MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Mr. Ypsi]

So, he's listed as a redshirt sophomore, but is he *really* a redshirt sophomore? Because I don't trust the IWU website to properly list the status of the IWU coach's son.

This is my translation, Q.

Pat, no need to get snarky.  I don't read as many rosters as you, and don't recall ever seeing R-(class year) before.  I assumed it was medical redshirt, but just wanted confirmation.

[Titan Q]

So, he's listed as a redshirt sophomore, but is he *really* a redshirt sophomore? Because I don't trust the IWU website to properly list the status of the IWU coach's son.

This is my translation, Q.

Yes, that is my struggle here.  I have absolutely no idea what else "R-So." in the "YR." column would stand for on a roster.

[Titan Q]

Chuck, yes, Brady Rose was granted a medical redshirt for last season.  He is a sophomore athletically this season.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Chuck, yes, Brady Rose was granted a medical redshirt for last season.  He is a sophomore athletically this season.

Thanks, Bob.  As I said from the beginning, I assumed it must mean redshirt, but not having read many D3 rosters (and never seeing R-yr before) I only wanted confirmation; the snark was an unwelcome bonus.

[petemcb]

Rising sophomore...

+1

[petemcb]

Do any Wheaton fans (or others, for that matter) have any info on the absence of Murad Dillard from the Wheaton roster this year?

[AndOne]

Rumor has it that after reading about IWU's Redshirt Sophomore, Donald Trump called the Wesleyan SID to inquire whether he might be be interested in a position as Assistant Press Secretary. 

Seriously though, if Brady Rose is a junior academically and intends to graduate in 2018 with his original class, his redshirt status becomes a moot point. And, if he does graduate, he can't spend a fifth year using his fourth year of athletic eligibility playing at Wesleyan, because IWU, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't offer graduate classes.

[Titan Q]

Chuck, yes, Brady Rose was granted a medical redshirt for last season.  He is a sophomore athletically this season.

Thanks, Bob.  As I said from the beginning, I assumed it must mean redshirt, but not having read many D3 rosters (and never seeing R-yr before) I only wanted confirmation; the snark was an unwelcome bonus.

Sorry, Chuck.  This board requires some degree of occasional snark to function properly.

[Titan Q]

Seriously though, if Brady Rose is a junior academically and intends to graduate in 2018 with his original class, his redshirt status becomes a moot point. And, if he does graduate, he can't spend a fifth year using his fourth year of athletic eligibility playing at Wesleyan, because IWU, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't offer graduate classes.

IWU has had student-athletes use a 5th year of eligibility via medical redshirt.  Basketball-wise, it has been a long time.  I believe the last two are:
  * Andy Boyden '99 (injured early his freshman year)
  * Dave Kunka '93 (injured in senior year opener at Northwestern)

3-year starter Pat Sodemann was a 5th year guy in 2015, but that was different because his first two years were at D2 Truman State (where he was on scholarship).

The biggest obstacle in most cases is money.  Big difference between a 5th year on scholarship and a 5th year at a D3 private school.

[joehakes]

Not to be picky (imagine that on this board!!), but the term "redshirt" is a misnomer in DIII.  A redshirt stills practices with the team during the season that they are out.  In DIII that would constitute a season of participation.  A medical hardship waiver can be granted for season ending injuries that happen early in the season.  When someone is taken off the roster before the season starts they just sit out the year and recover, not listed on eligibility forms.  Sort of surprising that IWU would list that status on a roster. I would assume that this is just their way of letting people know of the young man's status, but again, not a DIII term.  Best wishes for his recovery this winter.

[Titan Q]

Not to be picky (imagine that on this board!!), but the term "redshirt" is a misnomer in DIII.  A redshirt stills practices with the team during the season that they are out.  In DIII that would constitute a season of participation.  A medical hardship waiver can be granted for season ending injuries that happen early in the season.  When someone is taken off the roster before the season starts they just sit out the year and recover, not listed on eligibility forms.  Sort of surprising that IWU would list that status on a roster. I would assume that this is just their way of letting people know of the young man's status, but again, not a DIII term.  Best wishes for his recovery this winter.

Agree, Joe.  Redshirt is definitely not the right term.  I guess it is the only way for them to clarify that he's a sophomore in terms of basketball eligibility.

I won't be surprised to see them change Rose's status to "Jr."

[Gregory Sager]

Not to be picky (imagine that on this board!!), but the term "redshirt" is a misnomer in DIII.  A redshirt stills practices with the team during the season that they are out.  In DIII that would constitute a season of participation.  A medical hardship waiver can be granted for season ending injuries that happen early in the season.  When someone is taken off the roster before the season starts they just sit out the year and recover, not listed on eligibility forms.  Sort of surprising that IWU would list that status on a roster. I would assume that this is just their way of letting people know of the young man's status, but again, not a DIII term.  Best wishes for his recovery this winter.

The "R-Fr." and "R-So." designations are what you typically see on a D1 or D2 roster the year after a player's redshirt season. It's a school's way of informing the fans, "Hey, here's that recruit we touted a couple of years ago. He didn't go anywhere. He just didn't suit up last season."

I don't think that I've seen it on a D3 roster since the WIAC was forced to give up redshirting privileges when D3 changed the rule a decade ago.

[USee]

Do any Wheaton fans (or others, for that matter) have any info on the absence of Murad Dillard from the Wheaton roster this year?

I heard he is transferring to IWU and was adopted by Ron Rose so he could have 2 sons playing. He will be listed next year as T-R-Jr.

[iwumichigander]

So, he's listed as a redshirt sophomore, but is he *really* a redshirt sophomore? Because I don't trust the IWU website to properly list the status of the IWU coach's son.

This is my translation, Q.

Yes, that is my struggle here.  I have absolutely no idea what else "R-So." in the "YR." column would stand for on a roster.

Well, Stu or someone must have read the posts because the description is now "Redshirt Sophomore"   So, we will likely spend a great part of this season beating this to pulp!

[Gregory Sager]

So, he's listed as a redshirt sophomore, but is he *really* a redshirt sophomore? Because I don't trust the IWU website to properly list the status of the IWU coach's son.

This is my translation, Q.

Yes, that is my struggle here.  I have absolutely no idea what else "R-So." in the "YR." column would stand for on a roster.

Well, Stu or someone must have read the posts because the description is now "Redshirt Sophomore"

... which doesn't make one bit of difference, really, because that's simply the previous abbreviation spelled out. It still doesn't address the point that Joe made earlier that the word "redshirt" is a misnomer in D3.

So, we will likely spend a great part of this season beating this to pulp!

Only if IWU hoards redshirt sophomores.