MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[4samuy]

Yes, Seibring seems to be toughing it out.  Got better tonight, 5 rebounds etc. Seemed OK on the offensive end, at least in passing and distributing the ball to the shooters.  Nick Coleman surely playing a big part in the IWU success right now.  Brady Rose becoming a more confident overall offensive player.  Rebounding was a weak spot tonight.

Titans need to run the table, or close to it.  13-6, 5-5- now in league play.

I wish WC had somehow upset AC.  Didn't happen.

IWU70

Wouldn't you have preferred Elmhurst upsetting Carthage? I know you would have liked both to happen, but it seems to me that a Carthage loss would have been most beneficial to your Titans.

[iwu70]

4, yes, I was pulling for Elmhurst over CC too.  And, I always support Baines when I can, when not playing IWU! 

Still feel the Titans have to pretty much win out, get into the CCIW tourney, hopefully win at least one game, then perhaps be on the table late in the Selection Sunday conversation.  Not looking all that good given how the Titans are playing at present, injury to Seibring etc.  We'll see.  One game at a time, keep putting up the Ws.

Pink Zone games on Saturday, hopefully a big big crowd to support the good cause, raising money for the Community Cancer Center in B/N.   I'm sure Carroll will put up a good fight vs. the Titans.  IWU women should win easily.  Two games, and honoring 20 years on the 1997 National Championship Team during half-time of the men's game.  Crabtree and company return.  I guess Baines won't be there. 

IWU'70

[AndOne]

WOW!   Shauers post game comments specifically called out the Augustana football players for some of the comments made during the game. He did congratulate Giovanine and the players, but I didn't know he had such a good grasp of the Augie football roster.  Very strange.

Well, to be fair to Mike Schauer, it's usually not hard to determine whether or not a group of college-aged males are football players, even if you don't know who they are.

He really did lay into those Augie football players, though. He said that he complained to Grey about them, and that he's going to give Chris Martin a phone call about them, too. I didn't have the sound up on that game the whole way through (I got tired of the Wheaton broadcasters referring to Dylan "Sore-tee-ya"), but I did hear a popular barnyard epithet chanted a few times from what sounded like a group of males not too far from the camera mic after calls went against Augie.

For several years the most outrageously over-the-line student basketball fans have been those at Augustana. I'm talking about the group of 20-30 that sits/stands in the first couple of rows of bleachers right at about mid court. I don't know if they are football players or not, but I suspect that at least a good percentage are. They regularly assail visiting coaches and players with a variety of obscene comments and otherwise behave like hyenas. I've seen several occasions, both in person and when I've watched Augie home games, when a visiting team had the ball out right near this group and the students stood up literally within a foot or two of the player throwing the ball in, screaming and waving their arms back and forth. The thing is the Augie authorities have never made any move to control the students in any way. Essentially, they are enabling the students obnoxious behavior. Perhaps a good portion of the students who were at Wheaton were members of this group and acted in the same manner that they have been allowed to get away with back on their home turf.

[Gregory Sager]

I see them on Augie broadcasts, although I never hear what they're yelling because they're not close enough to Chris's and Dan's microphones.

They were fairly restrained when NPU visited in December.

[AndOne]

The code of silence on Wofford's dismissal or personal decision to quit the team is holding? Does anyone have any new info on the reason he is gone?  He reportedly is still attending classes and remains a student at Augie. Given the time of year it would not appear to be an academic issue. I hope it is something that can be worked out, so he can return to the team next year, but the secrecy surrounding the way this has played out does not indicate that is likely to happen.

As I said, the fact that Augustana's director of communications issued that statement that Giovanine read and the Quad Cities online newspaper printed seemed to indicate that this was not a voluntary departure from the roster on Wofford's part. That is further supported by the AC @ WC game story in today's qconline.com, which says that Wofford "was removed from the team last Friday for unspecified school violations." That leaves us with something serious enough to force his dismissal from the team but not serious enough to get him expelled.

It's all 100% speculation, but I keep wondering if there was some sort of second chapter to the George Edlund incident from last summer.

Giovanine certainly agrees with you that the loss of Wofford is drastic, as he described Wofford as "our key guy" in the qconline.com game story.

* If I interpreted the original info on this correctly, it seemed like Wofford was the "victim" in the initial incident.
* Given #1, this second round, resulting in action against Wofford, suggests retaliation may have been involved on the part of the victim in the initial incident.
* If Wofford was dismissed "for unspecified school violations," I wonder what type of a action was serious enough to get him kicked off the basketball team, but not out of school given that it was a school violation? 
* Perhaps Wofford's dismissal from the team was a compromise of sorts. Punish him by kicking him off the team, but show "mercy" by letting him remain in school (and paying tuition). 

[Augie6]

Giovanine certainly agrees with you that the loss of Wofford is drastic, as he described Wofford as "our key guy" in the qconline.com game story. He also called Chrishawn Orange "the best player in our conference"; one thing I've noticed about Giovanine is that he's never shy about talking up his players to the point of hyperbole. That may be one of the big reasons why his players love him so much.

That and the fact that he is an excellent coach! 

[kiko]

(Checks NCAA tournament brackets for the past decade...)

Augustana has a football team?  Huh... who knew? 

[iwu70]

Kiko, don't be cruel. 

'70

[kiko]

Kiko, don't be cruel. 

'70

This is Augustana football we're talking about.  It's not only encouraged to pile on, it's considered good manners...

[iwu70]

I hear you.  After reflection, gotta agree with you. 

'70

[Mr. Ypsi]

While their dominance is receding into distant memory, Augie DOES still hold a record not even Mt. Union or Whitewater has managed to tie - FOUR straight Stagg Bowl wins.  Unless UMHB becomes our new overlords, I doubt we'll see that streak matched in our lifetimes.

[kiko]

While their dominance is receding into distant memory, Augie DOES still hold a record not even Mt. Union or Whitewater has managed to tie - FOUR straight Stagg Bowl wins.  Unless UMHB becomes our new overlords, I doubt we'll see that streak matched in our lifetimes.

...has receded.

[augie77]

While their success on the field has clearly "receded", it's clear that the memories are quite raw with some people.   

Back to basketball, evidence suggests the Vikings maintain a program.   

[iwu70]

Indeed so, 77 -- in basketball.  High respect, even with a coat throwing coach. 

I'm just hoping my Titans can get healthier, play better down the stretch, and make the CCIW tournament with something close to 20 wins, at the end of the day.  I'm still hoping for Dance consideration should the win out, or come close to winning out.  Not sure they have the horses at this point . . . looks like 17-8 or so, going into the CCIW tournament.  18-9 not likely dancing territory, even with the strong SOS.  20-7 might do it.

IWU'70

[Titan Q]

* If I interpreted the original info on this correctly, it seemed like Wofford was the "victim" in the initial incident.
* Given #1, this second round, resulting in action against Wofford, suggests retaliation may have been involved on the part of the victim in the initial incident.
* If Wofford was dismissed "for unspecified school violations," I wonder what type of a action was serious enough to get him kicked off the basketball team, but not out of school given that it was a school violation? 
* Perhaps Wofford's dismissal from the team was a compromise of sorts. Punish him by kicking him off the team, but show "mercy" by letting him remain in school (and paying tuition). 

I think you're getting into some real dangerous territory here, Mark. All Greg said was, "I keep wondering if there was some sort of second chapter to the George Edlund incident from last summer."  That's fair and I wonder the same thing.  But, a) there is no evidence that what is going on with Wofford has anything to do with that incident over the summer (in which he was a victim), and b) you are taking things a huge step farther in suggesting that it is related and that Wofford retaliated.  You are speculating on what is just a speculation by Greg -- in a public forum like this, I believe that really crosses the line of what is fair and appropriate.