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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on December 15, 2014, 02:43:16 PM
Where's all that talk about Washington University possibly not being the best team...in St. Louis?  (Webster)  :'( ??? ;D
in hiding.   But hey, they only beat Webster by 10, though it could have been much worse😜
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AppletonRocks

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on December 15, 2014, 02:43:16 PM
Where's all that talk about Washington University possibly not being the best team...in St. Louis?  (Webster)  :'( ??? ;D

I would go with SLU.   ;)
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AppletonRocks

Mr. Sager is flickering off and on in the streamed broadcast from NPU.  Must be sunspots.
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Gotberg

Quote from: AppletonRocks on December 15, 2014, 06:55:21 PM
Mr. Sager is flickering off and on in the streamed broadcast from NPU.  Must be sunspots.

I watched some of the video tonight as well - the video quality was quite poor - audio was good but flickered like you said due to video.
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AndOne

IWU fans,

I'm sure I'll get little or no argument when I say I think Dylan Overstreet is a very good:
1. Penetrator
2. Passer/assist man
3. Finisher on the drive
4. Mid-range shooter

Given that, does anyone think he is shooting too many threes?
Against Wash U, he was 1 for 6 from behind the line. For the year he is 6 for 35 which is a measely 24%.
Does anybody feel he should concentrate offensively on the above 4 points, and leave the 3 point shooting to someone else? He is scoring well, but it seems he is taking a lot of shots to get his points.

Bryce Dolan was no help with an uncharacteristic 1 for 7 from distance vs. WU, but is at 43% overall. Any disagreement it was likely just an off day?

Jordan Nelson was 1 for 4 on threes, and 1 for 6 overall. For the season, the DI transfer is at only 28% on threes, and an embarrassing 23% overall against DIII competition. Obviously, when he is in the game, he is going to shoot. But, given these numbers should Pennington, or perhaps Stempel, be getting the minutes Nelson is currently eating?

Of course, even with these problems, IWU is still one of the top teams. Many others would love to have such "problems."

Gregory Sager

North Park 84
UW-Oshkosh 59

Juwan Henry: 25 pts, 5 rebs, 10:2 a:to, 4 blks
T.J. Cobbs: 13 pts, 7 rebs, 5 stls
Michael Hutchinson: 12 pts, 6 rebs
Joe Biko: 10 pts
Jordan Robinson: 7 rebs

The story of this game was defense. After a first half of missed opportunities in which NPU squandered a 13-point lead by giving up a 16-2 run to UWO, the game was tied at the half and I thought that it was shaping up to go right down to the wire. But the Vikings went on a 14-4 run early in the second half to establish a lead that they would never surrender. The Titans did stay close for awhile, coming to within 58-52 with 12:20 remaining, but they completely ran out of gas at that point, shooting only 1-13 from the field the rest of the way, as the Park built up the lead and Tom Slyder was eventually able to empty the end of his bench.

NPU shot 31-56 (55%) from the field, a season high for the Vikings, while holding UWO to 17-48 (35%), including a measly 5-25 in the second half. The Titans went 0-12 from downtown in the second half, and, while some of that was just cold shooting, some of it was weary legs down the stretch as well. North Park's quickness really tires out opponents. The Vikings deserve some credit for their second-half defense, too, as the 5-13 shooting from two-point range by the much bigger Titans in the second half indicates that they were not getting the post-up looks they wanted. NPU also outrebounded UWO, 37-32, in spite of playing stretches of the game in which Tom Slyder had to put three or even four guys on the floor who're shorter than six feet tall.

It was especially gratifying to see the Vikings play so well on a night when some of their big guns (Jordan Robinson and Colin Lake, and eventually Michael Hutchinson as well) had to sit for long stretches due to foul trouble. Joe Biko, Trevor Pye, and Garrett Gatz played very well off the bench, and T.J. Cobbs really stepped it up and had an exceptional night. Like Hutchinson, you can really see Cobbs' confidence growing on the court with every game. And, of course, Juwan Henry was Juwan Henry. The numbers he's putting up in almost every category on a nightly basis are simply ridiculous.

North Park (6-1) is gonna have to step up a level and play a more complete game on Wednesday in the Ratner Center, as Chicago will be the best team that the Vikings have faced since the opener at St. Norbert. But, for tonight at least, they can bask in a pretty solid win. UWO may be a middling WIAC team in a down year for that league, but you never take lightly a win over any WIAC squad, especially a win as convincing as this one was.
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Titan Q

Illinois Wesleyan (6-2) vs Loras (3-4), 7:00pm...

Illinois Wesleyan (6-2)
G - Dylan Overstreet, 6-3/180 Sr. (11.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 5.4 apg)
G - Bryce Dolan, 6-0/165 Jr. (11.4 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.4 apg)
G - Pat Sodemann, 6-3/195 Sr. (8.3 ppg, 3.0 rpg)
F - Ryan Coyle, 6-6/208 Jr. (11.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg)
C - Trevor Seibring, 6-8/235 So. (10.5 ppg, 7.4 rpg)

G - Jordan Nelson, 6-1/170 Sr (5.6 ppg)
F - Alec Bausch, 6-6/210 So. (5.4 ppg, 4.3 rpg)
G - Andy Stempel, 6-3/180 So. (5.8 ppg)
G - Joel Pennington, 6-0/175 Jr. (4.8 ppg)
F - Rob Mahlke, 6-8/220 Jr. (0.7 ppg)

Loras (3-4)
G - Aaron Schueller, 5-11/180 Sr. (15.0 ppg, 2.6 rpg)
G - Justin VanWambeke, 6-0/190 So. (14.0 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 2.3 apg)
G - Bobby Harmening, 6-2/190 Sr. (8.1 ppg, 3.3 rpg)
F - Mirko Grcic, 6-6/235 Jr. (16.9 ppg, 11.7 rpg)
F - Justin Schneider, 6-9/265 Jr. (5.0 ppg, 4.8 rpg)

G - Domonique Criss, 5-11/163 So. (7.7 ppg)
F - Danny Quinn, 6-6/215 So. (4.9 ppg, 4.9 rpg)
G - Luke Berry, 6-2/185, Sr. (3.0 ppg)


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Quote from: AndOne on December 15, 2014, 10:38:54 PM
IWU fans,

I'm sure I'll get little or no argument when I say I think Dylan Overstreet is a very good:
1. Penetrator
2. Passer/assist man
3. Finisher on the drive
4. Mid-range shooter

Given that, does anyone think he is shooting too many threes?
Against Wash U, he was 1 for 6 from behind the line. For the year he is 6 for 35 which is a measely 24%.
Does anybody feel he should concentrate offensively on the above 4 points, and leave the 3 point shooting to someone else? He is scoring well, but it seems he is taking a lot of shots to get his points.

Bryce Dolan was no help with an uncharacteristic 1 for 7 from distance vs. WU, but is at 43% overall. Any disagreement it was likely just an off day?

Jordan Nelson was 1 for 4 on threes, and 1 for 6 overall. For the season, the DI transfer is at only 28% on threes, and an embarrassing 23% overall against DIII competition. Obviously, when he is in the game, he is going to shoot. But, given these numbers should Pennington, or perhaps Stempel, be getting the minutes Nelson is currently eating?

Of course, even with these problems, IWU is still one of the top teams. Many others would love to have such "problems."

Overstreet has been IWU's main engine for 3 seasons now; clearly one of the top 5 players in the league for his solid all around game.  Actually, he really hasn't been taking that many 3s on the season(3FGAs/game) given his amount of playing time and given how many the team shoots overall.  Dolan and Nelson are their 3FGA leaders by far, and even Sodemann has taken more.   

No getting around the fact that the Titans as a team shoot alot of 3s, much more than their opponents or others in the league.  It seems to be integral enough that it will be an obvious problem if/when they have an off night from the arc (i.e. 25%-30%) against a tough opponent?  I think it's difficult for teams to downshift that part of their game when it's not hitting on a given night.

AppletonRocks

Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 15, 2014, 11:26:01 PM
North Park 84
UW-Oshkosh 59

Juwan Henry: 25 pts, 5 rebs, 10:2 a:to, 4 blks
T.J. Cobbs: 13 pts, 7 rebs, 5 stls
Michael Hutchinson: 12 pts, 6 rebs
Joe Biko: 10 pts
Jordan Robinson: 7 rebs

The story of this game was defense. After a first half of missed opportunities in which NPU squandered a 13-point lead by giving up a 16-2 run to UWO, the game was tied at the half and I thought that it was shaping up to go right down to the wire. But the Vikings went on a 14-4 run early in the second half to establish a lead that they would never surrender. The Titans did stay close for awhile, coming to within 58-52 with 12:20 remaining, but they completely ran out of gas at that point, shooting only 1-13 from the field the rest of the way, as the Park built up the lead and Tom Slyder was eventually able to empty the end of his bench.

NPU shot 31-56 (55%) from the field, a season high for the Vikings, while holding UWO to 17-48 (35%), including a measly 5-25 in the second half. The Titans went 0-12 from downtown in the second half, and, while some of that was just cold shooting, some of it was weary legs down the stretch as well. North Park's quickness really tires out opponents. The Vikings deserve some credit for their second-half defense, too, as the 5-13 shooting from two-point range by the much bigger Titans in the second half indicates that they were not getting the post-up looks they wanted. NPU also outrebounded UWO, 37-32, in spite of playing stretches of the game in which Tom Slyder had to put three or even four guys on the floor who're shorter than six feet tall.

It was especially gratifying to see the Vikings play so well on a night when some of their big guns (Jordan Robinson and Colin Lake, and eventually Michael Hutchinson as well) had to sit for long stretches due to foul trouble. Joe Biko, Trevor Pye, and Garrett Gatz played very well off the bench, and T.J. Cobbs really stepped it up and had an exceptional night. Like Hutchinson, you can really see Cobbs' confidence growing on the court with every game. And, of course, Juwan Henry was Juwan Henry. The numbers he's putting up in almost every category on a nightly basis are simply ridiculous.

North Park (6-1) is gonna have to step up a level and play a more complete game on Wednesday in the Ratner Center, as Chicago will be the best team that the Vikings have faced since the opener at St. Norbert. But, for tonight at least, they can bask in a pretty solid win. UWO may be a middling WIAC team in a down year for that league, but you never take lightly a win over any WIAC squad, especially a win as convincing as this one was.

I think you caught a middling WIAC team on a horribly cold shooting night.  I could sort of hear you on the broadcast--my first--but I must admit it was a little rough to hear you. I did hear "hoop and a harm" twice early in the second half, unfortunately in the favor or NPU.  Good job when I could hear the audio.

Run the floor or Run DMC !!

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URockets

Quote from: AndOne on December 15, 2014, 10:38:54 PM
IWU fans,

I'm sure I'll get little or no argument when I say I think Dylan Overstreet is a very good:
1. Penetrator
2. Passer/assist man
3. Finisher on the drive
4. Mid-range shooter

Given that, does anyone think he is shooting too many threes?
Against Wash U, he was 1 for 6 from behind the line. For the year he is 6 for 35 which is a measely 24%.Does anybody feel he should concentrate offensively on the above 4 points, and leave the 3 point shooting to someone else? He is scoring well, but it seems he is taking a lot of shots to get his points.

Bryce Dolan was no help with an uncharacteristic 1 for 7 from distance vs. WU, but is at 43% overall. Any disagreement it was likely just an off day?

Jordan Nelson was 1 for 4 on threes, and 1 for 6 overall. For the season, the DI transfer is at only 28% on threes, and an embarrassing 23% overall against DIII competition. Obviously, when he is in the game, he is going to shoot. But, given these numbers should Pennington, or perhaps Stempel, be getting the minutes Nelson is currently eating?

Of course, even with these problems, IWU is still one of the top teams. Many others would love to have such "problems."


That's actually only 17%.

AndOne

New Top 25 poll out.

As I think most expected, Wash U moves into the top spot.
Augie up from 4 to 2 after its big win over UWW.
IWU goes from 5 to 9 after losing to the new #1.
North Central goes from 16 to 21 after losing for the 1st time to the new #5, Dickinson.
Wheaton is the final OTR team with 2 votes.

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2014-15/week4

AndOne

Quote from: URockets on December 16, 2014, 11:34:50 AM
Quote from: AndOne on December 15, 2014, 10:38:54 PM
IWU fans,

I'm sure I'll get little or no argument when I say I think Dylan Overstreet is a very good:
1. Penetrator
2. Passer/assist man
3. Finisher on the drive
4. Mid-range shooter

Given that, does anyone think he is shooting too many threes?
Against Wash U, he was 1 for 6 from behind the line. For the year he is 6 for 35 which is a measely 24%.Does anybody feel he should concentrate offensively on the above 4 points, and leave the 3 point shooting to someone else? He is scoring well, but it seems he is taking a lot of shots to get his points.

Bryce Dolan was no help with an uncharacteristic 1 for 7 from distance vs. WU, but is at 43% overall. Any disagreement it was likely just an off day?

Jordan Nelson was 1 for 4 on threes, and 1 for 6 overall. For the season, the DI transfer is at only 28% on threes, and an embarrassing 23% overall against DIII competition. Obviously, when he is in the game, he is going to shoot. But, given these numbers should Pennington, or perhaps Stempel, be getting the minutes Nelson is currently eating?

Of course, even with these problems, IWU is still one of the top teams. Many others would love to have such "problems."


That's actually only 17%.

Mr. Overstreet has only taken 25 three point shots. The 35 was a typo. 24 is the correct percentage.

John Gleich

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Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 15, 2014, 11:26:01 PM
North Park 84
UW-Oshkosh 59

Oshkosh isn't a world beater, but one thing they have done well this season is defend. Through the first 8 games, they were .500 but were holding opponents under 60.

That certainly wasn't the case against NPU from the looks of it.
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Titan Q

IWU 94
Loras 72

* Dylan Overstreet: 16 pts, 5 reb, 5 assists
* Ryan Coyle: 15 pts, 6 reb
* Alec Bausch: 15 pts, 3 reb
* Joel Pennington: 11 pts, 3 assists
* Trevor Seibring: 11 pts
* Andy Stempel: 10 pts

Gregory Sager

Final from downstate Jacksonville:

Augustana 78
MacMurray 73

No box posted yet. I wonder if this one was really as close as the final score makes it appear? The Highlanders were only 1-6 coming into this game.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell