MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[NCF]

Saturday will be IWU's 7th NCAA tournament game vs a D3hoops.com top 3-ranked team in pre-Salem rounds.  All six previous games were on the road too...


2012 (Round 2 @ Hope)
IWU 108
#1 Hope 101 (2OT)

2010 (Round 2 at Wash U)
IWU 75
#1 Wash U 70

2006 (Round 3 at Lawrence)
IWU 71
#1 Lawrence 68

2004 (Round 2 at Hanover)
IWU 77
#2 Hanover 67

2003 (Round 2 at Wash U)
IWU 85
#2 Wash U 73

2001 (Round 4 at Chicago)
IWU 77
#1 Chicago 68


To get to Salem, the Titans will have to keep an amazing streak alive.

Wow, that's very impressive.  Thanks Titan Q for the info. (Though I'll just prefer to look at it as they've never beaten a #3 ranked team before Salem )   Should be interesting in that they are playing a team who has already ended a different impressive streak of theirs this season.

And poised to do it again-we hope

[D-3 watcher]

The seating for Saturday's game might be a little different than the first round game at NCC. Since there are no seats behind the bench, IWU fans might and should get the seats to the right of their bench. That being where the NCC students usually sit, they might flip team benches.

One rule is, that the home teams band, has to be on the same end as the home teams bench. Don't know if a band will be there, but if they are, they will be on their teams end.

I don't know about the chair back seats that stretch all the way from one baseline to the other baseline. But I don't think it's a no brainer that some of those seats won't be reserved for Titan fans.

IWU fans get a chance to buy 600 tickets, I doubt they sell them all. A lot of Titan fans already are up in the city. I do think that IWU will be well represented, as will the home team.

Should be a great game, hopefully great atmosphere as well.

[NCF]

The seating for Saturday's game might be a little different than the first round game at NCC. Since there are no seats behind the bench, IWU fans might and should get the seats to the right of their bench. That being where the NCC students usually sit, they might flip team benches.

One rule is, that the home teams band, has to be on the same end as the home teams bench. Don't know if a band will be there, but if they are, they will be on their teams end.

I don't know about the chair back seats that stretch all the way from one baseline to the other baseline. But I don't think it's a no brainer that some of those seats won't be reserved for Titan fans.

IWU fans get a chance to buy 600 tickets, I doubt they sell them all. A lot of Titan fans already are up in the city. I do think that IWU will be well represented, as will the home team.

Should be a great game, hopefully great atmosphere as well.

North Central begins spring break on Thursday, so not sure how many band members will be in town. Should still be a great atmosphere with or without the band.

[AndOne]

OK, as of today, here is the skinny as to what is what regarding the seating for the NCC/IWU game Sat. Please note that all seating arrangements have been coordinated with the NCAA after consulting the Playoff Host Handbook.
With regard to "fan friendly" pricing, it is noteworthy that, with a $7.00 charge, the price being charged at NCC for a third round game is the same as what IWU charged for a first round game. 
Besides, as has been highly publicized in the last few days, a large percentage of IWU fans will only be paying the senior rate of $4.00 anyway. 

Under NCAA stipulation, fans on the main floor must be seated as closely as possible to their team's bench. As IWU will be occupying the usual visitors bench area, that means the IWU seating area on the main floor will be at the east end of the arena rather than the usual visitors area under the west basket. The IWU fans seated on the main floor will be sitting in the area usually occupied by the NCC students. Conversely, the NCC students will move to the west end bleacher sections. IWU will evidently also have section of bleachers in the NE corner usually used by the NCC pep band. Then, they will have 2 or 3 sections, depending on the size of the sections, under the east basket. The SE corner is usually devoid of seats, but either another section of bleachers or some folding chairs might be brought into that usually open area for additional IWU fan seating which would be  right next to the IWU bench.
As usual, the black folding chairs on the north sideline will be reserved for NCC boosters, alums, current player's parents, and former players. NCC will have a bleacher section immediately west of those seats. Another section of bleachers will be positioned  diagonally across the NW corner, and will be occupied by the NCC pep band, however many may be present considering spring break begins Thursday. NCC will then have the usual visitors bleacher sections under the west basket as well as possibly either another section of bleachers or some folding chairs diagonally across the SW corner, another usually vacant area.
The balcony will be apportioned in accordance with the  1/3-2/3s decree with 400 seats going to IWU, and 800 to NCC fans. 

It will be interesting to see how many students attend, considering both schools will be on spring break. NCC break just begins Thursday. IWU break ends Monday.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Saturday will be IWU's 7th NCAA tournament game vs a D3hoops.com top 3-ranked team in pre-Salem rounds.  All six previous games were on the road too...


2012 (Round 2 @ Hope)
IWU 108
#1 Hope 101 (2OT)

2010 (Round 2 at Wash U)
IWU 75
#1 Wash U 70

2006 (Round 3 at Lawrence)
IWU 71
#1 Lawrence 68

2004 (Round 2 at Hanover)
IWU 77
#2 Hanover 67

2003 (Round 2 at Wash U)
IWU 85
#2 Wash U 73

2001 (Round 4 at Chicago)
IWU 77
#1 Chicago 68


To get to Salem, the Titans will have to keep an amazing streak alive.

WOW!  Nice compilation, Bob - I would doubt any other d3 team can match six consecutive road wins (NOT neutral) against #1 and #2 ranked teams in the tourney!

Of course, ALL streaks end sometime, and I DO worry about SevenTen's riposte: the streak doesn't include any #3 teams (on the other hand, that means that even if we don't win Saturday, the streak against top 2 teams is still alive ).

(I remembered all those wins, but didn't realize there were NO losses.)

SevenTen, IWU can also break streaks: Wooster has won 12 of their last 13 NCAA tourney home games; I well remember the one they lost last spring!

A fully-healthy NCC is undoubtedly the favorite on Saturday, but I can promise you that the Titans WILL show up, they WILL compete, and THEY WILL WIN.  (I hope.)

(OK, trash-talking is not my strong suit! )

[veterancciwfan]

Regarding seating, I think that 1/3 of the chair seats normally reserved for NCC alums, parents & fans will be allocated to IWU. I could be wrong.

Here is how the remaning 16 were ranked in the last D3 Hoops poll:

1) #12 Calvin @ #1 St. Thomas
2) #25 @ #8 Williams
3) Unranked Mary Hardin-Baylor at #6 Whitworth (a long flight to Spokane). I estimate the odds of MH-B winning at Atlanta at a minimum of 5,000 to 1.
4) Unranked Morrisville State @ #11 St. Mary's
5) Unranked Randolph-Macon @ #2 Amherst
6) Unranked Cabrini @ #20 Wooster. Actually, Cabrini was ranked 30 based on votes received. There must be page devoted in the D3 championship manual that decrees that Wooster, even when ranked #20, will always play their games at home. I think Cabrini has a good chance to win this game.
7) #10 IWU @ #3 NCC (IWU is the highest ranked team to play on the road-No big surprise in the bracket of death)
8) Unranked Ithica @ #7 Middlebury

5 of the 16 are unranked (if you include Cabrini in that category). All 3 NESCAC play at home and only 1 plays a ranked team. Oh the joy of playing D3 b'ball on the east coast (or vicinity thereof).

[veterancciwfan]

Some of the stats from the NCC/IWU game at NCC on Feb. 19:

1) IWU outrebounded NCC 41 to 31. That's huge advantage. Just as Ron Rose predicted, the RB winner at St. Louis (IWU 40 WU 39) won the game. IWU stats show them with 39.7 RB per game and RB margin of 9.6 per game. Kevin Reed and Victor Davis have been RB machines in the 2 NCAA games.
2) NCC outshot IWU 48.3% (28/58) to 44.1 % (26/59).
3) IWU had 16 TOs (too many) while NCC had only 7. I believe that how the game is officiated is a key. Will the refs allow a lot of pushing, shoving and hand contact, especially when Overstreet and NCC's point guards have the ball?
4) IWU shot only 69.4 (25/36) at the line (their season avg. is only .673) while NCC was 69.4 (25/36) (their season avg. was .663 before the CCIW tournament). I think one of the keys is for IWU to minimize Raridon's FT attempts (a .764 FT%) and for NCC to do the same for Zimmer (a .825 FT%).

My prediction: No reason to think this game won't be determined until the final minute, probably the final shot. It's a shame that the CCIW didn't have 2 teams in opposite brackets. I know, they could have but only if the #3 CCIW team could beat the #1 team at St. Paul in Round 2.

[Naperick]

Saturday will be IWU's 7th NCAA tournament game vs a D3hoops.com top 3-ranked team in pre-Salem rounds.  All six previous games were on the road too...


2012 (Round 2 @ Hope)
IWU 108
#1 Hope 101 (2OT)

2010 (Round 2 at Wash U)
IWU 75
#1 Wash U 70

2006 (Round 3 at Lawrence)
IWU 71
#1 Lawrence 68

2004 (Round 2 at Hanover)
IWU 77
#2 Hanover 67

2003 (Round 2 at Wash U)
IWU 85
#2 Wash U 73

2001 (Round 4 at Chicago)
IWU 77
#1 Chicago 68


To get to Salem, the Titans will have to keep an amazing streak alive.

An incredible streak!  Wow!

[iwumichigander]

OK, as of today, here is the skinny as to what is what regarding the seating for the NCC/IWU game Sat. Please note that all seating arrangements have been coordinated with the NCAA after consulting the Playoff Host Handbook.
With regard to "fan friendly" pricing, it is noteworthy that, with a $7.00 charge, the price being charged at NCC for a third round game is the same as what IWU charged for a first round game. 
Besides, as has been highly publicized in the last few days, a large percentage of IWU fans will only be paying the senior rate of $4.00 anyway.  8-)is

Does the $4.00 include a senior coffee?

[iwu70]

To me, keys to the game for IWU:  win the RB battle, shoot a good percentage, get some early treys to stretch the floor, and have the right guy on the FT line at the key moments -- Overstreet, Zimmer, or Sodemann, and, of late, Davis.    Gotta RB it bigtime, use the IWU bigs to pound and pound and pound.  Win the bench scoring battle.  Give Dortch his key defensive assignment and perhaps 15-20 minutes on the floor.  IWU is deeper so the foul situation may come in to play late.  IWU has to find a way to deny the ball to Gamble in the post area.  Raridon will get his, but Titans have to limit the others. 

Should be a great game, a true CCIW rubber match for the season (tourney champ vs. regular season champ!), and a fitting championship game for the "bracket of death," and, frankly, for the D3 tournament as a whole.  As so many have said, really too bad they have to meet in the third round.  (And to think teams of the quality and record of Wash U and Whitewater are already sitting at home). 

I see IWU winning this game by a point or two, perhaps in OT.  As usual, best for the Titans to get the game into the 70s. 

Sounds like a good seating/hosting plan.  Hope the Green gang, IWU crowd is large, noisy and very raucous.     Spring break cuts into the student crowds on both sides.  Sure hope the IWU alumni office, athletic department  are working hard to get out the Titan faithful from the Chicago area for this game.

Another great weekend of D3 hoops upcoming.

IWU70

[Gregory Sager]

OK, as of today, here is the skinny as to what is what regarding the seating for the NCC/IWU game Sat. Please note that all seating arrangements have been coordinated with the NCAA after consulting the Playoff Host Handbook.
With regard to "fan friendly" pricing, it is noteworthy that, with a $7.00 charge, the price being charged at NCC for a third round game is the same as what IWU charged for a first round game. 
Besides, as has been highly publicized in the last few days, a large percentage of IWU fans will only be paying the senior rate of $4.00 anyway.  8-)is

Does the $4.00 include a senior coffee?

It'd better. The fan bus contingent needs something to dip those funeral-home doughnuts into.

[iwufans]

Q, Probably wrong here...but what was Elmhurst ranked in 2001?  I know they were not the home team, but I thought they were ranked #1 or #2 in the country at that time.  I was thinking it was #1 and the next night we beat what would have been the next highest ranked team...Chicago.  Refresh my memory, please.

[Titan Q]

Q, Probably wrong here...but what was Elmhurst ranked in 2001?  I know they were not the home team, but I thought they were ranked #1 or #2 in the country at that time.  I was thinking it was #1 and the next night we beat what would have been the next highest ranked team...Chicago.  Refresh my memory, please.

IWU played Elmhurst on 3/10/01 at U. of Chicago's Henry Crown Field House - the Bluejays were ranked #9.  The next night IWU beat the host Maroons, ranked #1, to advance to Salem.

http://sun.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/mbb2001/o3901m.htm

http://sun.iwu.edu/~iwunews/sports/mbb2001/031001m.htm

[iwufans]

I knew I could count on you, Q.  It was an incredible run and a fun experience that weekend.

[AndOne]

Regarding seating, I think that 1/3 of the chair seats normally reserved for NCC alums, parents & fans will be allocated to IWU. I could be wrong.

Here is how the remaning 16 were ranked in the last D3 Hoops poll:

1) #12 Calvin @ #1 St. Thomas
2) #25 @ #8 Williams
3) Unranked Mary Hardin-Baylor at #6 Whitworth (a long flight to Spokane). I estimate the odds of MH-B winning at Atlanta at a minimum of 5,000 to 1.
4) Unranked Morrisville State @ #11 St. Mary's
5) Unranked Randolph-Macon @ #2 Amherst
6) Unranked Cabrini @ #20 Wooster. Actually, Cabrini was ranked 30 based on votes received. There must be page devoted in the D3 championship manual that decrees that Wooster, even when ranked #20, will always play their games at home. I think Cabrini has a good chance to win this game.
7) #10 IWU @ #3 NCC (IWU is the highest ranked team to play on the road-No big surprise in the bracket of death)
8) Unranked Ithica @ #7 Middlebury

5 of the 16 are unranked (if you include Cabrini in that category). All 3 NESCAC play at home and only 1 plays a ranked team. Oh the joy of playing D3 b'ball on the east coast (or vicinity thereof).

Veteran----

Point #1---
I can assure you that I did not take the information I disseminated with regard to seating arrangements lightly.
Before providing the information, I met with the NCC AD who, previous to our meeting, had spoken with the NCAA. The black folding chairs will not be divided. There are 2 things to remember---IWU fans are probably going to have a section of seats that are usually not present for games. This could be an extra section under the east basket, or could very well be a section of bleachers at the end of the Wesleyan bench. Details are still being worked out. Should it be decided temporary seating will be added in this area and no bleacher sections are available, folding chairs may be used in this area.
Keep in mind the 2/3-1/3 rule is applicable to the total number of seats. Not each individual section.

Point #2---

I hear you loud and and clear with regard to the scheduling of the remaining teams, and agree fully. The chart previously furnished by TQ clearly illustrates the inherent inequity of the 3rd round bracket scheduling. Its very hard to understand how the NCAA can be OK with great teams in the middle of the country beating each other up in the Bracket Of Death yet placing 3 NESCAC teams in different brackets, AND allowing all 3 to play at home. And I know about the 500 mile rule and all the other stuff, but I wish someone could explain where the fairness is in forcing teams like IWU and NCC (Massey #s 2 and 5), both Elite Eight quality teams and possibly Final Four quality teams, to play each other when St Mary's MD (#10) gets to play the Massey #117 team, #23 Wooster gets to play #37, and #18 Middlebury gets #74? I mean this is the D3 National Tournament. Its important!
Just asking with the hopes that asking what seems a legitimate question is not grounds for crucifixion, but might bring an understandable answer as I'm pretty much lost here. Thank you.