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Gregory Sager

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omaha

Why did Carroll leave their conference and why did the CCIW accept Carroll?

For a number of years there was a difference in recruiting between the CCIW and the Midwest Conference.  Schools in the Midwest Conference were more restricted in terms of contacting potential players.  Is that still true?  If it is perhaps Carroll felt this handicapped their recruiting.

AppletonRocks

The need to rid themselves of a similar logo to the Chicago Bears is the best reason I have ever heard.  Why would you want to have your official logo mimic such an under-performing franchise?  ;)

Plus the lower academic standards of the CCIW should help the Pios in their recruiting.  ;D
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Sounds like somebody needs a little more fiber in their diet.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: omaha on August 12, 2016, 09:02:10 AM
Why did Carroll leave their conference and why did the CCIW accept Carroll?

For a number of years there was a difference in recruiting between the CCIW and the Midwest Conference.  Schools in the Midwest Conference were more restricted in terms of contacting potential players.  Is that still true?  If it is perhaps Carroll felt this handicapped their recruiting.

The Midwest Conference began to allow off-campus recruiting of student-athletes back in 1999, but those contacts were restricted to sites of competition, clinics, camps, college fairs, and similar public events. No home-visit recruiting was allowed until the MWC finally relented and changed that rule in 2012. However, the league's coaches are restricted to 25 home-visit days per sport. D3 in general has no such restriction, and, as far as I know, no other D3 league has a similar in-house rule limiting home-visit recruiting, although some individual schools might.

The main area of in-house restrictions for MWC schools remains scheduling, which has been true for decades. At least in the ball sports (aside from football), MWC schools play schedules with fewer games than D3 allows. MWC men's and women's basketball, f'rinstance, are restricted to 23 regular-season games per year rather than the D3 maximum of 25, and MWC baseball teams can only play 36 regular-season games instead of the 40 permitted by D3.
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AndOne

Quote from: Gregory Sager on August 11, 2016, 10:54:15 PM

North Central's got a new second chair. Mitch Raridon is no longer with the program, and he's been replaced by a name that's very familiar to CCIW followers: Steve Schweer, former NPU graduate assistant coach and former IWU player, has just been hired by North Central after serving for several years in numerous capacities (including assistant men's basketball coach) at Monmouth. Only six more schools to go now before Steve completes his circuit of the CCIW. ;)

(Seriously, though, Steve's a good guy and I'm happy to see his career progressing nicely.)

Mitch Raridon's departure is a tremendous loss for the NCC program. Having grown up under the tutelage of a top level D3 coach in the person of his dad, Todd, who is approaching 500 victories, and being a former NCC player himself, Mitch is a great tactician who played a significant role in the Cardinals success over the last few years including their advancing to the national Sweet Sixteen in 2012, playing in the Final Four in 2013, and qualifying for the national tournament again his past season. In addition, Mitch filled the role of recruiting coordinator for the Cards for the last 2 years.

That said, I think the Cardinals are fortunate to have added someone as qualified as Steve Schweer to step into the top assistant's chair. I especially like the fact that Steve is a CCIW veteran, having earned 4 letters at conference foe Illinois Wesleyan, and coached at fellow member North Park.
He spent the last 5 years as the top basketball assistant at Monmouth, where he also served as the Ass't AD since 2012. In that position, he coordinated student-athlete recruitment for the entire athletic department. He also served as head men's golf coach last season. Todd Raridon has always stressed defense at NCC, and Schweer closely identifies with that facet of the game, having been voted Defensive Player of the Year twice during his playing career at IWU. Another plus is his familiarity with the prime recruiting Chicagoland area, having prepped at west suburban Hinsdale Central HS where his dad previously served as the AD.

Titan Q

Saturday final from Barcelona...

Illinois Wesleyan 86
Club Basquet L'Hospitalet 48

* Jason Gregoire: 13 pts
* Brady Rose: 12 pts
* Danny Baker: 12 pts
* Alec Bausch: 10 pts

Titan Q

On Sunday the Titans won game #2 in Spain, 87-41.

* Mark Falotico: 18 pts
* Jason Gregoire: 18 pts
* Drew Jones: 14 pts
* Derrick Streety: 11 pts

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Gregory Sager on August 12, 2016, 07:40:26 PM
Quote from: omaha on August 12, 2016, 09:02:10 AM
Why did Carroll leave their conference and why did the CCIW accept Carroll?

For a number of years there was a difference in recruiting between the CCIW and the Midwest Conference.  Schools in the Midwest Conference were more restricted in terms of contacting potential players.  Is that still true?  If it is perhaps Carroll felt this handicapped their recruiting.

The Midwest Conference began to allow off-campus recruiting of student-athletes back in 1999, but those contacts were restricted to sites of competition, clinics, camps, college fairs, and similar public events. No home-visit recruiting was allowed until the MWC finally relented and changed that rule in 2012. However, the league's coaches are restricted to 25 home-visit days per sport. D3 in general has no such restriction, and, as far as I know, no other D3 league has a similar in-house rule limiting home-visit recruiting, although some individual schools might.

The main area of in-house restrictions for MWC schools remains scheduling, which has been true for decades. At least in the ball sports (aside from football), MWC schools play schedules with fewer games than D3 allows. MWC men's and women's basketball, f'rinstance, are restricted to 23 regular-season games per year rather than the D3 maximum of 25, and MWC baseball teams can only play 36 regular-season games instead of the 40 permitted by D3.

True in football as well, in a way -- MWC schools are not allowed to have a preseason scrimmage. (Or if they choose to have one, then they must deduct it from their regular season total.)
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AndOne

Quote from: Titan Q on August 13, 2016, 08:23:53 AM
Saturday final from Barcelona...

Illinois Wesleyan 86
Club Basquet L'Hospitalet 48

* Jason Gregoire: 13 pts
* Brady Rose: 12 pts
* Danny Baker: 12 pts
* Alec Bausch: 10 pts

The Green Team is no doubt having a fabulous trip with both multiple overwhelmingly beautiful vistas, and culturally enriching experiences to enjoy.  8-)
However, it doesn't appear that the level of competition presents much of an opportunity for the same degree of athletic enrichment.  ;)

PANTAGRAPH STAFF  Aug 13, 2016

The Illinois Wesleyan men's basketball team rolled past Club Basquet L'Hospitalet, 86-48, Saturday in Barcelona in the first of four exhibition games in Spain.

IWU got 13 points from Jason Gregoire, 12 each from Brady Rose and Danny Baker, and 10 from Alec Bausch.

The Titans took a 9-7 lead and scored 11 straight points to go up 20-7 and led 47-23 at half. The Barcelona team, consisting primarily of 16-year-olds, had 11 points each from Joan Balada and Alex Ruf.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 14, 2016, 06:12:04 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on August 12, 2016, 07:40:26 PM
Quote from: omaha on August 12, 2016, 09:02:10 AM
Why did Carroll leave their conference and why did the CCIW accept Carroll?

For a number of years there was a difference in recruiting between the CCIW and the Midwest Conference.  Schools in the Midwest Conference were more restricted in terms of contacting potential players.  Is that still true?  If it is perhaps Carroll felt this handicapped their recruiting.

The Midwest Conference began to allow off-campus recruiting of student-athletes back in 1999, but those contacts were restricted to sites of competition, clinics, camps, college fairs, and similar public events. No home-visit recruiting was allowed until the MWC finally relented and changed that rule in 2012. However, the league's coaches are restricted to 25 home-visit days per sport. D3 in general has no such restriction, and, as far as I know, no other D3 league has a similar in-house rule limiting home-visit recruiting, although some individual schools might.

The main area of in-house restrictions for MWC schools remains scheduling, which has been true for decades. At least in the ball sports (aside from football), MWC schools play schedules with fewer games than D3 allows. MWC men's and women's basketball, f'rinstance, are restricted to 23 regular-season games per year rather than the D3 maximum of 25, and MWC baseball teams can only play 36 regular-season games instead of the 40 permitted by D3.

True in football as well, in a way -- MWC schools are not allowed to have a preseason scrimmage. (Or if they choose to have one, then they must deduct it from their regular season total.)

Good point.

Quote from: AndOne on August 15, 2016, 12:01:05 AMThe Barcelona team, consisting primarily of 16-year-olds, had 11 points each from Joan Balada and Alex Ruf.

I'm sure that it was easy to overlook such a minor detail. ;)
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sac

Quote from: AndOne on August 15, 2016, 12:01:05 AM
The Titans took a 9-7 lead and scored 11 straight points to go up 20-7 and led 47-23 at half. The Barcelona team, consisting primarily of 16-year-olds, had 11 points each from Joan Balada and Alex Ruf.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t8xwpW8gJQ

Gregory Sager

"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Titan Q

#42928
Final from Madrid...

IWU 86
Madrid Federacion Baloncesto 73

* Stempel 14 pts
* Rose 13 pts
* Bonnett 11 pts
* Coleman 10 pts
* Bausch 10 pts
* Falotico 9 pts
* Seibring 8 pts

The opponent was bigger than the Titans and had several players from the national teams.  Sounds like IWU played well.

Titan Q

IWU fell today 82-63 in Madrid.  Brady Rose had 16 and Nick Coleman 12.

The Titans head home tomorrow.