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USee

Quote from: Titan Q on October 31, 2015, 04:28:01 PM
IWU scrimmaged Olivet Nazarene today (NAIA D2 #5).  The Titans won the two variety periods by 11 cumulatively.

Rotation:
G - Rose
G - Dolan
F - Stempel
F - Coyle
C - Seibring

G - Bonnett
G - Nelms
G - Pennington
F - Bausch
F - Mahlke

No Falotico? Surprising. Is he hurt?

Titan Q

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Quote from: USee on November 01, 2015, 11:02:28 AM
Quote from: Titan Q on October 31, 2015, 04:28:01 PM
IWU scrimmaged Olivet Nazarene today (NAIA D2 #5).  The Titans won the two variety periods by 11 cumulatively.

Rotation:
G - Rose
G - Dolan
F - Stempel
F - Coyle
C - Seibring

G - Bonnett
G - Nelms
G - Pennington
F - Bausch
F - Mahlke

No Falotico? Surprising. Is he hurt?

I assume Falotico (PG) is simply behind Brian Nelms (PG) and Joel Pennington (PG/SG) right now.  Not a real surprise, to me, that a freshman who has only been running the offense for a few weeks would be behind a couple seniors in an October scrimmage.

I know they are very high on Falotico though and think he's going to be a good player.  I would expect him to keep pushing the older guys as the preseason and non-conference seasons play out.  Because of his ability to score in a variety of ways, it wouldn't surprise me to see him earn his way into the mix by January.

I have never seen him play.  Have only seen HS highlight video -- from way back in his sophomore season, when he was considered a higher level prospect. I am not really sure what he brings to the table.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gkjwd4OSCg

USee

I only comment because I saw Bonnet listed in your rotation, also a freshman guard. Very different players but was curious. Thanks

AndOne

Bonnet is indeed a freshman guard, but I believe his position is SG as opposed to playing the point. One of his chief attributes is quickness. He also handles the ball well and has a nice crossover dribble. He loves to hang out just beyond the arc, receive the ball, take a couple of very quick dribbles making you think he is going to drive, crossover, and step back to fire up a 3 ball.

With regard to Green Team freshman PGs, I have not seen Falotico play, and my knowledge of him is limited to what I've heard from sources who are familiar with him through high school and AAU play. While he is a good player, one thing I have heard is that he at times plays the point with a shoot first rather than a pass first mentality, thus taking a well defended shot when a teammate has a better open look.
One IWU freshman PG  I have seen a few times, and have been impressed with is Nick Coleman. He seems to run an efficient game, approaching things with a pass first mentality, and making good decisions.

It remains to be seen whether either will see any PT this season. They, among others, now enter the realm of what has widely been referred to as "the hoarded," a reference to the fact that IWU in recent years has seemed to harbor a plethora of guards, many of whom see little or no action as there are just so many minutes available over the course of a season. This subject has been addressed by several posters over recent seasons. I sense there is both some degree of ridiculousness, and some degree of reality to this theory. The IWU guard corps would have been even more swollen this season, but perusal of the 2015-2016 IWU team roster shows three sophomore guards from last year's roster did not return to the team this season for what would likely have been their third year of not seeing any playing time. 2 other current juniors who did return saw only 3 and 6 minutes all season last year. 

AndOne

Quote from: AndOne on October 31, 2015, 10:50:56 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on October 31, 2015, 04:28:01 PM
IWU scrimmaged Olivet Nazarene today (NAIA D2 #5).  The Titans won the two variety periods by 11 cumulatively.

Rotation:
G - Rose
G - Dolan
F - Stempel
F - Coyle
C - Seibring

G - Bonnett
G - Nelms
G - Pennington
F - Bausch
F - Mahlke

Yes, but we need to know who won the varsity periods too!  :)

It seems somewhat surprising that neither Beasley nor Carroll saw any action at either of the forward spots. Both are sophomores. Beasley appears to be very athletic with a high degree of upside/potential. Carroll must have some degree of skill, having been recruited by what seems like about 10 schools. Mahlke, a senior, really hasn't ever done much to this point.
Coyle, who on the basis of his severely diminished playing time over the stretch run last season seemed to end the year in the doghouse, appears to be getting what will be Marietti's time once he recovers from his unfortunate injury.

Titan Q

Quote from: AndOne on November 01, 2015, 04:46:12 PM
Bonnet is indeed a freshman guard, but I believe his position is SG as opposed to playing the point.

I don't think anyone said Bonnett is a PG.

Titan Q

Quote from: AndOne on November 01, 2015, 04:46:12 PM
It remains to be seen whether either will see any PT this season. They, among others, now enter the realm of what has widely been referred to as "the hoarded," a reference to the fact that IWU in recent years has seemed to harbor a plethora of guards, many of whom see little or no action as there are just so many minutes available over the course of a season. This subject has been addressed by several posters over recent seasons. I sense there is both some degree of ridiculousness, and some degree of reality to this theory.

Guards on 2015-16 CCIW rosters:

North Central: 18?*
North Park: 16
Augustana: 15
Carthage: 12
Wheaton: 12
Elmhurst: 11
Illinois Wesleyan: 11
Millikin: 9

*2015-16 roster not posted; 10 guards listed on 14-15 roster in Fr/So/Jr classes; 8 recruits listed as guards


Is it time to give it up, Mark?

AndOne

Quote from: Titan Q on November 01, 2015, 05:16:35 PM
Quote from: AndOne on November 01, 2015, 04:46:12 PM
It remains to be seen whether either will see any PT this season. They, among others, now enter the realm of what has widely been referred to as "the hoarded," a reference to the fact that IWU in recent years has seemed to harbor a plethora of guards, many of whom see little or no action as there are just so many minutes available over the course of a season. This subject has been addressed by several posters over recent seasons. I sense there is both some degree of ridiculousness, and some degree of reality to this theory.

Guards on 2015-16 CCIW rosters:

North Central: 18?* 11
North Park: 16
Augustana: 15
Carthage: 12
Wheaton: 12
Elmhurst: 11
Illinois Wesleyan: 11
Millikin: 9

*2015-16 roster not posted; 10 guards listed on 14-15 roster in Fr/So/Jr classes; 8 recruits listed as guards


Is it time to give it up, Mark?

In the interest of accurate and up to date reporting concerning the makeup of the NCC roster, please be advised that David Fuller, Zack Branch, and Marcus Agee are not playing this year, and Evan Fendley graduated, and has likewise moved on. Although listed as a G/F, Brian Harvey plays a F spot in the Cardinal offense. Recruit Jandron elected not to play after the fall open gym period, and Connor Raridon is the wing forward. Accordingly, the Cardinal roster is populated by 11 true guards, a couple of which were self recruited.
Additionally, be advised I am not the poster who initially proposed the aforementioned Theory of Hoarditivity, and have stated, on several occasions, that I do not fully concur with hoarding terminology. I am merely referencing an idea that has become a part of our recent lexicon.

USee

So NCC has the same number of guards as IWU? Which is less than 5 other CCIW teas? And we are still talking about guard hoarding?

Next subject. Who  are the pre season candidates for POY? Hunter-gatherer Hill and who else?

AndOne


Gregory Sager

Quote from: USee on November 01, 2015, 09:57:19 PM
So NCC has the same number of guards as IWU? Which is less than 5 other CCIW teas? And we are still talking about guard hoarding?

North Park does have 16 guards listed on the roster, but since the Vikings will employ a three-guard lineup most of the time (as they have for the last several seasons), I'm not sure that the Theory of Hoardativity really applies to NPU.

The ball's in your court, Augustana.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 01, 2015, 10:46:27 PM
Quote from: USee on November 01, 2015, 09:57:19 PM
So NCC has the same number of guards as IWU? Which is less than 5 other CCIW teas? And we are still talking about guard hoarding?

North Park does have 16 guards listed on the roster, but since the Vikings will employ a three-guard lineup most of the time (as they have for the last several seasons), I'm not sure that the Theory of Hoardativity really applies to NPU.

The ball's in your court, Augustana.

About damn time the ball got out of IWU's court, and especially the borderline libelous allegations about the Ron Rose-Brady Rose favoritism.  Considering that IWU does an extensive JV schedule, the numbers look about right to me.  There will always be some drop-outs and some injuries - having more than a bare minimum is just following the Boy Scout motto: Be Prepared.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 01, 2015, 11:15:00 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 01, 2015, 10:46:27 PM
Quote from: USee on November 01, 2015, 09:57:19 PM
So NCC has the same number of guards as IWU? Which is less than 5 other CCIW teas? And we are still talking about guard hoarding?

North Park does have 16 guards listed on the roster, but since the Vikings will employ a three-guard lineup most of the time (as they have for the last several seasons), I'm not sure that the Theory of Hoardativity really applies to NPU.

The ball's in your court, Augustana.

About damn time the ball got out of IWU's court, and especially the borderline libelous allegations about the Ron Rose-Brady Rose favoritism.  Considering that IWU does an extensive JV schedule, the numbers look about right to me.  There will always be some drop-outs and some injuries - having more than a bare minimum is just following the Boy Scout motto: Be Prepared.

Why did you bring them back up, then, Chuck? That seems pretty silly. Let the sleeping dogs sleep.
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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 01, 2015, 11:25:31 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 01, 2015, 11:15:00 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 01, 2015, 10:46:27 PM
Quote from: USee on November 01, 2015, 09:57:19 PM
So NCC has the same number of guards as IWU? Which is less than 5 other CCIW teas? And we are still talking about guard hoarding?

North Park does have 16 guards listed on the roster, but since the Vikings will employ a three-guard lineup most of the time (as they have for the last several seasons), I'm not sure that the Theory of Hoardativity really applies to NPU.

The ball's in your court, Augustana.

About damn time the ball got out of IWU's court, and especially the borderline libelous allegations about the Ron Rose-Brady Rose favoritism.  Considering that IWU does an extensive JV schedule, the numbers look about right to me.  There will always be some drop-outs and some injuries - having more than a bare minimum is just following the Boy Scout motto: Be Prepared.

Why did you bring them back up, then, Chuck? That seems pretty silly. Let the sleeping dogs sleep.

I may be getting senile on time (retirement can do that to you ::)) - I thought the latest allegations were only a few days ago.  If the dogs had been sleeping longer, I apologize for disturbing them.

Naperick

Some early recognition for CCIW players.  Juwan Henry may move up.

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November 2, 2015
2015-16 preseason men's All-America team

The D3hoops.com preseason All-America team is chosen from previous years' All-American and All-Region nominations.
First team               
Pos.    Player    School    Year    Hometown
G    Bryson Fonville    Catholic    Sr.    Greensboro, N.C.
G    Hunter Hill    Augustana    Sr.    Byron, Ill.
G    Lucas Hausman    Bowdoin    Sr.    Westport, Conn.
F    Will Fonseca    Staten Island    Sr.    Brooklyn, N.Y.
F    Joey Flannery    Babson     Jr.     Acton, Mass.
Second team               
Pos.    Player    School    Year    Hometown
G    Jordan Rezendes
   Mass-Dartmouth    Sr.    Onset, Mass.
G    Kenny Love    Whitworth    Jr.    Santa Rosa, Calif.
F    Keegan Ryan    St. John Fisher     Jr.    Plattsburgh, N.Y.
F    Andre Norris    Dubuque    Sr.    Plainfield, Ill.
C    Thayne Recker    Bluffton    Sr.    Arlington, Ohio
Third team               
Pos.    Player    School    Year    Hometown
G    Kyle Wuest    Elmhurst    Sr.    Edinburgh, Ind.
G    Ty Sabin    Ripon    Jr.    New Berlin, Wis.
G    Stephen Pelkofer    UW-Stevens Point     Sr.     Hales Corner, Wis.
F    Claude Gray    Ohio Wesleyan    Sr.    Avon, Ohio
F    Anthony Gaines    Louisiana College    Sr.    Shreveport, La.
Fourth team               
Pos.    Player    School    Year    Hometown
G    Aldin Medunjanin    Skidmore    Jr.    New York, N.Y.
G    Khory Moore    Virginia Wesleyan    Jr.    Arlington, Va.
G    Connor Green    Amherst    Sr.    Bedford, N.H.
F    Brendan Boken    Scranton    Sr.    South Pasadena, Calif.
F    Evan Kupferberg    NYU    Sr.    Boca Raton, Fla.
Honorable mention              
Pos.    Player    School    Year    Hometown
G    Nate Axelrod    Ohio Wesleyan    So.    Dublin, Ohio
G    Brandon Federici    Franklin and Marshall    So.    Morganville, N.J.
F    Juwan Henry    North Park    Jr.    Chicago, Ill.
F    Austin Stueck    Milwaukee Engineering    Sr.    South Milwaukee, Wis.
F    Kennedy Drey    Buena Vista    Jr.    Schaller, Iowa