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iwu70

Yes, I heard the terrible news about Overstreet earlier today.  That's a huge blow for the Titans as they are currently most thin at PG.  But, guess some guys have to step up, and some different rotations, schemes come into play.  I would think Dolan and Nelms get the time at PG while Overstreet is recovering.  Some talk around here of Sodemann playing some PG, or even Brady Zimmer, if he is truly ready.  Can't imagine that, but we'll see.  My guess would be Dolan, then Sodemann with Rossi starting at the 2.  Nelms backing the PG up.  Sure wish Jordan Nelson was recovered sooner, to get some of this playing time at PG during Overstreet's recovery.  I guess it's better that this happened now, than in four weeks at the beginning of the conference race.  Overstreet had a monster game last Saturday, perhaps his best ever.  Let's hope he's a good, fast healer.

The Titan injury roster gets longer:  Nelson, Marietti, Heyen, Zimmer? (perhaps coming off), now Overstreet.   :(

Let's see what Ron Rose cooks up for Coe and Loras this weekend. 

IWU70

Gregory Sager

Quote from: robberki on November 21, 2013, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 21, 2013, 04:18:28 PM
Quote from: Captain_Joe08 on November 19, 2013, 11:23:37 PM
Wisconsin Lutheran beats North Park 89-83. Aaron Weaver led the Vikings with a game high 25 points.

No, he didn't. Weaver did score 25, but the scoring leader for the game was NPU freshman Juwan Henry, who had 31 points on 12-19 shooting from the field. He also had eight steals, which ties the school record set by Danny James against Bethel in 1989-90. Henry also had a very tidy 3:0 assist:turnover ratio.

It was a dismal affair. The young Vikings were again badly outplayed for a good chunk of the game, and the rebounding bulge in favor of WLC was a truly horrible 48-24. North Park is just getting eaten alive on the boards. It's not really fair to pin the blame for that on Nate Rummel, because, as hard as he tries, he's basically just a role player with a very limited game. And the freshman bigs are much too raw to contribute anything at the varsity level as of yet. But it's not just about the bigs. Nobody's hitting the boards at all for NPU -- and nobody's boxing out, either.

The lone bright spot, aside from the scoreboard heroics of Henry and Weaver, was the six-and-a-half-minute sequence in the second half in which the Vikings simply stole the ball at will from WLC at the top of the key or at halfcourt, turning an 11-point deficit at the 17:31 mark to a four-point lead with 11 minutes to go on the strength of ten steals out of the 16 possessions that WLC had in that sequence. It was really something to see. Seven of those ten steals were by Henry. NPU has several freshman who might amount to something in this league, but Juwan Henry is clearly already a CCIW-caliber player.

Unfortunately, the Vikings expended too much energy on that comeback, and the Warriors slowly prevailed down the stretch. A lot of shots by the Vikings late in the game fell short, the time-honored sign of a weary team. That's the problem with coming back from being down by double digits in the second half -- you often just plain run out of steam at the end, even if you catch your opponent, because you had to work that much harder on defense than you would've under normal circumstances.

For the most part, though, it was just an unpleasant loss to an opponent that should never beat a CCIW squad, but which has now beaten North Park two years in a row. This is going to be the fourth straight season in which the Vikings are not going to be competitive. It's just plain tough to watch. Plus, I had to call the game while nursing a cold, which wasn't much fun, either. :(

....and your partner was MIA as well!

Yes, and I keep sending get-well shout-outs on the air to my partner as well. I hope that he's listening. ;)
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

toooldtohoop

Quote from: Iwufan on November 21, 2013, 08:02:32 PM
IWU Brady Zimmer could play this weekend

Dylan Overstreet out 3-4 weeks with torn mcl suffered at practice Wednesday

Sorry to hear about Overstreet's injury.  Hope he can come back soon and at full strength. 
 


AndOne

#34893
Quote from: Iwufan on November 21, 2013, 08:02:32 PM
IWU Brady Zimmer could play this weekend

Dylan Overstreet out 3-4 weeks with torn mcl suffered at practice Wednesday

Since the mcl is not inside the knee joint, it has a good blood supply and usually responds well to non-surgical treatment. Depending on how bad the injury is, it may be enough to rest the knee, wear a brace, take over the counter pain medication, and have physical therapy.

Rehab may be able to started within a few days to restore strength and normal range of motion. Depending on the seriousness of the injury, complete recovery may take anywhere from one to eight weeks after rehab is initiated.

If surgery is necessary, it is usually done through a small incision on the inside of the knee rather than arthroscopically..

veterancciwfan

Looking at the boxscore from Platteville, it seems Augie had the same problem as usual, lack of shooting and scoring. It's pretty hard to win games scoring less than 60 points, which Augie does fairly consistently, especially on the road. I realize one of their better players had the flu. Grey is a great defensive coach, offensive-not so much. Zimmer might see limited PT this weekend. I imagine Overstreet will be OK no later than the beginning of conference season.

Kovacevic

FROM TODAY'S KENOSHA NEWS ...

Carthage arrives at check point

New rules could benefit Red Men


BY ANDREW HORSCHAK
ahorschak@kenoshanews.com


Tweeeeeeet!
Fouls and free throws have taken center stage in the early portion of the college basketball season.
With officials now supposed to pay closer attention to hand checking, defenders can no longer guard with their hands or body up an opponent.
More whistles have resulted in more free-throw attempts and higher scoring, drawn-out games.
A benefit to Carthage
The new hand-check restrictions and less physical play should benefit teams like Carthage, which has relied on athleticism over brute force in recent years.
"It should help us," acknowledged 18th-year-coach Bosko Djurickovic, whose team tips off the season against Alma (Mich.) in the first round of the Carthage Classic 8 p.m. Friday at Tarble Arena.
"Like any coach at this stage, I just don't know how it's going to be called. We've had two scrimmages. In the first one, the officials tried to take it by what the new rule is and there were 82 free throws shot. We're hoping that it gets handled consistently. That's all you can ask for. If it's called the same way every night, then we'll make the kids adjust to it. If it's not, then it's really hard to deal with.
"Even non-physical teams hand-check. I was hoping that they would clean up a little bit more of the inside game because the game has gotten very rough. There's been very little free flow. Guys just absolutely wrestle on the boards. I think that's hurt us a little bit. I think if it's called a little closer I think that should help us, but who knows until the games get started."
Coming off a 12-13 season (7-7 CCIW), the Red Men plan on utilizing a three-guard lineup with returning starters Reese Herth and Donte Logan — both juniors — and senior Kevin Sykes Jr. in 2013-14.
Herth, the team's leading returning scorer at 11.2 points per game, made a team-best 35 3-pointers last season. Logan, who has started at point guard in 43 games in two seasons, averaged 8.3 points and 5.0 assists as a sophomore.
After seeing action in 44 games off the bench in the last two seasons, Sykes could see himself in an increased role in his senior campaign.
"Just a really good all-around basketball player," Djurickovic said. "If you were going to take a look at a guy in the building who does everything the most consistently it may very well be Kevin Sykes. He's a good defensive player. He's a good facilitator. He's a good shooter. He's had some good moments for us."
Marlon Senior (7.6 ppg, 5.6 rpg) also returns to the starting lineup and is poised for a big senior campaign.
"He continues to improve and get better," Djurickovic said about the 6-foot-5 forward.
Kastel to help inside
Rounding out the starting lineup will be intriguing newcomer Mike Kastel, a 6-foot-7, 235-pound center who is expected to make his biggest impact on the glass.
A native of St. Charles, Ill., Kastel attended Exeter Academy in New Hampshire and chose to play college football — first at the University of Delaware before transferring to Northwest Missouri State.
"He goes and gets rebounds better than anybody that we've had in a while," Djurickovic said. "That is a big addition for us. He continues to get better. We're still trying to knock some of the rust off."
Top returning players are junior Cameron Van Wyk and sophomores Ellis Matthews, Myles Olsen and Sean Valentine. The 6-foot-6 Van Wyk started in 10 games last season.
Scott McNellis, an athletic 6-foot-5 forward from Downers Grove South, is the team's top freshman and is expected to be in the regular rotation. Jason Scott, a 6-foot-4 freshman, should also see minutes.
Kelly could return
The Red Men could receive a boost when senior guard Malcom Kelly becomes eligible to play after the fall semester. A first-team All-CCIW performer in 2012, the Reuther graduate did not play last season after enlisting in the U.S. Army reserves. The 27-year-old Kelly ranks 25th on Carthage's career scoring list with 1,045 points. He is also third in both 3-point field goals made (174) and attempted (453). His 72 3-pointers in 2012 are the third-most in a single season by a Carthage player.
Kelly is expected make his return against UW-Platteville on Dec. 14.
Carthage will play what Djurickovic called one of the top non-conference schedules in the country before trying to snag a spot in the four-team CCIW Tournament for only the second time in nine years. It will be a daunting task considering that three CCIW teams — Illinois Wesleyan (No. 2), Wheaton (No. 5) and North Central (No. 6) — were ranked in the top six in the D3hoops.com preseason poll.
"It's a great league as it always is," Djurickovic said. "We have a couple of teams that have a chance to make a deep run in the national tournament."

Gregory Sager

Quote from: AndOne on November 21, 2013, 09:48:45 PM
Since the mcl is not inside the knee joint, it has a good blood supply and usually responds well to non-surgical treatment. Depending on how bad the injury is, it may be enough to rest the knee, wear a brace, take over the counter pain medication, and have physical therapy.

Rehab may be able to started within a few days to restore strength and normal range of motion. Depending on the seriousness of the injury, complete recovery may take anywhere from one to eight weeks after rehab is initiated.

If surgery is necessary, it is usually done through a small incision on the inside of the knee rather than arthroscopically..

Humble insurance investigator by day, at night he reveals his hidden identity ... as Dr. Oz. ;)

Quote from: veterancciwfan on November 21, 2013, 09:50:05 PM
Looking at the boxscore from Platteville, it seems Augie had the same problem as usual, lack of shooting and scoring. It's pretty hard to win games scoring less than 60 points, which Augie does fairly consistently, especially on the road. I realize one of their better players had the flu.

Let's be fair to Giovanine (a phrase I admittedly don't use too often). Schlitter is a hard guy to replace. He was more replaceable last year when Giovanine had veterans Kunz and Dexter as lane beef. Yes, Nic Hoepfner's had some nice moments in limited time last season, but it appears that he didn't have any on Tuesday -- and Grey, for the first time in years, seemingly had nowhere else to turn from what had once been a bottomless supply of big men.

Quote from: Kovacevic on November 21, 2013, 10:42:02 PM
FROM TODAY'S KENOSHA NEWS ...

Carthage arrives at check point

New rules could benefit Red Men


For the sake of my old friend the Serbian Prince, I hope that he's not counting upon the kindness of men of the zebra persuasion to pull his team's chestnuts out of the fire this season.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Titan Q

Hated to hear about Dylan Overstreet's injury.  His play last year, when he earned 1st Team all-CCIW honors, was a huge reason the Titans went 13-1 in the CCIW and won a title.  He is a good PG and just a really good leader.  I hope he gets back soon.

It's clearly Bryce Dolan's job now.  Dolan should get plenty of great 3-point looks in IWU's offense -- he'll have a chance to score some points as a starter.

Great to get Brady Zimmer back - that's some serious offensive fire power back in the rotation.

Titan Q

#34898
Illinois Wesleyan @ Coe (6:00pm)...


Illinois Wesleyan (2-0)
G - Bryan Dolan, 6-0/160 So
G - Pat Sodemann, 6-3/195 Jr
F - Andrew Ziemnk, 6-5/220 Sr
F - Victor Davis, 6-5/235 Sr
C - Nick Anderson, 6-10/230 Sr

G - Alex Rossi, 6-5/200 Jr
F - Mike Mayberger, 6-6/205 Sr
G - Brian Nelms, 5-11/175 So
F - Eric Dortch, 6-4/210 Sr
G - Brady Zimmer, 6-4/180 Sr


Coe (1-0)
G - Andrew Wirth, 6-0/190 Sr
G - Max Schmarzo, 6-2/180 Jr
G - Matt Daoust, 6-4/195 Jr
F - JT Vonderhaar, 6-5/190 Jr
F - Christian Fahey, 6-6/220 So

F - Sam Stix, 6-7/191 Jr
G - Matt Vonderhaar, 6-4/200 Fr
G - Jacob Timm, 6-1/173 So
G - Sean Pyritz, 6-0/173 Jr
F - Cale Thrulsen, 6-9/220 Fr


Coe site - http://www.coeathletics.com./sport/0/1.php

Video/Live Stats - http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/coe.portal#

WJBC radio - http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/wjbc.portal#

Iwufan

Overtreet begins rehab on Monday and on the best end is ready to play some against Wash U on Dec 7th on the other end by Franklin or maybe up at Hope.

IWU has a great training staff, especially Adam, and he will make sure that Dylan does what is needed and does not come back too soon.

Dolan will do great as the point guard.   This will give him a lot of playing time so when the get back into CCIW play, and assuming Dylan is 100% they will be much deeper at the 1 spot.  Nelms will have to be ready to play and others may have to step into the 1 spot if fouls become a problem.

wheels81

#34900
Quote from: AndOne on November 19, 2013, 10:45:25 PM


The fact Loras lost to Rockford at home makes their win over the Wheaties even that much more remarkable.
According to the play by play, Tyler Peters turned the ball over with 35 seconds left and Wheaton up by 1. Nate Haynes then committed a foul with 8 seconds left. Loras' Nathaniel Smith converted both shots for the 74-73 win. Tyler Peter then missed a layup at the buzzer.

The jury is still out---way out---on Berg.

Here we go again :P  If you were on the jury it would be over.  You must have a thing for him

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"I am what I am"  PTSM

AndOne

#34901
Quote from: AndOne on November 19, 2013, 10:45:25 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on November 19, 2013, 10:19:23 PM
Here is the Wheaton/Loras box...

http://www.duhawks.com/stats/2013-14/Basketball%20M/g02-whea.htm


* Wheaton got points from one player off the bench - guard Michael Kvam (9 pts).

* Starting PF Michael Berg had 2 points and 2 rebounds in 24 minutes.

Loras lost at home to Rockford a few days ago.


The fact Loras lost to Rockford at home makes their win over the Wheaties even that much more remarkable.
According to the play by play, Tyler Peters turned the ball over with 35 seconds left and Wheaton up by 1. Nate Haynes then committed a foul with 8 seconds left. Loras' Nathaniel Smith converted both shots for the 74-73 win. Tyler Peter then missed a layup at the buzzer.

The jury is still out---way out---on Berg.

Quote from: wheels81 on November 22, 2013, 12:39:55 PM
Quote from: AndOne on November 19, 2013, 10:45:25 PM

The fact Loras lost to Rockford at home makes their win over the Wheaties even that much more remarkable.
According to the play by play, Tyler Peters turned the ball over with 35 seconds left and Wheaton up by 1. Nate Haynes then committed a foul with 8 seconds left. Loras' Nathaniel Smith converted both shots for the 74-73 win. Tyler Peter then missed a layup at the buzzer.

The jury is still out---way out---on Berg.

Here we go again :P  If you were on the jury it would be over.  You must have a thing for him

Wheels81--

Here we go again is right. However, the primary re-occurant theme we're seeing is your failure to tell the whole story by neglecting to include my entire original post, which I have now done. Your attempt to paint me as the lone bad guy in your scenario is transparent.
My observation that the jury is still out on Mr. Berg was a reaction to Titan Q's observation that "Starting PF Michael Berg had 2 points and 2 rebounds in 24 minutes." Evidently, I'm not the only poster who has noticed Mr. Berg's as yet failure to thrive (to borrow a medical term) in his career.

When Michael Berg entered the CCIW, he was accompanied by such a voluminous composition of publicity that one would think he could practically walk on water. However, during his freshman campaign last season, he averaged only 2.8 rpg and 4.1 ppg. His conference only stats were even south of those marks at 2.0 rpg and 3.4 ppg. To lead off the current season he tallied 11 boards and 10 points against Blackburn. Against stiffer competition in Wittenberg, it was 1 rebound and 4 points. And in the loss to Loras, the 2 rebounds and 2 points as reported by Titan Q.

I'm sorry, but I just don't think he has lived up to all the hype that accompanied his arrival on the college scene. Given the statistics referenced above, how can you deny that the jury is, indeed, still out on Mr. Berg?
And let me also be very clear in stating I do think he has the potential to be a good player for the orange team. But is he there yet, no. And i think most observers who follow WC and the CCIW closely would agree.

All it will take for me to stop mentioning even slightly critical commentary of Mr. Berg is for 2 things to occur:
1. You stop ragging me for doing nothing more than others have done in pointing out the facts, and telling the truth, and;
2. Mr. Berg to start consistently performing at the level that was widely expected of him when he embarked on his WC basketball journey.  :)

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AndOne

Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 21, 2013, 11:24:58 PM
Quote from: AndOne on November 21, 2013, 09:48:45 PM
Since the mcl is not inside the knee joint, it has a good blood supply and usually responds well to non-surgical treatment. Depending on how bad the injury is, it may be enough to rest the knee, wear a brace, take over the counter pain medication, and have physical therapy.

Rehab may be able to started within a few days to restore strength and normal range of motion. Depending on the seriousness of the injury, complete recovery may take anywhere from one to eight weeks after rehab is initiated.

If surgery is necessary, it is usually done through a small incision on the inside of the knee rather than arthroscopically..

Humble insurance investigator by day, at night he reveals his hidden identity ... as Dr. Oz. ;)


Thank you Greg.
While fault with my observations and analysis on D3Hoops/D3Football can sometimes certainly be found, I do have an unblemished record with regard to my medical analysis and testimony in court cases involving medical fraud, murder,
and all other forms of larceny in either the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd degree.  ;)   :D   ::)

iwu70

He shall henceforth be known as "Dr. AndOne,"  -- though not sure I would want my doctor to foul me first, then have "AndOne" later.  For Overstreet's sake, I hope the prognosis expounded by several here and at IWU of about 2-3 weeks of rehab, no surgery, and a pretty full recovery by Wash U or Franklin -- well, that would be a very good outcome.  Dolan gets to taste the starting, varsity medicine big time tonight in Iowa vs. Coe, tomorrow vs. Loras.  Sounds like Zimmer is indeed ready to rock and roll today, too. 

GO TITANS -- give Coe and Loras their medicine.

IWU70

Titan Q

#34904
Half in Cedar Rapids:

IWU 63
Coe 24

* Ziemnik: 18 pts, 6 reb, 2 assists
* Davis: 15 pts, 7 reb, 3 assists
* Sodemann: 11 pts, 2 reb, 2 assists

IWU: 25-38 FG, 12-18 3-point

Rebounds: IWU 27 Coe 10