MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[iwu70]

Great game, superb D3 atmosphere at King tonight.  My hat is off to both programs, all the fans.  Nice to see the good sportsmanship at the end of the battle. 

I hope Vic Davis makes 1st Team All-CCIW this year which I feel he richly deserves.  He was terrific tonight, a big time senior performance in the biggest game of the year.

Also, Nelson has played great, no doubt, but over the long course of the season, and the CCIW run, I think Mike Mayberger deserves All-Conference honors for his many contributions to the Titans' success this year, over Nelson. 

We'll see what all the coaches think.  Hard to get four spots out of 15, perhaps a tie for a final spot on the third team.  Results out this week, before the Conference tournament, right?  Coach Rose gets Coach of the Year, likely Tyler Peter MOP. I could make a good argument for Overstreet. 

IWU vs. Carthage, Augie vs. Wheaton on Friday.   Some more great hoops.  Welcome to The Shirk Center for Athletics and Wellness at Illinois Wesleyan University.

IWU70

[Titan Q]

I hope Vic Davis makes 1st Team All-CCIW this year which I feel he richly deserves.  He was terrific tonight, a big time senior performance in the biggest game of the year.

Also, Nelson has played great, no doubt, but over the long course of the season, and the CCIW run, I think Mike Mayberger deserves All-Conference honors for his many contributions to the Titans' success this year, over Nelson.

If I was doing it, I would put IWU's players forward as follows:

1. Victor Davis
2. Dylan Overstreet
3. Andrew Ziemnik
4. Jordan Nelson

Last year Overstreet and Ziemnik were 1st Teamers.  This year I would give a slight edge to Davis over Ziemnik.  Overstreet should be a safe bet again.

CCIW numbers for Nelson and Mayberger:

- Jordan Nelson: 11.8 ppg
- Mike Mayberger: 8.4 ppg

Nelson is 1 point away from being the leading scorer on a 12-2 championship team...he has to make it ahead of Mayberger. (All conference consideration is based on CCIW play only...not 25 games.)

[shepherd]

Great game, superb D3 atmosphere at King tonight.  My hat is off to both programs, all the fans.  Nice to see the good sportsmanship at the end of the battle. 

I hope Vic Davis makes 1st Team All-CCIW this year which I feel he richly deserves.  He was terrific tonight, a big time senior performance in the biggest game of the year.

Also, Nelson has played great, no doubt, but over the long course of the season, and the CCIW run, I think Mike Mayberger deserves All-Conference honors for his many contributions to the Titans' success this year, over Nelson. 

We'll see what all the coaches think.  Hard to get four spots out of 15, perhaps a tie for a final spot on the third team.  Results out this week, before the Conference tournament, right?  Coach Rose gets Coach of the Year, likely Tyler Peter MOP. I could make a good argument for Overstreet. 

IWU vs. Carthage, Augie vs. Wheaton on Friday.   Some more great hoops.  Welcome to The Shirk Center for Athletics and Wellness at Illinois Wesleyan University.

IWU70

My hats off to IWU coming into Wheaton and playing great ball the whole game without a let down.   That was definitely very impressive.  Wheaton started out the first five minutes or so a little tentatively holding the ball too long before passing it.  The rest of the game I thought they played as good as they could.  A great game to watch although the Thunder lost. 

[iwu70]

Q, I agree with your ordering . . . Davis and Overstreet first team, Zman likely second, but I think a contribution to a 12-2 record is more that just scoring -- but also D, rebounding, the key spark off the bench, senior experience, the overall body of work.  For that reason, I'd vote for Mayberger over Nelson.  Of course Nelson a tremendous weapon from way down town.  Nelson will have his day . . . perhaps even first team next year.  Let's see what the coaches think.  I hope they give the MOP to Peter and Overstreet, jointly. 

Great game -- totally agree our Titans played one hellava game tonight.   Good stuff.  A true team effort all year with 11-12 guys making big contributions throughout the season.

IWU70

[veterancciwfan]

The key I thought was IWU establishing from the opening tip that they were the better team as IWU (I think) made it's first 6 shots and was ahead 11-3. Although there were many Titan heroes, Nelson's 1st half was perfect. 3/3 from floor with all 3 being 3-point shots, one from at least 28 feet, 2/2 from line and a very creative drive to the basket drawing 2 defenders with a perfect assist for an easy layup. So he scored or created 13 points and nailed a long 3 just before half to propel IWU to a somewhat comfortable 44-35 lead. After Wheaton took its only lead at 31-30, IWU finished the half on 14-4 run to prove again that they were the better team. Fantastic game and probably the 2nd best game IWU has played this season behind only the 106-62 destruction of Coe (shooting .662 from field & .607 on 3s) Old story line: IWU's bench = 31  Wheaton bench = 16. Question: What are the 2 greatest things on earth? Answer: Don't know what #2 is, but it is far behind being fortunate enough to be an IWU basketball fan in winter, absolutely the best season of the year! It never gets old. Thanks Ron Rose and to your entire coaching staff and to super trainer Adam Kelly.

[Titan Q]

Here is my 2014 CCIW All-Conference Team...

1st Team
Tyler Peters (6-4 Sr, PG), Wheaton   20.1 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 3.4 apg   
Victor Davis (6-5 Sr, F), Illinois Wesleyan   11.8 ppg, 7.1 rpg
Dylan Overstreet (6-3 Jr, PG), Illinois Wesleyan   10.1 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 4.1 apg
Malcom Kelly (6-0 Sr, SG), Carthage   20.2 ppg, 4.1 rpg
Landon Gamble (6-6 Sr, C), North Central   15.7 ppg, 5.3 rpg

2nd Team
Andrew Ziemnik (6-5 Sr, F), Illinois Wesleyan   11.9 ppg, 5.8 rpg
Brayden Teuscher (6-3 Jr, SG), Wheaton   16.6 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 2.7 apg
Hunter Hill (5-9 So, PG), Augustana   14.6 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.1 apg
Nate Haynes (6-6 Sr, C), Wheaton   10.5 ppg, 9.0 rpg
Vince Kmiec (6-4 Sr, SG), North Central   15.0 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 2.5 apg

3rd Team
Deavis Johnson (6-7 So, F), Millikin   14.9 ppg, 10.0 rpg
Juwan Henry (5-10 Fr, SG), North Park   19.8 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.5 apg
Jordan Nelson (6-1 Jr, SG), Illinois Wesleyan   11.8 ppg
Nick Sanford (6-5 Sr, F), Elmhurst  11.6 ppg, 8.0 rpg
Marlon Senior (6-5 Sr, F), Carthage   13.6 ppg, 6.2 rpg


* Fred Young Most Outstanding Player - Tyler Peters, Wheaton

* Coach of the Year - Ron Rose, Illinois Wesleyan

* Freshman of the Year - Juwan Henry, North Park

[iwu70]

Q, you may be right about all this.  We'll see.  I think Kelly ended up winning the scoring title over Mssr. Henry.

Looking forward to the CCIW tournament @The Shirk and hope the Titans fare better this year than they did last year.  Would be nice to get two more wins and the AQ, leaving some room for other CCIW teams to be considered for Pool C bids.

One more set of regional rankings this week, right?  I hope the Titan women are now ranked above Wheaton in the regional rankings on the women's side, given 2-0 head to head.

Wonderful weekend for the Titan nation and all the loyal IWU basketball fans.

IWU70

[Titan Q]

Q, you may be right about all this.  We'll see.  I think Kelly ended up winning the scoring title over Mssr. Henry.

Final points per game are above, in my All-CCIW Team post - both Kelly and Peters finished ahead of Henry.

[AppletonRocks]

Who won the CCIW?  Not enough analysis here.   

[havej]

Hunter Hill should be first team - not only the best player on his team, but the most important as well.  And probably the number 1 focus on every opponent's scouting report.

[bbfan44]

A young American figure skater was questioned about the scoring of her event and a small controversy regarding the Russian and the Korean scoring.  She explained that most viewers don't really know how the skating is judged and they see with their heart the beauty of the routine, but the judges look for technical details.  In basketball we seem to have a similar issue....between what we see and what the referees call.  Check out the charging/blocking call in last nights Syracuse v Duke game where Jim B got thrown out for complaining. There was talk on this board about how the game last night, IWU v Wheaton would be called, and most everyone asked for consistency in the calls.  There were 57 total fouls called in the game; some calls out in the open were little hand checks that everyone could see and they were called. Some calls underneath were not called when kids were getting mugged.  Oh well, that's part of the game.  The gripe I have is that there were 57 fouls called in the game.  Back on Feb 5th when Carthage and Wheaton played there were only 21 fouls called.  Interestingly, Debonair Dave Laning was a ref in each game.  I just don't see that the games can be so different in the flow that so many whistles are blown.  But then, maybe I'm seeing with my heart and missing the technical details.

[unanimous22]

Hunter Hill should be first team - not only the best player on his team, but the most important as well.  And probably the number 1 focus on every opponent's scouting report.

Just...no.

Not an argument can be made for him over anyone on the 1st team Q produced, nor Ziemnik.

[toooldtohoop]

Congrats to IWU.  Clearly the best team in the conference this year.

We were sure hoping that our seniors could play a few more games at home this year.  Now we just hope that there will be more after next weekend.

See you at Shirk.

[havej]

My fault Unanimous - mistakenly felt Hill should be on 1st team.  Only saw him outscore IWU's pg 41-11 in two games while forcing him into 8 turnovers.

At least that's an argument that is based on facts and data.

[Iwufan]

My fault Unanimous - mistakenly felt Hill should be on 1st team.  Only saw him outscore IWU's pg 41-11 in two games while forcing him into 8 turnovers.

At least that's an argument that is based on facts and data.

didn't realize that there was stat that keep track of who forced turnovers.  Hill had a great game vs IWU in Augie, not as much of a factor in Bloomington.