MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[markerickson]

"The bottom line is that if 60% of an institution's athletes are male, the total amount of aid going to men's programs should be approximately 60% of total aid provided."

There are numerous, legitimate counter-arguments to this broad stroke.

[petemcb]

Starting with the reality that most schools are closer to only 40-45% male.

[Titan Q]

IWU has a new Athletic Director after a national search...

http://iwusports.com/news/2015/5/6/GEN_0506153727.aspx

Mike has been considered a very competitive Division III A.D. candidate for a few years now - he has been offered a couple D3 jobs (that he didn't end up taking), and was in the final two of the Wash U national search.  I was always selfishly worried he would leave before IWU had the chance to hire him, so this is really a great day.

Great guy who will do an incredible job as Athletic Director at IWU.  Wags is just IWU's 3rd A.D. in 70 years.

[AndOne]

"The bottom line is that if 60% of an institution's athletes are male, the total amount of aid going to men's programs should be approximately 60% of total aid provided."

There are numerous, legitimate counter-arguments to this broad stroke.

Starting with the reality that most schools are closer to only 40-45% male.

Mark-

I am in full agreement that you may indeed have a valid point, but your argument is with the U.S. Dept. of Education. Not anyone here. 

Pete-

I'm not sure if its your reading or math class that you need to retake. 
The wording is "if 60% of an institution's athletes are male..........." Not "if 60% of an institution's students are male."
And, even if only 45% of a school's students are male, can't 60% of it's athletes still be male?
With a football roster of 140 at some schools, that alone could be enough to tip the percentage of total athletes to a male majority even though the total student population might be predominately female. 

[Gregory Sager]

"The bottom line is that if 60% of an institution's athletes are male, the total amount of aid going to men's programs should be approximately 60% of total aid provided."

There are numerous, legitimate counter-arguments to this broad stroke.

Starting with the reality that most schools are closer to only 40-45% male.

Mark-

I am in full agreement that you may indeed have a valid point, but your argument is with the U.S. Dept. of Education. Not anyone here. 

Uh, Mark, if Mark Erickson were to argue with the federal government, he'd be arguing with his boss. His job has to do with monitoring Title IX compliance for Uncle Sam.

[Gregory Sager]

Hurriedly moving on to another topic :

What, if any, summer league plans do the various CCIW programs have?

[AndOne]

"The bottom line is that if 60% of an institution's athletes are male, the total amount of aid going to men's programs should be approximately 60% of total aid provided."

There are numerous, legitimate counter-arguments to this broad stroke.

Starting with the reality that most schools are closer to only 40-45% male.

Mark-

I am in full agreement that you may indeed have a valid point, but your argument is with the U.S. Dept. of Education. Not anyone here. 

Uh, Mark, if Mark Erickson were to argue with the federal government, he'd be arguing with his boss. His job has to do with monitoring Title IX compliance for Uncle Sam.

Well uh, Gregory, someone arguing with the Federal Government. Imagine that! 

[Gregory Sager]

As iwu70 would say, "just say'in" (I think that's how he spells it; I'm not gonna bother looking it up.).

[AndOne]

Hurriedly moving on to another topic :

What, if any, summer league plans do the various CCIW programs have?

Last summer, CCIW members IWU, Elmhurst, and North Central, along with Aurora, Benedictine, and an NAIA school, whose identity I've forgotten, played games mainly at EC, and a couple of times at BU. This arrangement came about mainly because Joy Of The Game management in Deerfield raised team entrance fees while providing mostly incompetent referees. Games there had deteriorated to the point of often resembling football scrimmages. Additionally, it is a very long drive from the western suburbs where most of the above mentioned teams are based. With rush hour traffic factored in, we needed to leave Naperville no later than 5:00 for games scheduled to begin at 6:30.
In last summer's set up, there were no referees but there were also no team fees. As in open gym play, the players called their own fouls. This, naturally, resulted in a few differences of opinion, but play was no rougher than it had become in Deerfield. I believe Carthage still played in Deerfield, and Augie may have also.
Late last week, I heard whispers around the office that games would likely be taking place again this summer at EC and possibly BU. Nothing yet about teams involved or any other specifics. I will endeavor to obtain some additional details, and report them as the information becomes available.

[AndOne]

NCC RECRUIT-INFO

Tanner Gardon---6'7" PF/SF from Elgin Larkin.

* Daily Herald Honorable Mention Fox Valley All-Area
* 8.7 PPG, 7.0 RPG
* 29 three pointers. 

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20150402/sports/150409599/ (Committed-at bottom)


Jagger Anderson--6'0" PG. Transfer from Lincoln College. HS at Springfield Southeast

* 8.5 PPG, 2.5 APG

http://www.lincolncourier.com/article/20150505/SPORTS/150509663/?Start=1

[iwu70]

Congrats to Mike Wagner on being named IWU's new AD. 

IWU70

[Titan Q]

Millikin
* Matt Kruse, 6-9 PF (NCAA D2 McKendree/Monticello H.S. '13)
* Nathaniel Lackey, 6-8 F/C (Fairfield Community H.S.)
* Nathan Lovekamp, 6-3 SG (Cerro Gordo H.S.)
* Tyler Pygon, 5-11 PG (Providence Catholic H.S.)
* Jack Simpson, 5-11 PG/SG (Kickapoo H.S., Springfield, Mo)
* Thomas Williams, 6-2 SG (Byron Nelson H.S., Trophy Club, TX '14...formerly Kaneland H.S.)

Article on Millikin's recruiting class...

http://herald-review.com/sports/millikin/a-little-of-everything-in-new-millikin-class/article_235f0965-6e93-5cad-b35f-e30e954af9bd.html

[Mr. Ypsi]

A question I posed on the CCIW baseball board, but may have gotten buried by in-game reports.  I figure I'll get more response here on 'CCIW Chat', since whatever the proclivities of posters on our other boards, the CCIW is, always has been, and probably always will be a basketball first conference.

The baseball tourney was scheduled to be 2 on Thursday, 3 on Friday, and one, or two if necessary, on Saturday.  The third game on Friday was rained out, so it was re-scheduled to 2 on Saturday, with a Sunday game if necessary (which IWU made necessary by beating previously unbeaten Carthage today).  My question: if Wheaton (rather than NCC) had won game three (and thus been scheduled for the rained-out game five), how would the schedule have been affected?  Since Sunday is 'Selection Sunday', the tourney could not go on to Monday.  Is Wheaton's prohibition of Sunday games an absolute, or would they 'bend' to unforeseeable delays in tourney schedules if the alternative is their guys playing a triple-header if they kept winning?

[AndOne]

A question I posed on the CCIW baseball board, but may have gotten buried by in-game reports.  I figure I'll get more response here on 'CCIW Chat', since whatever the proclivities of posters on our other boards, the CCIW is, always has been, and probably always will be a basketball first conference.

The baseball tourney was scheduled to be 2 on Thursday, 3 on Friday, and one, or two if necessary, on Saturday.  The third game on Friday was rained out, so it was re-scheduled to 2 on Saturday, with a Sunday game if necessary (which IWU made necessary by beating previously unbeaten Carthage today).  My question: if Wheaton (rather than NCC) had won game three (and thus been scheduled for the rained-out game five), how would the schedule have been affected?  Since Sunday is 'Selection Sunday', the tourney could not go on to Monday.  Is Wheaton's prohibition of Sunday games an absolute, or would they 'bend' to unforeseeable delays in tourney schedules if the alternative is their guys playing a triple-header if they kept winning?

If Wheaton was scheduled to play Sunday and did so, it would evidently be a violation of College policy as delineated under Section I, point #5 (Sunday Activity Policy) on page 4 of the Student Handbook:

Formal practice or competition is not permitted on Sundays. The prohibition includes rescheduling of games due to inclement weather or other unforeseen circumstances whether at home, on the road, or on team trips. Other activities prohibited on Sundays includes team banquets, department/team sponsored study halls, and other required team activities.

* Perhaps there is a set of circumstances under which the above policy can be circumvented that one of our learned regular Wheaton posters is aware of, and can relate.

[USee]

I am not aware of any circumstance that has challenged that "rule". It would have indeed been interesting if Ypsi's scenario had played out. Or if the football team got into a Lightning delay "texas" style and couldn't finish their game on a saturday like what happened this year.

If the Thunder ever get into a situation like that they really have 3 options. 1-Try to influence the decision makers to play the competition on Monday (not an option for the baseball scenario) 2-Do not play is the competition (If the stakes are not very high, this is a reasonable choice), 3-Play in the competition as an "exception". This is unlikely although I do know the administration used to grant "exceptions" to their pledge rules (e.g. for the wedding of a family member you could "participate")