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Gregory Sager

Quote from: ChicagoView on November 20, 2016, 02:13:49 PMJust followed you on Twitter.  Thanks for all the content.  I blinked and 6 of my guys went D3 and I am able to keep up with them better than all my D1, D2 and Juco kids. It looks like 2 of my guys are JV for Elmhurst and Aurora, could be more but won't know until North Central starts play.  Is there much JV reporting or will I have to bounce around in their respective websites?

Thanks

The websites of the various CCIW schools don't produce game stories about their JV teams for any sport, nor do they produce statistics. Some will post JV schedules on their sites, but that's about the extent of it. We almost never talk about JV teams here on CCIW Chat, either. The lone exception is iwu70, who on scattered occasions has posted Illinois Wesleyan JV scores here, but I don't think that even his fellow Titans fans really care all that much whether he does it or not ... and the rest of us studiously ignore him whenever he does so. ;)

The venue in which you're most likely to encounter any mention of CCIW junior varsity men's basketball is on a game broadcast. For example, last night WJBC broadcaster Eric Stock, who serves as Illinois Wesleyan's radio play-by-play announcer, mentioned how Titans freshman Miles Curry was doing on the Wesleyan JV team. I've done it from time to time as well on my broadcasts if some North Park player is doing something noteworthy on the JV team, and Augie's terrific broadcasting duo of Chris Ford and Dan Sand will periodically mention some Augustana JV standout as well.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

ChicagoView

Thanks so much for the info.  My team last year was one of my favorites.  Found this....  5 of my 6 are featured in this highlight.  Rhode/Peevy (now at a d1) went back and forth between us and other teams.  Hoping all the guys find this kind of success. Scrapped my offense to go 5 out all season.  Beat so many shoe company teams because none of them could shoot like us....In July we lost four games; Meanstreets EYBL in Romeoville, the Family EYBL in Indianoplis (featuring Winston/Bridges now at MSU), MIlwaukee  Spartans and to some team from Australia we had no busy losing too because the coach (me) had a brain fart. LOL.  Love these guys.....

https://youtu.be/wuFcPGyUKoE



AndOne

Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 20, 2016, 02:27:10 PM
Quote from: AndOne on November 20, 2016, 01:50:33 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 19, 2016, 09:50:47 PM
Wow. Mike Schauer just got T'ed up for protesting a bad call in the Pfund title game against Heidelberg. He pretty much boogied a bona-fide buck-and-wing all the way down in front of the Wheaton bench and halfway to the King Arena exit. You'd never know that he attended Wheaton in the era when dancing was verboten at that school. ;)

Mike Schauer is one of the CCIW's most corybantic coaches.

Ooh, nice! I had to look that one up. I'm filing it away for future use. Thanks!

Quote from: AndOne on November 20, 2016, 01:50:33 PMI'm not talking complaining about calls. I'm talking about unrestrained abandon. I'd rank him 3rd on the conference wild-o-meter.  ;D

I might rank him second on that list, with #1 being an obvious choice. Of course, Mike's younger and more nimble than most of his peers.


Just remember where you got that word when you use it.  ;)

I know you will probably disagree, but I'd rank your NPU Coach Tom Slyder in the #2 spot, behind everyone's obvious #1. Last year at NCC Slyder was absolutely insane. In fact, almost every time I have seen him, both his gyrations and vociferousness have been near the top of the scale. During one particular display, after a call with which he disagreed, I thought I saw foam beginning to form at the corners of his mouth.  :o
The odd thing is that as wild as I have observed him being on the road, he has always seemed relatively calm during home games in the NPU crackerbox.  :)

Gregory Sager

"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Gregory Sager

Quote from: AndOne on November 20, 2016, 04:09:56 PMI know you will probably disagree, but I'd rank your NPU Coach Tom Slyder in the #2 spot, behind everyone's obvious #1. Last year at NCC Slyder was absolutely insane. In fact, almost every time I have seen him, both his gyrations and vociferousness have been near the top of the scale. During one particular display, after a call with which he disagreed, I thought I saw foam beginning to form at the corners of his mouth.  :o
The odd thing is that as wild as I have observed him being on the road, he has always seemed relatively calm during home games in the NPU crackerbox.  :)

You're right. I do disagree. Tom is the master of the short, sharp gesture and the occasional emphatic stride, but you won't see the same sort of full-bodied terpischorean splendor that you get from Mike Schauer. Mike's also more peripatetic; he'll walk off a couple of miles' worth of sideline during a typical game.

I'd also rank Tom third on the list of CCIW yellers, behind Grey Giovanine (duh) and Todd Raridon. Those two also top the list of the saltiest CCIW coaches in terms of their vocabulary choices.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Gregory Sager

#43265
Carthage got a nice afternoon from Brad Kruse, who led the Red Men with 19 points (although I suspect that he's gonna get razzed by his teammates for airballing a free throw late in the game). Kienan Baltimore scored 15, and Kevin Kozil looked impressive running the point with 13 points, seven assists, and four steals.

I was surprised by this game, because, based upon what had transpired over the past couple of days I figured that the Red Men would turn this one into a laugher pretty quickly. It didn't turn out that way. RMUP never really threatened, but the Eagles hung around for most of the game, as the lead seemed to bounce back and forth between ten and fourteen points for the better part of the contest. The Red Men did a nice job of running their offense, but they didn't shoot particularly well. In fact, the Eagles outshot them. What with rebounds being basically even, the difference in the game was RMUP's cavalier attitude towards ball security, as the Peorians turned it over a whopping 19 times, and Carthage outscored RMUP on points off turnovers by a 28-10 margin.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Gregory Sager

The CCIW is now 13-7 (.650), which is not a bad start considering that league favorite North Central hasn't even begun its season yet. Six of the league's seven losses belong to Elmhurst and Millikin.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

lmitzel

Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 20, 2016, 04:42:09 PM
Quote from: AndOne on November 20, 2016, 04:09:56 PMI know you will probably disagree, but I'd rank your NPU Coach Tom Slyder in the #2 spot, behind everyone's obvious #1. Last year at NCC Slyder was absolutely insane. In fact, almost every time I have seen him, both his gyrations and vociferousness have been near the top of the scale. During one particular display, after a call with which he disagreed, I thought I saw foam beginning to form at the corners of his mouth.  :o
The odd thing is that as wild as I have observed him being on the road, he has always seemed relatively calm during home games in the NPU crackerbox.  :)

You're right. I do disagree. Tom is the master of the short, sharp gesture and the occasional emphatic stride, but you won't see the same sort of full-bodied terpischorean splendor that you get from Mike Schauer. Mike's also more peripatetic; he'll walk off a couple of miles' worth of sideline during a typical game.

I'd also rank Tom third on the list of CCIW yellers, behind Grey Giovanine (duh) and Todd Raridon. Those two also top the list of the saltiest CCIW coaches in terms of their vocabulary choices.

I feel like we're forgetting about Bosko here (maybe not necessarily language but definitely the yelling). I wouldn't rank him at the top of the list for obvious reasons. Slyder can be up there a bit too, but all I know is Matt Nadelhoffer would rank last on this list. I'd chalk it up as having been influenced by Don Davidson at Aurora Christian, but I went there as well and I like to yell things  Maybe it's me not being a coach. I don't know.
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GoPerry

Quote from: AndOne on November 20, 2016, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 19, 2016, 11:09:17 PM
In case nobody on CCIW Chat has said it yet, I'll be the first: Juco transfer Aston Francis (27 pts tonight) is the real deal. He hit seven of his 13 trey attempts tonight, as Wheaton actually shot 6% better from beyond the arc than it did overall.

Aston Francis looks to be an excellent spot-up shooter. If you don't fight through the screen and let him run to an open spot, he'll likely catch, shoot, and score. The best defense appears to be to body him up as much as possible, and make him put it on the floor because he is going to be a lot less dangerous if he is made to put it on the floor. He is not going to be anywhere near as successful when he is made to try to create off the dribble as he will be when he is allowed to catch and shoot. This was personally observed at the Ben U game, and noticed again while catching the stream of part of last night's game.

After a few games and trying to reserve judgment, yes Francis is definitely a real scorer with a scorer's mentality.  He's done it both spotting up pulling up off the dribble as well.  He reminds me a little of Brayden Teuscher except he doesn't really drive the lane inside to draw the foul much which was what Teuscher did well.

Also very encouraging was Kobe Eichelberger showing some offensive aggresiveness also- willing to drive the lane to draw the foul.  This was sorely lacking last year with Michael Berg the only one willing to do this.  I liked Murad Dillard but he didn't assert himself offensively and we needed that.  Trae Masten was fairly one dimensional shooting nothing but 3s. 

So some pieces are coming together with this team that is encouraging - even if it's just a little more offensive firepower than we've enjoyed of late.  Francis complements Samuelson's classic-spot-upshooter role. Luke Peters is doing a good job controlling the floor and has potential to score also. And now we have Reagan Jones and Eichelberger gaining some confidence.  The team definitely has a ways to go but the trajectory is positive.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: lmitzel on November 20, 2016, 09:45:24 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 20, 2016, 04:42:09 PM
Quote from: AndOne on November 20, 2016, 04:09:56 PMI know you will probably disagree, but I'd rank your NPU Coach Tom Slyder in the #2 spot, behind everyone's obvious #1. Last year at NCC Slyder was absolutely insane. In fact, almost every time I have seen him, both his gyrations and vociferousness have been near the top of the scale. During one particular display, after a call with which he disagreed, I thought I saw foam beginning to form at the corners of his mouth.  :o
The odd thing is that as wild as I have observed him being on the road, he has always seemed relatively calm during home games in the NPU crackerbox.  :)

You're right. I do disagree. Tom is the master of the short, sharp gesture and the occasional emphatic stride, but you won't see the same sort of full-bodied terpischorean splendor that you get from Mike Schauer. Mike's also more peripatetic; he'll walk off a couple of miles' worth of sideline during a typical game.

I'd also rank Tom third on the list of CCIW yellers, behind Grey Giovanine (duh) and Todd Raridon. Those two also top the list of the saltiest CCIW coaches in terms of their vocabulary choices.

I feel like we're forgetting about Bosko here (maybe not necessarily language but definitely the yelling).

Bosko's a barker, not a yeller. :D People who haven't followed the league for more than a decade really can't appreciate how restrained Bosko is nowadays in terms of his vocalizing. Of course, most of the volume he's produced over the years has been in the direction of his players rather than the refs (with whom he's tended to be more of a persuasive attorney than an antagonist), and that booming voice of his has usually been calibrated to cut through crowds and to instruct and direct rather than to admonish. He tends to save his acerbic comments for his timeouts.

Quote from: lmitzel on November 20, 2016, 09:45:24 PMI wouldn't rank him at the top of the list for obvious reasons. Slyder can be up there a bit too, but all I know is Matt Nadelhoffer would rank last on this list. I'd chalk it up as having been influenced by Don Davidson at Aurora Christian, but I went there as well and I like to yell things  Maybe it's me not being a coach. I don't know.

Yep, Matt's the league's most low-key coach on the sidelines, although I haven't watched Carroll coach Paul Combs enough to get a read on his sideline demeanor. Matt Nadelhoffer's understated approach as a game manager has been a good thing, I think, since his Millikin teams have almost always been dominated by a lot of underclassmen who still have steep learning curves, and many younger players don't react well to getting chewed out while they're on the court.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Gregory Sager

Just one game on the docket for tomorrow, but it should be a good one: The Battle of Maple/Chicago Ave.

North Central (0-0) @ Benedictine (1-1)
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

AndOne

Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 20, 2016, 11:38:02 PM
Just one game on the docket for tomorrow, but it should be a good one: The Battle of Maple/Chicago Ave.

North Central (0-0) @ Benedictine (1-1)

Yep, underdog North Central journeys 2.9 miles east on Chicago/Maple Ave. to take on favored Benedictine in the annual tussle. The winner gets The Battle of Chicago/Maple Ave. trophy for the next year.

Hovering over the contest is the question of how many of the expected starters for NCC will actually take the floor for the opening tip? AND, who will be playing what position? Could be a surprise (or 2 or 3) in store.

The Cards will introduce 8 new roster additions tonight. Additionally, new head assistant Steve Schweer will make his NCC coaching debut, and the Cardinals will take the floor attired in their new road uniforms.
JVs at 4:15. Varsity at 7:00. Should be an interesting evening in Lisle.

markerickson

Raridon is like Jim Harbaugh with all the whining, pained facial expressions, and solid coaching ability.  I don't think the whining gets you calls in the long run.
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Titan Q

Quote from: AndOne on November 21, 2016, 03:02:05 PM
Yep, underdog North Central journeys 2.9 miles east on Chicago/Maple Ave. to take on favored Benedictine in the annual tussle. The winner gets The Battle of Chicago/Maple Ave. trophy for the next year.

I consider NCC to be a 5-6 point favorite.  I know the D3hoops.com poll has Benedictine #6 and North Central #13, but the pollsters didn't really do the greatest job factoring in players leaving/returning in many cases in the preseason poll.  I was surprised to see NCC ranked behind BU in the preseason poll, and I will be surprised if BU wins the game tonight.

Either way, certainly a great test for both teams and a game that has big Central Region implications.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: AndOne on November 21, 2016, 03:02:05 PMShould be an interesting evening in Lisle.

Now there's seven words that you don't see in that particular sequence very often.

Quote from: Titan Q on November 21, 2016, 05:40:23 PM
Quote from: AndOne on November 21, 2016, 03:02:05 PM
Yep, underdog North Central journeys 2.9 miles east on Chicago/Maple Ave. to take on favored Benedictine in the annual tussle. The winner gets The Battle of Chicago/Maple Ave. trophy for the next year.

I consider NCC to be a 5-6 point favorite.  I know the D3hoops.com poll has Benedictine #6 and North Central #13, but the pollsters didn't really do the greatest job factoring in players leaving/returning in many cases in the preseason poll.  I was surprised to see NCC ranked behind BU in the preseason poll, and I will be surprised if BU wins the game tonight.

I wouldn't be too surprised, but I agree with Bob that NCC is the true favorite in this contest.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell