MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[shepherd]

The way Wheaton has played this season they could end up in bad shape (near the bottom) in the CCIW.
No inside game offensively except a few back doors that have to be uncontested and the defense has not shown up this year.
Other years when they struggled offensively they could rely on the defense but they haven't shown the typical good defense this year.
All our big guys shoot good from outside and all have a poor inside game including the new recruits.  Not sure how or if this can be fixed.

[AndOne]

One other note on the game.   Not sure if there were any Augie fans who witnessed it, but I found it very odd and disappointing.  I was curious to see how the hand shake exchange went with Bosko and Coach G.  Not that I expected anything real unusual, but thought it might be one of those awkward exchanges.  What happened was as soon as Bosko shook Grey's hand he turned around and headed to the locker room.  Since when doesn't a coach show the courtesy to shake the hands of the other coaches and players?   He complimented the players and their system in his post game recap so the lack of sportsmanship (in my opinion) right after the game was noticeable.  I just can't believe other coaches resort to this.  The rest of the Carthage coaching staff and players went though the normal hand shake line.

We had heard that there was some controversy regarding the post-game handshake, but weren't aware of any of the details. This is very bizarre behavior from a head coach who is supposed to both act as a representative of his school, and set an example of good sportsmanship for his players.
Did  Bosko register an O-fer for the evening?

[Gregory Sager]

Show ponies huh? Well, if the saddle fits. 

And I might ask what is it with you and your need to defend Bosko? I didn't realize the two of you were such good buddies.

Bosko and I are friends of long standing. That's never been a secret. But I'm not friends with Grey Giovanine, and I'm just as weary of your continual picking on him as I am of your dump-on-Bosko crusade.

I thought I was just continuing the theme begun by kenoshamark. Furthermore, did I say anything that isn't true??

* Didn't Bosko attract only 2 freshman recruits?

Yes. That topic's been done to death already on CCIW Chat.

* Didn't Bosko make an outlandish statement about why it is impossible for his team to finish 7th?

No. You and I have had this argument already. I don't see any reason to have it again. In fact, that's part of my complaint here -- you keep rehashing the same old stuff, over and over (see also: Nelson, Jordan, gestures made by).

* Didn't Carthage's best player just leave the team?

Yes. And why are you drawing that into a discussion of your dump-on-Bosko crusade? Where's the proof that Herth's quitting the team is Bosko's fault? K-Mark indicates that, according to the Kenosha News, Herth's departure had nothing to do with Bosko.

* Isn't it possible that Bosko and his team finish 7th or even 8th?

I'd say that it's more than possible, it's now highly likely. The loss of Mike Kastel has a lot to do with that, too. But Kastel and Herth were still a part of the team when you started your anti-Bosko tirades, so I don't know why their respective departures should fuel any sort of "I told you so" justification on your part.

[AndOne]

http://www.kenoshanews.com/sports/carthage_preview_i_red_men_flying_way_under_the_radar_479808018.html

"If we finish seventh, I'll be the most surprised guy in the world," said 19th-year Carthage coach Bosko Djurickovic, who enters his 29th season in the league as a head coach. "No team that I've ever coached has finished seventh. This won't be the first team.

"I think we're better than we were last year and we finished third. We're going to find out who's right and who's wrong."

So the above statement by Bosko, surmising he can't finish 7th because its never happened before, wasn't, among other things, "outlandish" as I termed it??
I never said Reese Herth's leaving was Bosko's fault. I only pointed out it is just one incident in a mounting number of unusual circumstances involving Bosko/Carthage.
Given your "long standing" friendship, can you defend Bosko's not shaking hands with anyone from Augie except Grey Giovanine following the Carthage 31 point loss to Augie on Saturday? Is this the proper way for a head coach to behave? The proper example to set??

[kiko]

New poll out...

Augie remains #2 and picks up three first place votes
North Central up to #10
Illinois Wesleyan check in at #22
Elmhurst getting some love and sits third-highest among ORV.

[AndOne]

North Central, now #10, was #21

IWU, now #22, was #9

Elmhurst"s 41 votes place them in ORV at #28

Augie, North Central, and Elmhurst are all 11-1.
IWU is 8-4

[AndOne]

Congrats to North Central's Jack Burchett on being named CCIW Player of the Week.

http://northcentralcardinals.com/news/2015/1/5/MBB_0105153705.aspx

Jack is the 3rd NCC player to receive the honor so far this season.

[Gregory Sager]

http://www.kenoshanews.com/sports/carthage_preview_i_red_men_flying_way_under_the_radar_479808018.html

"If we finish seventh, I'll be the most surprised guy in the world," said 19th-year Carthage coach Bosko Djurickovic, who enters his 29th season in the league as a head coach. "No team that I've ever coached has finished seventh. This won't be the first team.

"I think we're better than we were last year and we finished third. We're going to find out who's right and who's wrong."

So the above statement by Bosko, surmising he can't finish 7th because its never happened before, wasn't, among other things, "outlandish" as I termed it??

Which part of this reply:

No. You and I have had this argument already. I don't see any reason to have it again.

... did you not understand, Mark?

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4592.37920

I never said Reese Herth's leaving was Bosko's fault. I only pointed out it is just one incident in a mounting number of unusual circumstances involving Bosko/Carthage.

There's nothing at all unusual about a player quitting a team. It happens all the time in D3 sports. Tives Gardner quit the Millikin team last week. I don't recall anybody using it as ammunition to trash Matt Nadelhoffer.

Given your "long standing" friendship, can you defend Bosko's not shaking hands with anyone from Augie except Grey Giovanine following the Carthage 31 point loss to Augie on Saturday?

It's not my duty to defend Bosko's every action. Do you defend all of your friends' actions?

Is this the proper way for a head coach to behave? The proper example to set??

No, it isn't.

Got anything else, Mark? Wanna dump on his wardrobe, perhaps? His penchant for seeking out the perfect tan? Got a Serbian joke to share with us?

[AndOne]

* I understood all of your previous reply about Bosko's statement concerning the possibility of Carthage finishing 7th. However, I still think that him saying its impossible for his team to finish 7th just because it has never happened before is illogical, outlandish, and ridiculous. And I certainly don't agree that just because you don't agree with me means I'm wrong. Furthermore, I think the majority of people would agree that such a statement is indeed illogical, outlandish, and ridiculous, among other things.

* You are 100% correct in that D3 players quit on a regular basis. What exacerbates things in this instance is the totality of issues occurring within a short interval---Bosko attracting only 2 recruits, Bosko's statement about not finishing 7th, Reese Herth suddenly quitting, and then Bosko's not shaking hands with the other team. This is an inordinate number of issues within a shorter than expected time frame and suggests someone may have left the stove on when they went to bed, and something may be starting to smolder north of the border.

* I'm glad you feel its proper for a coach to shake hands with all of the opposing staff and team members following a game.

* No, nothing else to say at the moment other than I agree Bosko's wardrobe can certainly, upon occasion, be colorful which I think is great, that I hope Bosko's penchant for seeking out the perfect tan doesn't give him skin cancer, and that I'm sorry, but I don't know any Serbian jokes. 

[AndOne]

New poll out...

Augie remains #2 and picks up three first place votes
North Central up to #10
Illinois Wesleyan check in at #22
Elmhurst getting some love and sits third-highest among ORV.

North Central, now #10, was #21

IWU, now #22, was #9

Elmhurst"s 41 votes place them in ORV at #28

Augie, North Central, and Elmhurst are all 11-1.
IWU is 8-4

Massey today has Augie 3 spots lower than D3Hoops, at #5
They have NCC 2 spots lower, at #12
They have Elmhurst 10 places higher, at #18
They have IWU 6 places lower at #28

They also have 9-3 UWSP at #6 despite the fact they have 2 more losses than both NCC and Elmhurst, and that one of the 3 losses was to NCC. 
And, somehow, they have 7-4 Hope at #9. 
Interesting.

[Pat Coleman]

Hope's games against scholarship schools help them with Massey SOS, I believe, where they don't help them with our voters. Hope has played a strong schedule of D-III schools, too, but until this past week they had lost to all of the ranked teams. Hope is 1-3 vs. the Top 25. Definitely should get more than five votes (although, admittedly, I did not vote for them).

In hindsight, I probably should have, but I had UWSP and Wooster both in the 20-25 range and Hope lost to both of them so they were borderline for me. Might be that way for a lot of people.

[sac]

Hope's games against scholarship schools help them with Massey SOS, I believe, where they don't help them with our voters. Hope has played a strong schedule of D-III schools, too, but until this past week they had lost to all of the ranked teams. Hope is 1-3 vs. the Top 25. Definitely should get more than five votes (although, admittedly, I did not vote for them).

In hindsight, I probably should have, but I had UWSP and Wooster both in the 20-25 range and Hope lost to both of them so they were borderline for me. Might be that way for a lot of people.

Aquinas and Cornerstone are the massey equivalent of Baldwin-Wallace and Virginia Wesleyan,  or #50 and #20, its not that much of a boost in SOS.

[robertgoulet]

Former NCC coach making receiving accolades in D1:

http://www.hughdurhamaward.com/

BENJY TAYLOR EARNS MID-SEASON HONORS

BOSTON, MA  -- Hawaii's Benjy Taylor earns the Hugh Durham award mid-season coaching honors.

At 12-4, Hawai'i enters the new year with the most non-conference victories in program history and the most of any Big West team this season. The 'Bows posted wins over three BCS teams, knocking off Colorado, Nebraska and Pittsburgh.

Hawai'i, which was picked fifth in the media's Big West preseason poll released in October, made a coaching change just prior to the start of the season. On Oct. 28 Gib Arnold was releaved of his coaching duties and Taylor was named acting head coach on Oct. 31. Taylor served as the associate coach the previous four seasons.

The Hugh Durham Award is given annually to the nation's top mid-major coach. The award is named in honor of Hugh Durham who had retired at the end of the 2004-05 season. Durham is one of just twelve coaches to have led two different programs to the NCAA Final Four (Florida State in 1972 and Georgia in 1983). He is the only coach among that group to have led both schools to their lone Final Four appearance.

The recipient of the 2015 Durham award will be announced at the CollegeInsider.com Awards Banquet on April 3 in Indianapolis, site of the NCAA Men's Basketball Championship.

[Titan Q]

Looks like IWU received a recruiting commitment yesterday...

Ben Sestak @BenSestak_23
Blessed to say I will become a student-athlete and play basketball at Illinois Wesleyan University #GoTitans

Gavin Sullivan‏@Illinois_Irish
2015 Wing 6'5 Ben Sestak @BenSestak_23 (Springfield SHG) has committed to Illinois Wesleyan University. #IrishFam

http://www.prephoopsillinois.com/players-2015-ben-sestak

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1214601/ben-sestak

[AndOne]

Benjy Taylor couldn't get it done at D3 NCC where he was 28-46 in 3 seasons. Now he's successful at D1 Hawaii. Slick! 
Probably too many confining rules down here in D3.