 8 or Final 4 matchup.  I know it is extremely difficult to put a 'balanced' bracket together with all of the restrictions put on the selection committee.  As Titan Q wrote over a week ago, you have to beat good teams to advance.

[Titan Q]

As Titan Q wrote over a week ago, you have to beat good teams to advance.

I'd like to first take the opportunity to agree with myself.

Second, I'll point out that the national committee sends a limousine to pick up the NESCAC each year and bring 'em to Salem...kinda like Tommy Lasorda for Joe Lefebvre and Kurt Bevacqua. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzjWQF1oP2M&feature=player_embedded

[John Gleich]

One final note regarding Saturday's game:  thank you again to Benedictine for the partnership and good neighborliness that enabled the Cardinals to host the game.   It was very much preferred to a scenario that involved traveling to the other side of the Cheddar Curtain.

(And as a small consolation to Whitewater fans, their runners placed fourth in the men's track meet that pushed the game off campus.  The U-Dub hyphens swept the team hardware, with LaCrosse, Oshkosh, Eau Claire, and Whitewater taking the top four spots.  Oshkosh and LaCrosse were also in the top four on the women's side.)

Not that it matters, but UWW would have had difficulty hosting the game. Whitewater was a Women's Regional site (UWW advanced to the Final Four).

Actually, the weekend before, Whitewater men hosted, and their women hosted a pod too.

Remember, the men are playing their games all on Saturdays... so they don't have to compete with the games that occurred on Friday night. Last weekend Whitewater played the men's game first, with the women following later in the afternoon.

BTW, there were several hosts that did this (Amherst and Williams, at the very least, I think).

[ICUI4CU]

I know that Wesleyan and NCC are still in the tourney and this may be a little early to talk about, but does anybody know of any big recruits  that have CCIW written all over them. Im knew on the blog but have followed D3 basketball especially in the CCIW and am always interested in who ends up where.   

[kiko]

Another question for those more familiar with the inner workings of the NCAA............

Given that we are in the national tournament phase of the season, and game details are no longer controlled by the individual schools, would you not think that there would be conformity between game sites?

Specifically, why would tickets have been $8.00 at UWW yesterday, $7.00 at IWU, and only $6.00 at NCC?
Looks like NCC is the more fan friendly institution.     

http://northcentralcardinals.com/news/2013/3/11/MBB_0311131556.aspx

Tickets will be available for sale in the North Central athletics office in Merner Field House from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. Tuesday through Friday and will be $7 for adults and $4 for senior citizens, students and children.


What happened to the fan friendliness?

It's very fan friendly to the Titans' traveling contingent -- you just highlighted the wrong section of text.  I fixed it for you. 

[Gregory Sager]

I'm watching the On Demand from the game last night.  Color man "Coach K" makes the late Ron Santo sound like Vic Scully in terms of broadcasting objectivity.

Ah, yes. Vic Scully ... Vin Scully's also-objective little brother.

Another question for those more familiar with the inner workings of the NCAA............

Given that we are in the national tournament phase of the season, and game details are no longer controlled by the individual schools, would you not think that there would be conformity between game sites?

Specifically, why would tickets have been $8.00 at UWW yesterday, $7.00 at IWU, and only $6.00 at NCC?
Looks like NCC is the more fan friendly institution.     

http://northcentralcardinals.com/news/2013/3/11/MBB_0311131556.aspx

Tickets will be available for sale in the North Central athletics office in Merner Field House from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. Tuesday through Friday and will be $7 for adults and $4 for senior citizens, students and children.


What happened to the fan friendliness?

As far as IWU fans are concerned, it's in the part that I underlined.

It will be interesting to see what NCC does with its floor level seating for Round 3. Will NCC be able to limit the really good seats to NCC alums (other than the end zone seats) as they did in the regular season? Or will IWU be given half of those seats? And who makes the decision, NCC, as the host school, or the NCAA? I have a suggestion. Get rid of the risers and chairs and install some aluminum bleachers with 10-15 rows on the balcony side and divide them up 50/50 to each school. I bet NCC could sell 3500 tickets for the game if capacity was not an issue. NCC has a great b'ball program and Todd Raridon is a class act and one of the best D3 coaches in the country. Too bad he can't convince the NCC administration that it's time to build a new fieldhouse.

God man, call 911 quick! Someone has slipped some mushrooms into your green Kool-Aid. 

Giving half the prime floor seats to the opposition is only going to happen in a galaxy far, far away.
Imagine the ire of NCC boosters, who have paid for those seats, the players parents, and former players who might arrive to find their seats occupied by opposing fans. Ain't gonna happen.
Your question reminds me of the same inquiry made by Tim McCrary's dad during the 2012 CCIW Conference Tourney. Ask Wheaton fans Petemcb and 74 Impala, who both appreciated my answer, what my response was at that time.

With regard to 10-15 rows of bleachers on the north side where the risers and folding chairs now make their domicile, my one question is, Do YOU want to pay for them?

NCC used the last bucket of money it accumulated to build the state of the art Res/REC Center just east of the fieldhouse. This is the facility where the D3 National Indoor Track & Field Championships were held this past weekend. I believe the benefactors who donated the largest sum(s) of money earmarked those funds specifically to go towrd construction of the Res/Rec Center. The next time NCC fills its treasure chest, the funds will almost certainly be used to construct a new science building. A new fieldhouse is, at best, number 2 on the list of future projects. Neither Todd Raridon nor anyone else is going to change the administration's view on this subject. Besides, why fix what works? 

However, it does appear that the Hangar might receive some upgrades as early as next season. At or near the top of the list is permanent seating on the north side across from the team benches, and possibly under the baskets on both ends. These would be seats with backs and armrests. Preliminary discussions have evidently been initiated with the firms who completed work on several arenas with which we are all familiar. Of course, once any plans have been formalized, one must obtain the thousand or so permits the visionaries on the Naperville City Council seem to demand on any worthwhile project.

For the record:  North Park/Wheaton/Kevin Reed fan.  File that under the category of FWIW.

File that under the category of "If I don't set the record straight, my son will never speak to me again."

Massey ratings for the Sweet 16...

Top Left
#4 Calvin
#1 St. Thomas*

#15 Virginia Wesleyan
#14 Williams*

Bottom Left
#21 Mary Hardin-Baylor
#9 Whitworth*

#10 St. Mary's (MD)*
#117 Morrisville State

Top Right
#7 Amherst*
#12 Randolph-Macon

#23 Wooster*
#37 Cabrini

Bottom Right
#5 Illinois Wesleyan
#2 North Central*

#74 Ithaca
#18 Middlebury*

* host


http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&yr=2013&sub=11620

Yikes!

3 NESCAC teams left (Middlebury, Amherst, Williams)...all in different quadrants...all hosting in the Sweet 16.

Must be nice!

Well, to be fair, they're New Englanders and they were here first. Mayflower and Pilgrims and all that stuff ...

(Either Miles Standish or Squanto must've called dibs on the NESCAC getting bracket dispersal.)

As Titan Q wrote over a week ago, you have to beat good teams to advance.

I'd like to first take the opportunity to agree with myself.

Second, I'll point out that the national committee sends a limousine to pick up the NESCAC each year and bring 'em to Salem...kinda like Tommy Lasorda for Joe Lefebvre and Kurt Bevacqua. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzjWQF1oP2M&feature=player_embedded

Bob, Bob, Bob. You smack a double down the line with the Tommy Lasorda reference, but you whiff on the batting-practice fastball that's got "tater" written all over it with that "Vic" Scully reference?