MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[jaybird44]

Yeah, I suspect that getting to the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament also helped Dylan's case too, unless the voting took place before the tourney began. 

Which happens in these sorts of awards things. Not interested in starting a big fight...just was hoping for a little bit higher kudos for a great young man that consistently played at a double-double level and was an all-around fantastic player this season.

[AndOne]

As much as I have enjoyed watching David Overstreet play, I think an argument can be made in favor of David Fatoki of Wash-U for 1st-Team All-Central Region:

Fatoki  30.3 mpg/126-267, .472 FG/40-101, .396 3pt%/45-56, .804 FT%/4.1 rpg/7.6 apg/198-62 a-to, 3.19 ratio/1.9 stpg/13.0 ppg
Overstreet 26.9 mpg/114-244, .467 FG/21-72, .292 3pt%/73-93, .785 FT%/4.6 rpg/4.6 apg/134-75 a-to, 1.79 ratio/1.2 stpg/11.1 ppg

Both are deserving of 1st-team status, but the stats line is favorable to Fatoki.

Up for discussion...

Not much discussion needed. Do the statistics not speak for themselves?

[AndOne]

You make a good case, Jay. I wonder if Dylan Overstreet and Hunter Hill were selected ahead of David Fatoki because they were the CCIW co-MOPs, whereas Fatoki lost out on the UAA Player of the Year award to Alex Foster of Emory?

(I realize that Hill's team making the Final Four may have affected his status as well.)

Yeah, I suspect that getting to the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament also helped Dylan's case too, unless the voting took place before the tourney began. 

Which happens in these sorts of awards things. Not interested in starting a big fight...just was hoping for a little bit higher kudos for a great young man that consistently played at a double-double level and was an all-around fantastic player this season.

Dylan Overstreet was a very good player for a team that was very successful over the course of his tenure. However, he was never someone who struck fear in your heart, and who you worried would just go off and almost single handedly beat you. If fact, if you were playing IWU and up by 3 at the end of the game, Overstreet was the player you hoped would take the last shot for IWU.
If the opponent was Augie, and the situation the same, Hunter Hill, not so much.

As far as someone from a team with a better record or one that goes further in the postseason winning an award over an equal or slightly better player on a less successful team, what else is new? It's not like we haven't seen it happen several times before. 

[AndOne]

Congrats to North Central's Jack Burchett on his selection to the All-Region team.
"Big" Jack served as one of the Cardinal captains this season and was a leader both on the court and in the locker room. Jack achieved All-Conference and All-Region status by not only playing a tough physical game, but by playing a strong mental game as well.

Congrats to the other All-Region players:
Hunter Hill of Augie
Dylan Overstreet of IWU
Juwan Henry of NPU
Kyle Wuest of Elmhurst
Ben Ryan of Augie

Six of the 15 Central Region All-Region team members from the CCIW. Not too shabby.

[havej]

Regarding the recent all region discussion - who actually does the voting?

[badgerwarhawk]

Regarding the recent all region discussion - who actually does the voting?

Players are nominated by the SID of their school who may or may not get input from coaches.  Schools submitting multiple players can rank them indicating which player they would like to be considered first, second, etc.  Then a group of SID's from the region vote.   

If you go to the WIAC women's basketball forum there is a discussion of the process which begins on the bottom of page 347 and is continued onto page 348.   

[Titan Q]

Dylan Overstreet will play in the NABC game in Salem...

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2015/03/nabc-names-2015-all-star-rosters

http://www.iwusports.com/news/2015/3/16/MBB_0316153344.aspx

[Naperick]

Dylan Overstreet will play in the NABC game in Salem...

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2015/03/nabc-names-2015-all-star-rosters

http://www.iwusports.com/news/2015/3/16/MBB_0316153344.aspx

Awesome!

[AndOne]

Following the OT win last night in Decatur: 

"This game does not get played like this in most NCAA Division III conferences," said Carthage coach Bosko Djurickovic.  "This was two teams playing for pride, and it was as competitive and as physical a game as you can imagine.  We're thrilled to win this one.  We're proud to be a part of this league, and I'm proud of how our guys finished the season.  It was weird season, and there was no way to predict what the league scores were going to be, night in and night out.  The league was really good this year, top to bottom.  We have some good players, and I know we'll be significantly better next year.  There's no guarantee of that unless we do a better job of recruiting.  We were just under-manned this year, and that's on me.  We have to have an exceptional recruiting class this year, and I have no doubt that we will."

While no team comes close to getting all the recruits they target as a priority, things so far on the recruiting circuit aren't looking "exceptional" for Carthage at least as far as the recruitment of bigs is concerned.
One of Bosko's top big man targets, a 6'6" combo forward from the near northwest suburbs, recently committed to future CCIW member Carroll, and another, a 6'7" center from the far northwest suburbs decided to forego basketball in college, and attend the U of I as a student only. Perhaps Bosko is having better luck with some shorter players.

[AndOne]

Article on a 6'5" North Central SF-2G commit:

http://sports.positivelynaperville.com/2015/03/15/neuqua-valleys-connor-raridon-stood-above-all-as-2014-15-positively-naperville-prep-basketball-player-of-the-year/

[Mr. Ypsi]

Article on a 6'5" North Central SF-2G commit:

http://sports.positivelynaperville.com/2015/03/15/neuqua-valleys-connor-raridon-stood-above-all-as-2014-15-positively-naperville-prep-basketball-player-of-the-year/

Good thing Coach Raridon didn't start at NCC a few years earlier - he might've gotten Keelan Amelianovich too!

[iwu70]

Congrats to Dylan Overstreet on his All-Star game appearance upcoming. 

Nice weekend of hoops coming up.  To me, it's Point over Augie in the Final. 

We'll see.

Long long, crazy season coming to an end.

IWU70

[AndOne]

Article on a 6'5" North Central SF-2G commit:

http://sports.positivelynaperville.com/2015/03/15/neuqua-valleys-connor-raridon-stood-above-all-as-2014-15-positively-naperville-prep-basketball-player-of-the-year/

Good thing Coach Raridon didn't start at NCC a few years earlier - he might've gotten Keelan Amelianovich too!

Perhaps so! 

I believe the combatants at the time were current Hawaii head coach Benjy Taylor, and, for IWU, Scott Trost, currently at DII Lewis U.

[Gregory Sager]

There's an article by Rob Knox on Augustana on the d3hoops.com front page that's worth reading. It does a pretty good job of discussing what I think has been the key move by Grey Giovanine during Augie's stretch run -- going smaller by starting Griffin Pils at small forward while shifting Tayvian Johnson to power forward and Ben Ryan to center -- which really hasn't been discussed at all here on CCIW Chat.

However, the article regurgitated some nonsense from Josh Smith's d3hoops.com article about Augie from early December:

Even before the two-game losing streak, the Vikings experienced some turbulence in the form of losing their best post player Kevin Schlitter for the season with a torn anterior cruciate ligament tear and another, Nic Hoepfner, for a month because of a concussion. At one point, Pils was demoted to the junior varsity team for two weeks during the season. Now, he's a key cog in the Augustana machine.

Again with the "Kevin Schlitter was Augie's best post player" foolishness? This has already been dealt with here on CCIW Chat:

I'm fascinated by Augie's situation at the moment. Not so much last night's loss, as I don't think it's a terrible loss. As sac noted, the Dutch were a second-round D3 tourney team last season. Plus, Central was 3-0 going into the contest and was playing at home, and that seems like a good scenario for a possible upset.

But what fascinates me is Grey Giovanine's quote in Josh Smith's Around the Region column today on d3hoops.com:

"We're not the same team we were two weeks ago," Augustana head coach Grey Giovanine said, prior to Wednesday's 89-78 loss at Central. "We lost our best, most experienced front line player for the season. So the team that was ranked No. 1 in the country, well, that team isn't here anymore.

"Losing Kevin Schlitter for the year is a major blow, so we're really kind of having to redefine our team."

C'mon, Grey. Kevin Schlitter is your best front-line player? Is that why you weren't starting him and why you were only giving him fewer than 13 minutes of playing time per game this season? Heck, in his final game Schlitter got a whopping six minutes off of the bench in a 22-point thrashing of Rust. Who are you trying to kid, Grey? Everybody and his uncle knows that your best front-line players are your starters: PF Ben Ryan, SF Tayvian Johnson, and C Nick Hoepfner. Two years ago you had to play without Schlitter, and Augie finished 19-8 with what was basically a sophomore-dominated team that is almost identical in roster makeup to this season's senior-dominated team.

I'm not saying that Schlitter is chopped liver. He's a good player, and any CCIW team would be happy to have him. But Grey Giovanine hardly has to "redefine" his team in Schlitter's absence, since, as I said, the Doggies played almost the entire season two years ago with Schlitter out for the season. The Augie coach will almost certainly do the same thing that he did in 2012-13, which is to plug Alex Dziagwa and/or Brandon Motzel right into Schlitter's spot in the rotation and continue on as though nothing had happened.

I'm not trying to pile on Giovanine here, given the constant coat-throwing gibes that are starting to get a little redundant. But this really seems to me to be a less-than-honest response to the media regarding the as-yet-unexplained loss of Kevin Schlitter for the year. Perhaps some Augustana fan can point out what it is that I seem to be missing in Giovanine's comments, but it reads to me as a case of truth-bending poor-mouth on his part.

Look, d3hoops.com folks ... we regulars here on CCIW Chat know our league. Kevin Schlitter was not Augustana's best post player. End of story.

[Greek Tragedy]

C'mon, Greg, it's obvious he's just trying to sandbag his team to the casual reader to give us has-beens false hope that we can knock off the juggernaut that is Augustana this weekend.