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sac

North Central 83  Mt. Union 68
Mt. Union 74  Chicago 58
Chicago 74  North Central 61


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Titan Q

#40966
IWU 86
Rose-Hulman 76

http://www.iwusports.com/boxscore.aspx?id=3476&path=mbball

* Bryce Dolan: 18 pts, 2 reb, 5 assists (8-8 FT)
* Jaylen Beasley: 16 pts, 4 reb (4-5 3-point)
* Brady Rose: 14 pts, 5 reb, 3 assists
* Andy Stempel: 13 pts, 8 reb
* Trevor Seibring: 10 pts, 6 reb, 2 assists

IWU: 20 assists/10 turnovers; 15-17 FT (88%); 13-25 3-point (52%)


Plenty of things to clean up/improve on for IWU, but overall the Titans played really well today.  6-6 sophomore Jaylen Beasley had a breakout game - as he gets physically stronger, more experienced, and more confident, he has a chance to become a really good player.

The biggest FGs of the game were by the two sophomores from Bloomington High School.  Rose-Hulman had the IWU lead down to 6 when Jaylen Beasley made a long 3 at 3:59 to put IWU up 9.  On the next Titans possession, Brady Rose made one at 3:36 to push the margin to 12.

Rose-Human kept pushing at the end and IWU was forced to close it out at the FT line - the Titans knocked down 12 in a row in the final 0:57 (Dolan 8, Stempel 2, Rose 2).

The Titans (3-1) host #13 Ohio Wesleyan Saturday.

iwumichigander

Oh Q - you did not note the five guard lineup at 46.6 2nd half to  lose out the game!

Good game overall for Beasley - you can see improvement, added strength and still an upside

Andy Stempel has been bugging me as he reminds me of another former Titan.  It finally hit me tonight - Nate Hubbard.  Like Nate, Andy seems to see the whole court, good basketball IQ and just makes good decisions.

An ok win but the Titans have plenty to work on yet.

AndOne

#40968
Chicago--74
North Central--61

Tentative, disorganized, slow, uncoordinated-pick any word having a negative connotation and it would be applicable to today's performance by the Cardinals. In a game which you would have thought the Cardinals would come into high off their victory over #7 Mt. Union on Friday night, they instead appeared flat. They did recover a bit in the second half, out scoring the Maroons by 4 points. However, a 17 point halftime deficit proved much too steep a hill for the Cardinals to climb. They never led at any time during the game. Partly through their own ineptness, and partly through Chicago's efforts, the Cardinals shot only 37% from the field, and 23% from 3. When presented with a free throw, the result was a sickly 53%.
I think part of the problem is that the the largely young and new Cardinals-of the 9 players who saw more than 7 minutes of action today, 5 were not with the team last year, and 1 who was played very sparingly-not only need to learn to play together, but need to learn how to win together. Great results in one game, do nothing to guarantee anything at all positive in the next game without the neceaasry toughness, both physical and mental. Today, a veteran and very talented Chicago team bested the Cardinals in both categories. Their balanced attack saw 5 players score in double figures. They are quick, athletic, and talented, and will have a very good year. Three Cardinals hit for double figures today, but only Connor Raridon (team high 14 points) did so in what could be deemed, by one of our most prolific posters, an efficient manner. The Cards 2 leading scorers Friday night scored 17 and 15 points less, respectively, than they did Friday. The one positive the Cardinals attained was committing a commendable 7 turnovers for the second game in a row. They need to put this game behind them, and bring both the physical and mental effort they put forth against Mt. Union, to their next encounter.

iwumichigander

Quote from: AndOne on November 22, 2015, 09:29:15 PM
Chicago--74
North Central--61

Tentative, disorganized, slow, uncoordinated-pick any word having a negative connotation and it would be applicable to today's performance by the Cardinals. In a game which you would have thought the Cardinals would come into high off their victory over #7 Mt. Union on Friday night, they instead appeared flat. They did recover a bit in the second half, out scoring the Maroons by 4 points. However, a 17 point halftime deficit proved much too steep a hill for the Cardinals to climb. They never led at any time during the game. Partly through their own ineptness, and partly through Chicago's efforts, the Cardinals shot only 37% from the field, and 23% from 3. When presented with a free throw, the result was a sickly 53%.
I think part of the problem is that the the largely young and new Cardinals-of the 9 players who saw more than 7 minutes of action today, 5 were not with the team last year, and 1 who was played very sparingly-not only need to learn to play together, but need to learn how to win together. Great results in one game, do nothing to guarantee anything at all positive in the next game without the neceaasry toughness, both physical and mental. Today, a veteran and very talented Chicago team bested the Cardinals in both categories. Their balanced attack saw 5 players score in double figures. They are quick, athletic, and talented, and will have a very good year. Three Cardinals hit for double figures today, but only Connor Raridon (team high 14 points) did so in what could be deemed, by one of our most prolific posters, an efficient manner. The Cards 2 leading scorers Friday night scored 17 and 15 points less, respectively, than they did Friday. The one positive the Cardinals attained was committing a commendable 7 turnovers for the second game in a row. They need to put this game behind them, and bring both the physical and mental effort they put forth against Mt. Union, to their next encounter.
This would be the same veteran and very talented 2-2 UChgo that lost to North Park and Mt Union?

veterancciwfan

Larry: You beat me in posting about the 5 guard IWU lineup in the last minute of today's game (Rose, Dolan, Stempel, Bonnett & Pennington). The Bloomington HS tandem was outstanding today. Very encouraging weekend for IWU. The talent is there (3 of top 8 or 9 out with injuries and still beat a good and undefeated Rose-Hulman team by 10) and Stempel, Beasley, Bonnett will improve with experience. Ohio Wesleyan is good, deep and well coached. Should be a good test Sat. at Shirk.

AndOne

Quote from: iwumichigander on November 22, 2015, 10:04:46 PM

This would be the same veteran and very talented 2-2 UChgo that lost to North Park and Mt Union?

Yes, iwumichigander, it's the same veteran and very talented team that was picked to win the UAA championship this season. The one that was 16-9 last season and returns all of its starters as well as its sixth man. The one that had 2 all conference players last season that both returned this year. The one that was picked the pre-season #17 team, and that certainly has the talent to play at that level.

Lots of teams have lost early season games that you wouldn't necessarily have expected.
Perhaps your question was asked as a result of merely looking at their early season record, or have you actually seen U of C play as I did today? If so, I doubt if you would have asked the question.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: AndOne on November 22, 2015, 09:29:15 PM
Chicago--74
North Central--61

Tentative, disorganized, slow, uncoordinated-pick any word having a negative connotation and it would be applicable to today's performance by the Cardinals. In a game which you would have thought the Cardinals would come into high off their victory over #7 Mt. Union on Friday night, they instead appeared flat. They did recover a bit in the second half, out scoring the Maroons by 4 points. However, a 17 point halftime deficit proved much too steep a hill for the Cardinals to climb. They never led at any time during the game. Partly through their own ineptness, and partly through Chicago's efforts, the Cardinals shot only 37% from the field, and 23% from 3. When presented with a free throw, the result was a sickly 53%.
I think part of the problem is that the the largely young and new Cardinals-of the 9 players who saw more than 7 minutes of action today, 5 were not with the team last year, and 1 who was played very sparingly-not only need to learn to play together, but need to learn how to win together. Great results in one game, do nothing to guarantee anything at all positive in the next game without the neceaasry toughness, both physical and mental. Today, a veteran and very talented Chicago team bested the Cardinals in both categories. Their balanced attack saw 5 players score in double figures. They are quick, athletic, and talented, and will have a very good year. Three Cardinals hit for double figures today, but only Connor Raridon (team high 14 points) did so in what could be deemed, by one of our most prolific posters, an efficient manner. The Cards 2 leading scorers Friday night scored 17 and 15 points less, respectively, than they did Friday. The one positive the Cardinals attained was committing a commendable 7 turnovers for the second game in a row. They need to put this game behind them, and bring both the physical and mental effort they put forth against Mt. Union, to their next encounter.

The Maroons are a very streaky team when it comes to shooting the trey, but when they're on they can roll up a lot of points in a hurry. That's what they did yesterday during a 24-7 run over an 11-minute sequence in the first half from 16:17 to 5:32, when they extended a 5-4 lead to 29-11, their largest bulge of the game. During that sequence, the U of C hit five of the six treys that the team attempted. North Central never got any closer than eight points after that.

During that 11-minute run, the Maroons not only made a ton of shots, they also outhustled NCC and picked up a pile of offensive rebounds. That was just a matter of simple effort, because, although the Maroons have two or three really spectacular athletes, the U of C really isn't any more athletically talented as a whole than are the Cardinals. I remember thinking to myself as I watched, "The Maroons really want this more."

I was impressed by the second half that Connor Raridon had yesterday for NCC. He has a very lively body and good instincts for what play to make on the floor. Even when he doesn't make the play, he's still trying to do the right thing. One of the best things about having a coach's son on the floor is that their basketball IQs are much higher as freshman than that of the ordinary plebe. Jagger Anderson has really nice potential, too, but he plays too out of control at times. He's also going to have to pick up his free-throw shooting if he's going to handle the ball that much.

Quote from: sac on November 22, 2015, 04:40:00 PM
North Central 83  Mt. Union 68
Mt. Union 74  Chicago 58
Chicago 74  North Central 61


basketball is fun

Moral of the story: Don't put too much stock in transitive relations when it comes to comparing teams via basketball scores. Basketball teams can perform very differently from one day to the next.

Quote from: AndOne on November 23, 2015, 02:48:07 AM
Quote from: iwumichigander on November 22, 2015, 10:04:46 PM

This would be the same veteran and very talented 2-2 UChgo that lost to North Park and Mt Union?

Yes, iwumichigander, it's the same veteran and very talented team that was picked to win the UAA championship this season. The one that was 16-9 last season and returns all of its starters as well as its sixth man. The one that had 2 all conference players last season that both returned this year. The one that was picked the pre-season #17 team, and that certainly has the talent to play at that level.

Lots of teams have lost early season games that you wouldn't necessarily have expected.
Perhaps your question was asked as a result of merely looking at their early season record, or have you actually seen U of C play as I did today? If so, I doubt if you would have asked the question.

I'll back you up on this, Mark. The Maroons are a really solid team. I expect them to have a very good season before it's all said and done.

Quote from: veterancciwfan on November 22, 2015, 10:40:08 PMThe Bloomington HS tandem was outstanding today.

Interesting, but the best Bloomington High alumnus in the league right now is this guy, and it really isn't close.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Mr. Ypsi

#40973
How did Ron Rose ever lose Sims??!!  As a teammate of Brady Rose, he should have gotten a 'package deal'!  I'm guessing it is one of four possibilities: IWU doesn't have his major, he just wanted to be away from home (but not TOO far away from home), he is a late bloomer that Rose never recruited, or (perhaps most likely) he didn't want to be 'the coaches' kid's sidekick'.

Gregory Sager

Funny that you should mention that, Chuck, because during the Aurora @ Millikin game last Wednesday, MU radio guys Scott Busboom and Kevin Hale brought up that same subject at one point after one of the many spectacular plays Sims made. They made some sort of taunt to the effect of, "Sims is a product of Bloomington High. Illinois Wesleyan must be kicking itself for letting this kid escape town to come to Millikin."

My first thought was that Millikin really needs to get its own house in order before anyone associated with the team, broadcasters included, publicly taunts the more successful program up U.S. 51. Millikin may have won the battle over Sims, but the Big Blue continue to lose the war -- and I don't see that changing this season.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

AndOne

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 23, 2015, 08:27:15 PM
How did Ron Rose ever lose Sims??!!  As a teammate of Brady Rose, he should have gotten a 'package deal'!  I'm guessing it is one of four possibilities: IWU doesn't have his major, he just wanted to be away from home (but not TOO far away from home), he is a late bloomer that Rose never recruited, or (perhaps most likely) he didn't want to be 'the coaches' kid's sidekick'.

Even though the nut often does not fall far from the tree, the squirrel still doesn't always find the nut.  ;)

sac

Carthage 106  Olivet 93

Watched this one at Olivet tonight.  I'm no CCIW expert but it seems to me this Carthage team is going to have its troubles in the CCIW.  They shot 3's really well tonight and that was really the difference in the game. It was pretty close throughout until late when Carthage strung two or three 3's together to get the lead over 10, Olivet just didn't have enough offensive fire power to come back.

Carthage had trouble rebounding against Olivet and the Comets are pretty small themselves.



Bosko was in super form tonight and I thoroughly enjoyed each and every one of his timeouts.  My personal favorite was spending two minutes getting on his team for talking to the officials and demanded pretty forcefully that none of them do it again.  A few minutes later one of his players demonstrated how he thought he blocked the ball to the officials, Bosko came out over the half court line to let his kid have it for everyone in that tiny gym to hear.  He rightfully deserved a T for being so far out of the box, but the refs clued into what was going on and let him keep going.  Kind of a fun moment I thought.


Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: sac on November 24, 2015, 10:00:03 PM
Carthage 106  Olivet 93

Watched this one at Olivet tonight.  I'm no CCIW expert but it seems to me this Carthage team is going to have its troubles in the CCIW.  They shot 3's really well tonight and that was really the difference in the game. It was pretty close throughout until late when Carthage strung two or three 3's together to get the lead over 10, Olivet just didn't have enough offensive fire power to come back.

Carthage had trouble rebounding against Olivet and the Comets are pretty small themselves.



Bosko was in super form tonight and I thoroughly enjoyed each and every one of his timeouts.  My personal favorite was spending two minutes getting on his team for talking to the officials and demanded pretty forcefully that none of them do it again.  A few minutes later one of his players demonstrated how he thought he blocked the ball to the officials, Bosko came out over the half court line to let his kid have it for everyone in that tiny gym to hear.  He rightfully deserved a T for being so far out of the box, but the refs clued into what was going on and let him keep going.  Kind of a fun moment I thought.

Just Bosko being Bosko.  You really think the zebras are gonna T'up Bosko for telling his players NOT to argue with the zebras?! ;D

Gregory Sager

Augustana 80
Fontbonne 57

Four different Augie players reached double figures, as Augustana ran out to a 27-point halftime lead and cruised to the win in St. Louis.

Carthage 106
Olivet 93

As sac said, the Red Men were on fire from distance tonight, hitting 17-32 (53%) from beyond the arc. Six different Carthaginians reached double figures.

Millikin 68
Principia 53

T.J. Sims continues to look as though he's intent upon breaking all of Leon Gobczynski's heretofore unbreakable MU scoring records, as his 37 points tonight represented well over half of the Big Blue's output. He was 6-9 from downtown.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Gregory Sager

The CCIW is now 19-7 (.731) on the campaign thus far.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell