MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[AndOne]

Today -- April 2nd -- is "All In for Wesleyan" day -- trying to raise key dollars for student scholarship.  If you are an IWU alum, supporter, today is the day to give. 

It's easy -- to www.iwu.edu/challenge   

Matching gift by the Egbers family of US$250K -- so we can raise today US$500K or more for IWU.  We need everyone associated with IWU to be supportive.

Pardon the promo . . . pardon the pitch. 

All for a good cause.

IWU70

Yep. Gotta help those "poor" IWU students be able to afford the CCIW's most expensive institution!   

CCIW Comparative Costs 2013-2014
                          Average $41,385

Illinois Wesleyan    $48,452
Augustana             $44,937
Carthage               $44,350
Elmhurst               $42,032
North Central         $41,940
Wheaton               $39,660
Millikin                  $38,382
North Park            $31,330

[Gregory Sager]

I live in the suburbs of Philadelphia and there's a signed picture of Bo Ryan at a pizza place I like.  I could never figure out why and then I heard he's from this area.  Chester, PA.  Who knew.

I did. (The MAC Freedom room's regulars used to make a big fuss over the fact that Bo Ryan is a Wilkes grad, back in the days when the MAC Freedom room on d3boards.com was the most fun place to be on the Internet.)

Matching gift by the Egbers family of US$250K -- so we can raise today US$500K or more for IWU.

"US$"? What, are you worried that people are going to donate to your alma mater using Belizean or Namibian dollars?

[iwu70]

AndOne, yes, IWU is the most expensive -- all the more need for strong financial aid and scholarship support for students.  All CCIW schools face this need.  I'm sure the other schools do too and would love to have loyal and generous alums step up and donate to the student aid budget.  IWU needs this more than ever -- hence our "All In for IWU" campaign today.  By last accounts we raised over 700K from almost 1900 donors.  Not bad for a days work.  My thanks to all Titans and other friends of IWU who contributed.

Greg, yes, US$ -- as we live in a world that has many other currencies and other countries with "dollars" too -- like here in Hong Kong with HK$, only worth about 15 cents per Hong Kong dollar.  Sorry to trouble you with clarity and accuracy.  IWU will, indeed, accept donations in any currency -- and convert them to use in the scholarship and student aid budget.  In fact yesterday, we had alums globally who did donate in foreign currencies, showing their loyalty to IWU.  Works for us.  One international alum in China, a superb photography, agreed to sell some of his photo works and donate the proceeds, yes, in renminbi or Chinese Yuan, to IWU for student scholarship support.  As the RMB has appreciated in value about 20% in the last year or so against the US$, that makes for even more US$s for IWU.  All good, my friend.

And, yes, we'll take Belizean or Namibian currency too -- why not?  Money is money. 

"All In for IWU" a big big success and my congrats to Jeff Mavros, Van Miller and all the IWU team who creatively put this day of Titan nation spirit and support together.  A great job.  IMHO.

IWU70 -- ever proud to be a TITAN.

[Gregory Sager]

Greg, yes, US$ -- as we live in a world that has many other currencies and other countries with "dollars" too -- like here in Hong Kong with HK$, only worth about 15 cents per Hong Kong dollar.  Sorry to trouble you with clarity and accuracy.

Dude, you're just being silly here. I'll bet all the corn in Manito that, except for you, nobody who reads d3boards.com who has ever had any intention of donating money to Illinois Wesleyan University uses any form of dollar other than United States legal tender -- with the remote-but-possible exception of some stray Canadian who is well aware that an American who uses the term "dollar" is always referring to money that has American presidents on it rather than British royalty.

[badgerwarhawk]

Come on, Greg, cut him some slack.  If you had paid $48,452 US$ for an education you'd want to show it off too. 

[WUPHF]

Gotta help those "poor" IWU students be able to afford the CCIW's most expensive institution!   

Elmhurst, I believe, is the most expensive based on the average tuition paid.  You quoted the sticker price, which some students pay but certainly not most.

I'll bet all the Pataka (MOP) in Macau that Illinois Wesleyan is not the second most expensive either.

[WUPHF]

Actually, let me change that before someone takes me up on it.  I'll bet all the ‎Ƀ Bitcoin on the Mt. Gox server.

[sac]

Greg, yes, US$ -- as we live in a world that has many other currencies and other countries with "dollars" too -- like here in Hong Kong with HK$, only worth about 15 cents per Hong Kong dollar.  Sorry to trouble you with clarity and accuracy.

Dude, you're just being silly here. I'll bet all the corn in Manito that, except for you, nobody who reads d3boards.com who has ever had any intention of donating money to Illinois Wesleyan University uses any form of dollar other than United States legal tender -- with the remote-but-possible exception of some stray Canadian who is well aware that an American who uses the term "dollar" is always referring to money that has American presidents on it rather than British royalty.

Bottom of the 12th, Sager steps to the plate and delivers what the fans had come to see.   This is the latest in the year the corn growing prowess of Manito has been referenced.  In accordance with Hall of Supersweetness bylaws we can now shut it down for the summer.

[sac]

'Canterbury senior guard Grant Sinn to play for North Park U, a D3 school in Chicago'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82OCDvoxhhE

I think but am not positive Canterbury is a private high school in Fort Wayne, Indiana playing in Indiana's smallest division.  Don't quote me on that though.  I've seen him listed as both 6-1 and 6-2

[AndOne]

'Canterbury senior guard Grant Sinn to play for North Park U, a D3 school in Chicago'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82OCDvoxhhE

I think but am not positive Canterbury is a private high school in Fort Wayne, Indiana playing in Indiana's smallest division.  Don't quote me on that though.  I've seen him listed as both 6-1 and 6-2

SINNing at North Park U? Blasphemy! 

Who woulda thunk it? 

[Gregory Sager]

'Canterbury senior guard Grant Sinn to play for North Park U, a D3 school in Chicago'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82OCDvoxhhE

He's a 6'2, 170 shooting guard who moved over to play the point this season. The word on him is that he's smart, hard-working, very coachable. I'm not certain how he projects as a CCIW player, because he comes out of Indiana's small-school division; it's not always easy to gauge how kids from small private schools or rural high schools will adjust to college play, as compared to the kids from the big suburban schools. But he sounds like a good fit for North Park: Christian kid, good student, eager to spend four years in Chicago. His dad was a student at Anderson at the same time as Tom Slyder, which is how Grant ended up on NPU's radar.

It's a nice beginning to the class of '18 for NPU.

I think but am not positive Canterbury is a private high school in Fort Wayne, Indiana playing in Indiana's smallest division.  Don't quote me on that though.

Correct. Fort Wayne Canterbury is a small Christian high school with a high academic reputation. It's also had a lot of success in basketball, as the Cavaliers won three sectional titles during Grant Sinn's first three seasons on the team and then were sectional runners-up this season.

SINNing at North Park U? Blasphemy! 

Who woulda thunk it? 

Yeah, nobody I know has ever done any of that before at NPU.

[AndOne]

Gotta help those "poor" IWU students be able to afford the CCIW's most expensive institution!   

Elmhurst, I believe, is the most expensive based on the average tuition paid.  You quoted the sticker price, which some students pay but certainly not most.

I'll bet all the Pataka (MOP) in Macau that Illinois Wesleyan is not the second most expensive either.

WUH,

The cost figures I mentioned come from a June, 2013 survey of each of the schools, and include other costs besides just basic tuition itself.
Naturally, most students at every school don't pay the full "sticker" price.
I wonder about the source of your adjusted tuition costs.
Perhaps, in an effort to deflect some of the stigma associated with being the most costly CCIW institution, some of your Wesleyan friends have slipped you some misadjusted figures. 

With a more than $3,500.00 head start over the 2nd most expensive school, its hard to believe that unless IWU is giving away many more free academic dollars than all the other conference schools, that they would have much trouble holding on to the CCIW most expensive trophy.

[AndOne]

Cost to attend brings to mind a story I heard about a fairly recent former recruit whose dad is a wealthy suburban businessman used to being surrounded by costly possessions, and often associating price, above all else, with quality. Once the recruit and his parents had narrowed the initial 10-12 possibilities to a final 3, the monied father, under the theory of the most expensive school naturally and automatically being the best, ordained that his son attend the most costly of the 3 finalists. 

[iwu70]

AndOne, indeed an interesting way to make a college selection.  I have heard of such criteria for choice too.  A version of "you get what you pay for?" 

Greg Dude Sir, you are just wrong.  I wonder sometimes if you actually read what I write as I gave an example of a donor from China to IWU just yesterday who used foreign currency to make his donation -- with bills not with American Presidents or British Royalty pictured on said bills.  Oh well . . . 1850+ donors and over US$700K in gifts in one day is not chicken feed (nor all the corn in Manito either).   Whatever the relative cost to students of the various schools in the CCIW, I'm very pleased my alma mater had such a vintage day in the fundraising game and that the scholarship and student aid budget was significantly enlarged. 

"Shutting it down for the summer" seems a very good idea about now.  I'm off to America soon, a classic American road trip upcoming, out to see my son graduate from law school on the East coast.  Seeing the elders first in chilly MN., then to IWU for graduation May 4th, along to Oberlin College for another graduation, and to my son's in late May.  All good.

Happy summer to all -- and may all the corn in Manito grow tall and robust, creating more farmers rich enough to send their kids to the CCIW school of their choice.

IWU70

[WUPHF]

[...] under the theory of the most expensive school naturally and automatically being the best, ordained that his son attend the most costly of the 3 finalists.

This theory has long been embraced by both the wealth and the poor and everyone in between.

Otherwise, I'll try to find my source for the discount rate for Illinois institutions.  I think Milliken is actually the cheapest CCIW school for the average student.