MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[iwu70]

The Roop again gives stellar advice.

Can we get back to basketball and discussing the reality of the Final Four this weekend?   Perhaps too too much to ask.

IWU70

[magicman]

I'll give kiko a plus K because it was entertaining and it must have taken him a fair amount of time just to type everything in all the posts, to say nothing of the time it took to look up all the teams and their mascots.  

[AppletonRocks]

Point could still crush IWU. 

[WUPHF]

Kiko is the greatest D3Boards.com poster of all time and not just because he has my Bears advancing a round further then they did the last three times they hosted rounds 1 & 2.

Also, that last post about Point crushing IWU was great.  I needed a good laugh this morning.  Good work.

[WUPHF]

Kiko is the greatest D3Boards.com poster of all time and not just because he has my Bears advancing.

Actually, I guess we would need a bracket with a set of rules and a playoff to make that determination.

[badgerwarhawk]

Point could still crush IWU. 

Maybe if they were playing like the were a month ago.  It would be difficult playing the way they've played the past two weekends.  For whatever reason Point picked a really bad time to go into a funk.  But they've had a great season.  Just not as great as they were anticipating. 

[The Roop]

Actually, I guess we would need a bracket with a set of rules and a playoff to make that determination.

How about no blood no foul and play on.

[newCCIWfan]

For those of you traveling to Salem.

Rosters for NABC D3 All-Star Game. Saturday, March 22nd. 3:00pm (prior to Championship game)

WEST ALL-STAR TEAM – Coach: Bill Leatherman, Bridgewater College
NAME, Number, HT/WT, Position, SCHOOL, REGION
DJ Woodmore, 1, 6-3/200, G, Virginia Wesleyan, South
Adam Honig, 4, 6-1/190, G, Dickinson,Mid-Atlantic
Richie Bonney, 5, 6-6/220, C, Hobart, East
Brandon Gries,10, 6-1/195, G, St. Norbert, Midwest
Julian Strickland, 31, 6-3/195, G , Rose Hulman, Midwest
Jared Suderley, 33, 6-6/210, F, Hartwick, East
Tyler Peters, 34, 6-4/205, F, Wheaton, Midwest
Kyle Schleigh, 35 , 6-6/195, F, UT Dallas, South
David Langan, 50, 6-8/240, C, Wesley, Mid-Atlantic

EAST ALL-STAR TEAM – Coach: Charlie Brock, Springfield College
NAME, Number, HT/WT, Position, SCHOOL, REGION
Michael Woods, 1, 6-3/175, G ,York, Atlantic
Andre Nixon, 3, 6-3/165, G, Purchase, Atlantic
Tyler Tilemma, 4, 6-3/175, G, UW-Stevens Point, West
Doug Thorpe, 42, 5-9/180, G, Wooster, Great Lakes
Darius Watson, 25, 6-5/220, G/F, Albertus Magnus, Northeast
Mike Garrow, 31, 6-4/200, G, Eastern Connecticut, Northeast
Dillon Stith, 32, 6-5/215, F, St. Vincent, Great Lakes
Daniel Kornbaum, 42, 6-9/212, C, Augsburg, West
Charlie Cross, 53 , 6-8/232, C, UW Platteville, West

[D-3 watcher]

NCAA D-1 has a 64 team tournament format that has 68 teams
NCAA D-3 has a 64 team tournament format that has 62 teams
I really like both tournaments,  but you can't have play in games to get in the big dance, they just played 25, and sometimes more games to decide who should be in.
And having teams get a bye in the D-3 dance is just dumb.
Yes, I know why, money, greed will bring them down.

[newCCIWfan]

NCAA D-1 has a 64 team tournament format that has 68 teams
NCAA D-3 has a 64 team tournament format that has 62 teams
I really like both tournaments,  but you can't have play in games to get in the big dance, they just played 25, and sometimes more games to decide who should be in.
And having teams get a bye in the D-3 dance is just dumb.
Yes, I know why, money, greed will bring them down.

I think the 62 teams selected for the D3 tournament is based off of a percentage of the overall D3 membership not expressly for the money saved from 2 fewer participants ... though perhaps the percentage is set where it is for monetary reasons

[kiko]

It's the same access ratio across all sports, including both mens' and womens'.

[sac]

It's the same access ratio across all sports, including both mens' and womens'.

But important to note it is not the same access ratio across divisions.

for mens basketball d3 is roughly 15%  for D1 roughly 19%, that difference may not seem like much but equal access would be an 80 team D3 tournament at 19% or just 52 for D1 at 15%.

[Gregory Sager]

Outstanding work, kiko. Huzzah!



One quibble:

Bridgewater State Bears over Bowdoin Polar Bears
Tough call here.  Since Bridgewater State is not a specific type of bear, it could be larger or smaller.  Giving Bowdoin credit for their specific type of bearness but ignoring this metric for Bridgewater State is like giving one school credit for all of the RROs they played via their conference games, while penalizing a school who happens to be a good team in a weaker conference.  So this came down the the mascots: which is fiercer?  Bowdoin's Polar Bear is somewhat reserved and distant.  Bridgewater State's Bear is snarling in your face.  Bridgewater wins in overtime.

The polar bear (Ursus maritimus) is tied with the Kodiak bear for the honor of being the world's largest ursine species. Of the three species of bear that live in the United States, only the black bear (Ursus americanus) calls Massachusetts home. It's hard to determine the species of bear depicted as the BSU mascot:



... although it's worth noting that there are no bright-red bears that naturally exist in the wild, leading me to conclude that the Bridgewater State mascot probably would've been abandoned as a cub and would not have survived. At any rate, geography seems to dictate that the BSU bear is a black bear (in species name, if not in actual color); at the risk of going all Dwight Schrute on you, I'll mention that a black bear tends to weigh between 200-550 lbs., while a polar bear usually tips the scales at 800-1500 lbs. -- if you can somehow manage to get it onto the scale in the first place, that is. Sounds to me like you picked the wrong bear to advance to the sectionals.

(What ... you thought that I wouldn't comment on this thread? )

[Gregory Sager]

NCAA D-1 has a 64 team tournament format that has 68 teams
NCAA D-3 has a 64 team tournament format that has 62 teams
I really like both tournaments,  but you can't have play in games to get in the big dance, they just played 25, and sometimes more games to decide who should be in.
And having teams get a bye in the D-3 dance is just dumb.
Yes, I know why, money, greed will bring them down.

Just match up four of the D1 teams in a couple of play-in games and have the winners advance to the D3 tourney, giving each division a 64-team bracket. Problem solved!

Can we get back to basketball and discussing the reality of the Final Four this weekend?   Perhaps too too much to ask.

IWU70

... says the man who has subjected this room to IWU opera-singer alumnae promos, IWU pep-band braggadocio, IWU building updates, IWU Asian international-student stats, endless bottom-of-the-TV-screen ticker scores for each and every IWU sport besides men's basketball ...

[kiko]

(What ... you thought that I wouldn't comment on this thread? )

No, actually, I would have won that bet. 

And since I am not aware of any actual Vikings on the North Side of Chicago (descendents of Vikings, perhaps; and wannabe Vikings trolling the streets of Wrigleyville and the Viagra Triangle on the weekends as well, but no authentic Vikings...), or any Bears in St. Louis outside of the zoo, or any Polar Bears in the greater Maine environs, my general rule was to disconnect locale from mascot.

That said, thank you for the hat tip.