MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Gotberg]

Can't wait to see that on buzzer beaters on D3Hoops!

Vikings guard Billy Kirby posted the final play on his Twitter feed (he apparently had a friend high up in the stands behind me who captured it on his cellphone). I've been watching it over and over this morning.

I think Chicago has the full game replay on their website - you can just 'fast forward' to the end to see the last shot and hear the commentary etc.

Chicago does a nice job on their broadcast btw.

[Gregory Sager]

I've posted it on my Facebook timeline as well. The only problem with that cellphone video is that you can't see the fantastic play that Jordan Robinson made in getting down the floor to knock the ball away from Waller Perez on Baum's inbounds heave.

[lmitzel]

I've posted it on my Facebook timeline as well. The only problem with that cellphone video is that you can't see the fantastic play that Jordan Robinson made in getting down the floor to knock the ball away from Waller Perez on Baum's inbounds heave.

I went to Chicago's website to try and dig up their video archive of it, but I can't find anything.

Did pull up the Twitter videos. There's one that shows Chicago's stream of it which shows the play downcourt as well as Kirby's video of it.

What a shot.

[tyrone]

Benedictine 86, Wheaton 76
There's two ways to look at this home loss if you're a Wheaton fan. On the one hand, your team came within ten of the defending national runner-up. On the other hand, that defending national runner-up no longer has two key starters and the sixth man from that 31-1 team of a year ago. One of the three returning starters, however, is Tahron Harvey, and he had a 31 and 11 night at King Arena. Juco transfer Aston Francis had an impressive debut for WC with 24 points, while Ricky Samuelson contributed 22 and Reagan Jones had a 15 and 7 night. WC did manage to forge a tie halfway thru the first half, but BU otherwise led the entire way.

Moment of silence please...for the passing of a legend...the end of an era if you will...and us all moving forward together...consoling one another as we all launch forward into the first scheduled game after the conclusion of the circuitous college career of one "He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named".

May he continue to blossom somewhere in greener pastures...or whatever Euro leagues are in need of the proverbial "stretch 5"!!!

[Gregory Sager]

[WUPHF]

Had Jordan Baum waited just a second or so later, he may have been able to in-bounds it to one of the two Chicago players breaking free from their defenders and returning to the baseline, but certainly the pressure was on after the other failed attempts...

The University of Chicago does not post the archives for on demand viewing, from what I remember, but I am sure they will give it to D3Hoops.com to post.

[Gregory Sager]

Chris Martin isn't the only rookie head coach who made a splashy debut last night. Former Wheaton assistant coach Arte Culver made his collegiate head coaching debut last night with Covenant, and his Scots beat preseason #15 Emory, 75-70. It's not only the first time that Covenant has knocked off a ranked team since the school joined the NCAA, it's also the first time in eight tries that the Scots have beaten Emory.

[Gregory Sager]

Had Jordan Baum waited just a second or so later, he may have been able to in-bounds it to one of the two Chicago players breaking free from their defenders and returning to the baseline, but certainly the pressure was on after the other failed attempts...

Very true. The other thing to consider is that the natural impulse for a player is to throw the ball as far away from the near basket as possible in that situation, since the ball's lack of proximity to the basket, regardless of the success of the pass, works in favor of the team that's ahead and is trying to run out the clock. I've seen similar situations in which a player has disastrously thrown a long inbounds pass beyond the far endline and out of bounds, resulting in a possession for the defending team right in the same inbounding spot under the near basket, because that impulse to heave the ball as far away from the basket as possible is so strong.

Of course, if I was Baum and I knew that Waller Perez was going to be the guy at the other end of that long pass, I'd feel pretty good about my chances of having it work.

[lmitzel]

Benedictine 86, Wheaton 76
There's two ways to look at this home loss if you're a Wheaton fan. On the one hand, your team came within ten of the defending national runner-up. On the other hand, that defending national runner-up no longer has two key starters and the sixth man from that 31-1 team of a year ago. One of the three returning starters, however, is Tahron Harvey, and he had a 31 and 11 night at King Arena. Juco transfer Aston Francis had an impressive debut for WC with 24 points, while Ricky Samuelson contributed 22 and Reagan Jones had a 15 and 7 night. WC did manage to forge a tie halfway thru the first half, but BU otherwise led the entire way.

Moment of silence please...for the passing of a legend...the end of an era if you will...and us all moving forward together...consoling one another as we all launch forward into the first scheduled game after the conclusion of the circuitous college career of one "He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named".

May he continue to blossom somewhere in greener pastures...or whatever Euro leagues are in need of the proverbial "stretch 5"!!!

Considering I coached him when he was in eighth grade... but his "circuitous" career began in high school when he betrayed my alma mater and went to the dark, shadowy place known as Wheaton Academy...

You know what? Moment of silence it is.

[lmitzel]

Had Jordan Baum waited just a second or so later, he may have been able to in-bounds it to one of the two Chicago players breaking free from their defenders and returning to the baseline, but certainly the pressure was on after the other failed attempts...

Very true. The other thing to consider is that the natural impulse for a player is to throw the ball as far away from the near basket as possible in that situation, since the ball's lack of proximity to the basket, regardless of the success of the pass, works in favor of the team that's ahead and is trying to run out the clock. I've seen similar situations in which a player has disastrously thrown a long inbounds pass beyond the far endline and out of bounds, resulting in a possession for the defending team right in the same inbounding spot under the near basket, because that impulse to heave the ball as far away from the basket as possible is so strong.

Of course, if I was Baum and I knew that Waller Perez was going to be the guy at the other end of that long pass, I'd feel pretty good about my chances of having it work.

Reading this and thinking about it, because Henry hit a three (and then Chicago called multiple timeouts), why didn't Baum try to run along the baseline to open up a possible passing lane? I know they didn't have a man on him (at least on the last attempt), but maybe him moving a little bit he could have had a better look? I don't know, maybe I'm just picking nits at this point.

[iwu70]

Solid win on opening night for the Titans last night, over a rather weak opponent.  Titans came out strong, leading hugely by the half, then put it in cruise mode to let the Stars come a bit closer by the end.  Pretty good ball movement, trey shooting, strong rebounding by Seibring, Bausch and Beasley.  Very few TOs, and good FT shooting to start the season.  Perhaps some stronger competition this weekend.  Brady Rose looks very game-fit and ready to rock and roll.   Falitico and Curry had big performances in the JV game, which the Titans won by 3-4 points.  Stempel with 5 treys in the varsity contest, looking very comfortable already.  I think we'll see some big scoring games from Rose and Stempel this year.   Pretty small crowd.

The NPU-Chicago games sounds like a real beauty.

Two more games at The Shirk this weekend. 

IWU'70

[AndOne]

Benedictine 86, Wheaton 76
There's two ways to look at this home loss if you're a Wheaton fan. On the one hand, your team came within ten of the defending national runner-up. On the other hand, that defending national runner-up no longer has two key starters and the sixth man from that 31-1 team of a year ago. One of the three returning starters, however, is Tahron Harvey, and he had a 31 and 11 night at King Arena. Juco transfer Aston Francis had an impressive debut for WC with 24 points, while Ricky Samuelson contributed 22 and Reagan Jones had a 15 and 7 night. WC did manage to forge a tie halfway thru the first half, but BU otherwise led the entire way.

Moment of silence please...for the passing of a legend...the end of an era if you will...and us all moving forward together...consoling one another as we all launch forward into the first scheduled game after the conclusion of the circuitous college career of one "He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named".

May he continue to blossom somewhere in greener pastures...or whatever Euro leagues are in need of the proverbial "stretch 5"!!!

Sight seen.......

He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named sitting in the first row directly behind the Benedictine bench at Wheaton last night, offering suggestions to his former teammates during the contest. While its not known if any of his suggestions were instrumental in the Eagles win, no doubt his inspirational presence, complete with free-flowing, way past shoulder length locks, was at least a minor factor in the victory.   
And where more fitting than Wheaton for such an appearance? Although, the overall look was somewhat minimized by the presence of a stocking cap. 

Also guessing his presence in Wheaton means that long awaited Euro league contract has yet to materialize. Who woudda' thunk it? 

[wheels81]

Benedictine 86, Wheaton 76
There's two ways to look at this home loss if you're a Wheaton fan. On the one hand, your team came within ten of the defending national runner-up. On the other hand, that defending national runner-up no longer has two key starters and the sixth man from that 31-1 team of a year ago. One of the three returning starters, however, is Tahron Harvey, and he had a 31 and 11 night at King Arena. Juco transfer Aston Francis had an impressive debut for WC with 24 points, while Ricky Samuelson contributed 22 and Reagan Jones had a 15 and 7 night. WC did manage to forge a tie halfway thru the first half, but BU otherwise led the entire way.


Greg,
Wheaton returned exactly ONE starter(RS) from last year and a total of maybe 15 pts.  Luke Peters started 4 games last year so yeah I would say that that would cancel out the other hand .  (Benedictine w/o 2 key starters and 6th man)  It was like our JV team playing anyone's Varsity last night let alone the national runner-up.   I was happy they were competitive and were able to stay in the same gym given the circumstances.  Only 12 dressed as 2 key expected contributors are on the football team.  Heck of a showing I would say. 
Given that I suggested Wheaton "Grinnell" their rotation for now until their "big guys" consume a steak or 2.

[GoPerry]

Benedictine 86, Wheaton 76
There's two ways to look at this home loss if you're a Wheaton fan. On the one hand, your team came within ten of the defending national runner-up. On the other hand, that defending national runner-up no longer has two key starters and the sixth man from that 31-1 team of a year ago. One of the three returning starters, however, is Tahron Harvey, and he had a 31 and 11 night at King Arena. Juco transfer Aston Francis had an impressive debut for WC with 24 points, while Ricky Samuelson contributed 22 and Reagan Jones had a 15 and 7 night. WC did manage to forge a tie halfway thru the first half, but BU otherwise led the entire way.


Greg,
Wheaton returned exactly ONE starter(RS) from last year and a total of maybe 15 pts.  Luke Peters started 4 games last year so yeah I would say that that would cancel out the other hand .  (Benedictine w/o 2 key starters and 6th man)  It was like our JV team playing anyone's Varsity last night let alone the national runner-up.   I was happy they were competitive and were able to stay in the same gym given the circumstances.  Only 12 dressed as 2 key expected contributors are on the football team.  Heck of a showing I would say. 
Given that I suggested Wheaton "Grinnell" their rotation for now until their "big guys" consume a steak or 2.

I'm not going to get too excited about a 10 pt loss.  However, even with playing a BU team that's clearly not the team from last year (notwithstanding their pre-season #6 ranking), I was happy to see some nice contributions from the likes of newcomer transfer Aston Francis and Reagan Jones.  6'8" frosh Jay Spencer shows some potential, but at 180lbs, he needs some serious beefing up to compete at this level.  Just one game but Francis looks pretty talented and better yet, can create his own shot.  Samuelson on the other hand relies a little more on the open look. 

There's not a single senior on the roster and the team looked it at times.  Lost a little composure at the end of the 1st half that allowed BU to extend to a 12 pt halftime lead.  Still, some encouraging signs.

[Gregory Sager]

Benedictine 86, Wheaton 76
There's two ways to look at this home loss if you're a Wheaton fan. On the one hand, your team came within ten of the defending national runner-up. On the other hand, that defending national runner-up no longer has two key starters and the sixth man from that 31-1 team of a year ago. One of the three returning starters, however, is Tahron Harvey, and he had a 31 and 11 night at King Arena. Juco transfer Aston Francis had an impressive debut for WC with 24 points, while Ricky Samuelson contributed 22 and Reagan Jones had a 15 and 7 night. WC did manage to forge a tie halfway thru the first half, but BU otherwise led the entire way.

Moment of silence please...for the passing of a legend...the end of an era if you will...and us all moving forward together...consoling one another as we all launch forward into the first scheduled game after the conclusion of the circuitous college career of one "He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named".

May he continue to blossom somewhere in greener pastures...or whatever Euro leagues are in need of the proverbial "stretch 5"!!!

Considering I coached him when he was in eighth grade... but his "circuitous" career began in high school when he betrayed my alma mater and went to the dark, shadowy place known as Wheaton Academy...

You know what? Moment of silence it is.

Sight seen.......

He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named sitting in the first row directly behind the Benedictine bench at Wheaton last night, offering suggestions to his former teammates during the contest. While its not known if any of his suggestions were instrumental in the Eagles win, no doubt his inspirational presence, complete with free-flowing, way past shoulder length locks, was at least a minor factor in the victory.   
And where more fitting than Wheaton for such an appearance? Although, the overall look was somewhat minimized by the presence of a stocking cap. 

Also guessing his presence in Wheaton means that long awaited Euro league contract has yet to materialize. Who woudda' thunk it? 

Perhaps we ought to start referring to He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named as He-Who-Should-Be-Forgotten.

While its not known if any of his suggestions were instrumental in the Eagles win, no doubt his inspirational presence, complete with free-flowing, way past shoulder length locks, was at least a minor factor in the victory.   

I've heard that in DuPage County they refer to that hairstyle as "the Swider".

Benedictine 86, Wheaton 76
There's two ways to look at this home loss if you're a Wheaton fan. On the one hand, your team came within ten of the defending national runner-up. On the other hand, that defending national runner-up no longer has two key starters and the sixth man from that 31-1 team of a year ago. One of the three returning starters, however, is Tahron Harvey, and he had a 31 and 11 night at King Arena. Juco transfer Aston Francis had an impressive debut for WC with 24 points, while Ricky Samuelson contributed 22 and Reagan Jones had a 15 and 7 night. WC did manage to forge a tie halfway thru the first half, but BU otherwise led the entire way.


Greg,
Wheaton returned exactly ONE starter(RS) from last year and a total of maybe 15 pts.  Luke Peters started 4 games last year so yeah I would say that that would cancel out the other hand .  (Benedictine w/o 2 key starters and 6th man)  It was like our JV team playing anyone's Varsity last night let alone the national runner-up.   I was happy they were competitive and were able to stay in the same gym given the circumstances.  Only 12 dressed as 2 key expected contributors are on the football team.

The big difference, Bully, is that Benedictine returns those players from a national runner-up team. Wheaton returns what it returns (and doesn't return what it doesn't return) from a team that went 5-20 last season. In other words, not all returnees (or lack thereof) are created equal.

Without having seen the game, I suspect that Wheaton is to be applauded for keeping it as close as it did. But there is something to be said for cleaning house and getting a fresh start. A couple of us were talking about this subject last night after the NPU @ Chicago game; Mike Schauer's preseason video (https://t.co/volTiv7QU9), which is a testament to the man's unusual (for a college basketball coach) level of public candor, alludes to Wheaton getting back this year to a more intense practice ethos and demonstrating a greater sense of team solidarity. Whenever you hear words like that, it's hard not to think that what he's saying is in juxtaposition to what happened last year. In other words, for as much as Wheaton lost in terms of players who aren't back this year, perhaps he feels that in the long run it's addition by subtraction.

Heck of a showing I would say. 
Given that I suggested Wheaton "Grinnell" their rotation for now until their "big guys" consume a steak or 2.

Well, they're certainly at the right school for that, as far as dining halls are concerned.