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Gregory Sager

Quote from: wheels81 on December 17, 2013, 09:47:38 AM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on December 17, 2013, 08:22:49 AM
Quote from: WheatonFanChris on December 16, 2013, 08:16:10 PM
Quote from: izzy stradlin on December 16, 2013, 07:34:25 PM
Anyone know what happened to Michael Kvam of Wheaton?   I only caught the end of Saturday's game and during the post-game interview it sounded like he is out indefinitely with Schauer saying he went through the most difficult 48 hours he has ever went through as a head coach??  Sounded very serious.

I don't know any details, but from what I've heard, Kwam is off the team by coach's decision. Sounds like a disciplinary issue.

I heard he talked to a girl outside Wheaton authorized hours.
Oh that's so funny and original please continue more with those "sharp" barbs of wit.

It's always amusing to hear gibes from people who know next to nothing about Wheaton College. The uninformed invariably think of it as a cross between a monastery and Devil's Island. The reality is that Wheaton's rules are not really restrictive at all by the general standards of evangelical schools, nor is the school particularly conservative by evangelical standards. In fact, I've heard my fundamentalist-preacher uncle say more than once what a hopelessly liberal (translation: "useless and untrustworthy") institution Wheaton is. And his is a very common opinion on the theological right wing of evangelicaldom. (It goes without saying, of course, that North Park is a factory for the devil's work in my uncle's opinion.)

You won't find non-stop weekend boozefests or frat bacchanals at Wheaton. But the social life and campus ethos of Wheaton is thoroughly unremarkable and quite moderate as far as Christian colleges go -- and Christian colleges represent a pretty significant minority within American higher education.

(Of course, Wheaton has loosened up considerably over the past few decades, from everything that I've been told.)
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

AppletonRocks

Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 18, 2013, 05:14:38 PM
NPU fell at home to Benedictine, 71-54. Just an absolutely awful loss against a thoroughly unremarkable BU squad. Juwan Henry had 26 points, but 22 of them were in the first half. Nobody else on the team played well at all. In the second half, the Vikings only managed to make six field goals and score 17 points. They played absolutely terrible basketball over that final twenty minutes -- and it wasn't as though they were playing UWSP, or anybody even remotely of that caliber.

The Vikings are terribly crippled by youth and a lack of size, of course, but the problems don't end there. This is turning out to be an epically dismal season for NPU, even by the low standards set over the past three years.

Since their season is dismal per your edict, are they getting any academic value or learning any life skills or pray tell, both?  ;)
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Gregory Sager

Boy, I sure hope so. Otherwise, they're wasting a lot of time and money. ;)
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Kovo

Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 18, 2013, 06:08:52 PM
Quote from: wheels81 on December 17, 2013, 09:47:38 AM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on December 17, 2013, 08:22:49 AM
Quote from: WheatonFanChris on December 16, 2013, 08:16:10 PM
Quote from: izzy stradlin on December 16, 2013, 07:34:25 PM
Anyone know what happened to Michael Kvam of Wheaton?   I only caught the end of Saturday's game and during the post-game interview it sounded like he is out indefinitely with Schauer saying he went through the most difficult 48 hours he has ever went through as a head coach??  Sounded very serious.

I don't know any details, but from what I've heard, Kwam is off the team by coach's decision. Sounds like a disciplinary issue.

I heard he talked to a girl outside Wheaton authorized hours.
Oh that's so funny and original please continue more with those "sharp" barbs of wit.

It's always amusing to hear gibes from people who know next to nothing about Wheaton College. The uninformed invariably think of it as a cross between a monastery and Devil's Island. The reality is that Wheaton's rules are not really restrictive at all by the general standards of evangelical schools, nor is the school particularly conservative by evangelical standards. In fact, I've heard my fundamentalist-preacher uncle say more than once what a hopelessly liberal (translation: "useless and untrustworthy") institution Wheaton is. And his is a very common opinion on the theological right wing of evangelicaldom. (It goes without saying, of course, that North Park is a factory for the devil's work in my uncle's opinion.)

You won't find non-stop weekend boozefests or frat bacchanals at Wheaton. But the social life and campus ethos of Wheaton is thoroughly unremarkable and quite moderate as far as Christian colleges go -- and Christian colleges represent a pretty significant minority within American higher education.

(Of course, Wheaton has loosened up considerably over the past few decades, from everything that I've been told.)

All true.  But, by reputation at least, isn't it fair to say that Wheaton is viewed as having a much stricter conduct code than many of the other CCIW institutions?

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Kovo on December 19, 2013, 10:48:39 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 18, 2013, 06:08:52 PM
Quote from: wheels81 on December 17, 2013, 09:47:38 AM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on December 17, 2013, 08:22:49 AM
Quote from: WheatonFanChris on December 16, 2013, 08:16:10 PM
Quote from: izzy stradlin on December 16, 2013, 07:34:25 PM
Anyone know what happened to Michael Kvam of Wheaton?   I only caught the end of Saturday's game and during the post-game interview it sounded like he is out indefinitely with Schauer saying he went through the most difficult 48 hours he has ever went through as a head coach??  Sounded very serious.

I don't know any details, but from what I've heard, Kwam is off the team by coach's decision. Sounds like a disciplinary issue.

I heard he talked to a girl outside Wheaton authorized hours.
Oh that's so funny and original please continue more with those "sharp" barbs of wit.

It's always amusing to hear gibes from people who know next to nothing about Wheaton College. The uninformed invariably think of it as a cross between a monastery and Devil's Island. The reality is that Wheaton's rules are not really restrictive at all by the general standards of evangelical schools, nor is the school particularly conservative by evangelical standards. In fact, I've heard my fundamentalist-preacher uncle say more than once what a hopelessly liberal (translation: "useless and untrustworthy") institution Wheaton is. And his is a very common opinion on the theological right wing of evangelicaldom. (It goes without saying, of course, that North Park is a factory for the devil's work in my uncle's opinion.)

You won't find non-stop weekend boozefests or frat bacchanals at Wheaton. But the social life and campus ethos of Wheaton is thoroughly unremarkable and quite moderate as far as Christian colleges go -- and Christian colleges represent a pretty significant minority within American higher education.

(Of course, Wheaton has loosened up considerably over the past few decades, from everything that I've been told.)

All true.  But, by reputation at least, isn't it fair to say that Wheaton is viewed as having a much stricter conduct code than many of the other CCIW institutions?

Oh, absolutely. But the point is that it's viewed as having a much stricter conduct code than it actually has.

The more relaxed code currently in place at Wheaton has caused North Park students no small amount of consternation. NPU first allowed dancing on campus back in 1970, and for decades afterward dancing was the primary difference between the two schools in terms of their conduct codes; generations of North Park students would chant, "Let's go dancing!" at the conclusion of every NPU vs. WC athletic event, and they'd sing the 1983 Wang Chung hit "Safety Dance" ("We can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind / 'cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance, then they're no friends of mine"). Since Wheaton College finally decided to allow dancing on campus about a dozen years ago, those tried-and-true staples of NPU's Wheaton taunting have gone the way of the dodo and the passenger pigeon.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

madzillagd

Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 19, 2013, 05:33:47 PM
and they'd sing the 1983 Wang Chung hit "Safety Dance" ("We can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind / 'cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance, then they're no friends of mine").

I hate myself already for posting this but "Safety Dance" was Men Without Hats.  Wang Chung was "Everybody have Fun Tonight"    I'm going to go shed a tear for myself in the corner now.  :'(

Gregory Sager

Quote from: madzillagd on December 19, 2013, 05:50:07 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 19, 2013, 05:33:47 PM
and they'd sing the 1983 Wang Chung hit "Safety Dance" ("We can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind / 'cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance, then they're no friends of mine").

I hate myself already for posting this but "Safety Dance" was Men Without Hats.  Wang Chung was "Everybody have Fun Tonight"    I'm going to go shed a tear for myself in the corner now.  :'(

And to think that I actually DJ'ed dances back in the '80s. :-[

That was such an egregious error on my part that I'm going to give myself an '80's-vintage double facepalm for that:

"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

petemcb

So Greg, where's the plug/link for tonight's broadcast?  I'm not sure whether I can make it in so I was figuring I'd commiserate with you online.

iwu70


Titan Q

#35214
#3 Illinois Wesleyan (7-1) vs Wilmington (4-3) - Friday, 6:00pm EST/5:00pm CST @ Holland Sentinel/Russ DeVette Tournament

Illinois Wesleyan (7-1)
G - Dylan Overstreet, 6-3/180 Jr (11.4 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 4.2 apg, 4.2 A:TO)
G - Pat Sodemann, 6-3/195 Jr (10.0 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 2.0 apg)
F - Andrew Ziemnik, 6-5/220 Sr (12.1 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 2.8 apg)
F - Victor Davis, 6-5/235 Sr (12.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg)
C - Nick Anderson, 6-10/230 Sr (8.4 ppg, 4.1 rpg)

G - Bryce Dolan, 6-0/160 So (6.3 ppg, 2.1 apg)
F - Mike Mayberger, 6-6/205 Sr (7.4 ppg, 3.1 rpg)
F - Eric Dortch, 6-4/210 Sr (4.9 ppg, 3.9 rpg)
G - Jordan Nelson, 6-1/170 Jr (9.7 ppg)
G - Brady Zimmer, 6-4/180 Sr (3.3 ppg)

Wilmington (4-3)
G - Dwight Johnson, 6-0/175 Jr (8.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.7 apg, 1.8 A:TO)
G - Klarke Ransome, 6-1/165 Sr (9.3 ppg, 2.4 rpg 2.9 apg)
F - R.J. Leppert, 6-4/170 Jr (14.9 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 2.3 apg)
F - Malcolm Heard II, 6-5/230 Sr (15.0 ppg, 7.4 rpg)
F - Ben Vonderhaar, 6-7/205 Sr (4.6 ppg, 3.0 rpg)

G - Taylor Wellman, 6-3/200 Sr (4.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 2.0 apg)
F - Ben McGriff, 6-5/200 Sr (6.6 ppg)
G - Law Williams, 6-0/180 Fr (5.1 ppg)
F - Christian Patterson, 6-4/190 Sr (1.9 ppg, 2.1 rpg)
F - John Righter, 6-3/200 Fr (4.4 rpg)


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Live stats - http://livestats.hope.edu/bs2/

Wilmington preview - http://www.wilmingtonquakers.com/sports/mbkb/2013-14/releases/20131219m8n0ou

Kovacevic

From Thursday's Kenosha News ...



Kelly glad to be back with Red Men

BY ANDREW HORSCHAK
ahorschak@kenoshanews.com

KENOSHA — Boarding an airplane bound for sunny Florida would make anyone smile at this time of the year.
Happy faces — many of them members of the Orlando-bound Carthage men's basketball program — filled Milwaukee's General Mitchell International Airport on Wednesday morning, but the biggest smile most likely belonged to Malcom Kelly.
Then again, the Carthage senior guard probably would have been beaming from ear to ear had he been boarding a flight to Vostok Station, Antarctica.
After making his long-awaited return with the Red Men on Saturday night, the appreciative 27-year-old Kenosha native is feeling as giddy as a 6-year-old on Christmas morning.
"It still hasn't hit me yet," Kelly said. "I really wasn't sure if I was going to be able to come back. To actually put the jersey on and be around the guys ... I'm just going to play hard and let my game show how happy I am. I really can't find the words to describe how I feel."
It's been a while
Prior to Saturday's 112-104 double-overtime victory over UW-Platteville at Tarble Arena, Kelly last appeared in a game for the Red Men on Feb. 18, 2012 in a season-ending 74-73 overtime loss to visiting Augustana.
That's a span of 663 days between games.
Not enrolled in school last year, Kelly enlisted in the U.S. Army reserves and reported for a nine-week boot camp at Fort Benning in Columbus, Ga., in mid-January.
Another military commitment — a three-year stint in the U.S. Navy — had preceded the start of the 2004 Reuther graduate's collegiate career. Once enrolled at Carthage, Kelly became a major contributor for the Red Men.
He averaged a team-high 19.4 points and earned first-team All-CCIW honors as a junior in 2012 after being named second-team All-CCIW as a sophomore. As a freshman, he played in all 30 games (13 starts) and helped the Red Men capture the CCIW title and reach the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Division III Tournament.
Kelly's return this season was delayed due to an academic issue when credits didn't transfer from Gateway Technical College.
Wearing his customary No. 25, Kelly scored 11 points off the bench in Saturday's season debut vs. Platteville. With those 11 points, he passed Theo Powell and moved into 24th place on the school's career scoring list with 1,056 points. With 175 3-pointers, he needs 16 more to pass Antoine McDaniel and become the school's all-time leader in that category.
Finding a role
With the Red Men off to a 6-3 start heading into this weekend's Athletic Connections Holiday Classic at the Orlando Downtown Recreation Complex, Kelly was asked about his role for the rest of the season.
"Right now, I don't really know," he said. "I'll be there to help 'em. They're playing well together, so I don't want to disrupt that, but I want to come in and give them a punch and keep 'em going."
Kelly played only 12 minutes in his first game, but that number is expected to increase.
"There's no doubt that Kelly is not coming in here as any kind of a role player," Carthage coach Bosko Djurickovic said. "He's coming in to assume the role that he's had in previous years. That's to be one of the key guys that we look at to put the ball in the basket.
"I think as he moves forward, he's going to be one of our full-time contributing guys just as the other guys are. Trying to work him into the rotation is interesting right now because the other perimeter guys have played very well to this point. There is no question that Kelly's play is different than the other guys. He's a stronger finisher than the other perimeter guys we've got and he's every bit as good of a shooter."
Heavy burden
Through nine games, the Red Men have four players averaging 30 minutes or more per game — junior point guard Donte Logan (35.6), senior forward Marlon Senior (33.9), senior guard Kevin Sykes Jr. (32.1) and junior guard Reese Herth (30.3). In addition, promising freshman Jason Scott left the program recently.
Could Kelly's return take some of the burden off?
"I don't look at it that way, specifically, because we have other guys who are available now that could have had expanded minutes," Djurickovic said. "It's just that the guys who are playing 30 minutes have really played well. The perimeter guys have done a very, very nice job."
In his second week practicing with the team, Kelly is quickly getting reacclimated to the rigors of college basketball.
"I'm starting to get used to it," he said. "My lungs are starting to get used to the up and down of basketball. I could run on a treadmill all day, but getting up and down a basketball court and stopping and starting is different. The more reps I get, the better I feel."
Djurickovic said that Kelly returned in "surprisingly good" shape.
"If you were looking at it as a non-basketball player, you would say 'beyond good' because he's not heavy, he moves well and he jumps very well," the Carthage coach said. However, getting into basketball shape is a whole different issue, but you have to give the guy credit."

iwu70

Carthage has played pretty well so far and with Malcom Kelly back and getting into game shape, I think CC could contend, at least give the top tier squads in the CCIW a good run for their money.  I think I had them in the top four if Kelly returned.  Or near to it. 

Good challenge for IWU this weekend -- Wilmington and then likely Hope.  Titans are lighting it up from three and shooting a great percentage overall.  Dolan and Mayberger have really found their stroke -- Nelson and Zimmer coming on hopefully too, from treyville.  Davis and Zman shoot the three very well for big guys -- and the Titans, so far, have improved their FT shooting percentage over last season.  Davis and Anderson have improved substantially in this regard. 

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all the CCIW chatsters!  (and, yes, I'm going to remind you all what year it is next in the Chinese Zodiac . . .  the Horse Year is coming, galloping up on us in late January!  If the Chinese are going to take over the world, and we all are going to work for the Chinese in the future, guess you guys better know what celebratory animal year is coming up next -- to be truly educated persons, and all that!).  And, as you might guess, I was born in the year of the RAT!  :)

Be well, enjoy the basketball.  Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.

IWU70

Gregory Sager

Chicago 89
North Park 66

Juwan Henry: 22 pts
Aaron Weaver: 17 pts, 10 rebs
Jay'Quan Lee: 5:0 a:to

Another ugly night in the crackerbox. The Maroons came out of the gate flying, and the Vikings were playing catch-up all night. They did manage to whittle the Chicago lead down to ten at 66-56 with 9:18 to play, but a series of collective brain cramps on the part of NPU, along with some good opportunistic play by the Maroons to take advantage of them, allowed the South Siders to pull away.

Juwan Henry and Jay'Quan Lee continue to look like they're going to be really fine CCIW players down the road, and freshman big man Joe Biko came off the bench tonight and gave NPU a bit of a lift. But it was all just straw in the wind, really, because the Vikings just don't do enough things well for enough minutes of the game for it to matter. It's just hard to dig up any positives for the Vikings right now.

Chicago played three CCIW teams earlier this season and lost by 20, 23, and 19. Tonight the Maroons beat NPU by 23. While I don't believe in the transitive property in terms of basketball scores, I can still read the tea leaves from those results -- and I don't like what I foresee.

Quote from: petemcb on December 19, 2013, 06:47:19 PM
So Greg, where's the plug/link for tonight's broadcast?  I'm not sure whether I can make it in so I was figuring I'd commiserate with you online.

Same place as always, Pete. Just click on the NPU men's basketball page and go to Watch Live! on the dropdown menu. (You missed a fun broadcast, dreary game aside. Rob forced me to name my all-time NPU and CCIW fives. If he asks me again in January, I might name ten completely different players, just to keep him on his toes. ;))
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Titan Q

In Orlando, NCC and #22 Eastern Connecticut heading to OT.

NCC was up 3 with about 5 seconds left when Brandon Williams fouled an EC player shooting a 3 to tie the game.

bopol

Quote from: madzillagd on December 19, 2013, 05:50:07 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 19, 2013, 05:33:47 PM
and they'd sing the 1983 Wang Chung hit "Safety Dance" ("We can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind / 'cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance, then they're no friends of mine").

I hate myself already for posting this but "Safety Dance" was Men Without Hats.  Wang Chung was "Everybody have Fun Tonight"    I'm going to go shed a tear for myself in the corner now.  :'(

Now little man
Jump as high as you can
Well, that's not very high