MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Mr. Ypsi]

3 POINT SHOOTING PERCENTAGES--ALL GAMES

1.North Park.......... 21    184   475  .387
2.Carroll................ 21    168   438  .384
3.Illinois Wesleyan...21    199   525  .379
4.Augustana...........22    127   342  .371
5.Wheaton.............21    166   453  .366
6.Elmhurst............ 22    167   474  .352
7.Carthage............ 21    158   467  .338
8.North Central.......22    144   438  .329
9.Millikin............... 22    133   418  .318

3 POINT SHOOTING PERCENTAGES--CONFERENCE GAMES ONLY

1.Carroll................ 12     96   244  .393
2.North Park.......... 12    110   287  .383
3.Wheaton..............12     92   249  .369
4.Augustana............13     72   196  .367
5.Illinois Wesleyan...12    107   295  .363
6.Elmhurst............. 13     91   265  .343
7.Carthage............. 12     94   282  .333
8.North Central....... 13     84   259  .324
9.Millikin................ 13     71   227  .313

Me thinks that NCC needs to add some 3pt threats!

Well, you've got a guy on the bench shooting .421 this season.  Alas, he is in street clothes sitting near his dad.

[iwu70]

Perhaps the more important stat is how many threes are made per game, not the %.  The purpose of the game is to score the most points, at least more than your opponent. 

IWU'70

[markerickson]

Thanks for those stats, AndOne!!!  I am surprised that IWU has attempted by far more treys than anyone and Augie has by far the fewest.  And I thought NPU over-relied on the trey.

Perhaps the Carthage camera angles, which showed the rows closest to the court with just glimpses of the ends, did not show the Red Men's fan base.  I would expect fans to sit very close to the action and just saw a vast majority of seats being unoccupied from what the cameras gave me.

[sac]

The online Carthage announcers mentioned that NPU foes shoot 40% beyond the arc.  Last night the Red Men shot 52% (12/23) from beyond the arc.  I do not know if a majority of CCIW teams now shoot at least 40% from that range.  I do know that 33% from trey equals 50% from inside the arc.  Attendance at last night's game in Kenosha was posted at 834, but having watched the game, that number was exaggerated by at least 500 people.  NPU should go 3-1 down the stretch to guarantee its first ever qualification into the conference tourney.

Through Wednesday, NPU opponents over the whole season are shooting 39.2 percent from deep, but CCIW opponents are just a hair over 40 percent against them this season. As for what everyone inconference is shooting, no one is over 40 for the year, either in conference or overall (edited because I found the stats.)

Thats been the case for the previous 2 years as well
http://www.cciw.org/custompages/CCIW_Links/MBasketball/Stats/1516/CONFLDRS.HTM
http://www.cciw.org/custompages/CCIW_Links/MBasketball/Stats/1415/CONFLDRS.HTM
http://www.cciw.org/custompages/CCIW_Links/MBasketball/Stats/1314/confldrs.htm

There are only 16 teams shooting 40% or better from the 3-pt line in D3 this year.

[AndOne]

3 POINT SHOOTING PERCENTAGES--ALL GAMES

1.North Park.......... 21    184   475  .387
2.Carroll................ 21    168   438  .384
3.Illinois Wesleyan...21    199   525  .379
4.Augustana...........22    127   342  .371
5.Wheaton.............21    166   453  .366
6.Elmhurst............ 22    167   474  .352
7.Carthage............ 21    158   467  .338
8.North Central.......22    144   438  .329
9.Millikin............... 22    133   418  .318

3 POINT SHOOTING PERCENTAGES--CONFERENCE GAMES ONLY

1.Carroll................ 12     96   244  .393
2.North Park.......... 12    110   287  .383
3.Wheaton..............12     92   249  .369
4.Augustana............13     72   196  .367
5.Illinois Wesleyan...12    107   295  .363
6.Elmhurst............. 13     91   265  .343
7.Carthage............. 12     94   282  .333
8.North Central....... 13     84   259  .324
9.Millikin................ 13     71   227  .313

Me thinks that NCC needs to add some 3pt threats!

Well, you've got a guy on the bench shooting .421 this season.  Alas, he is in street clothes sitting near his dad.

Ya, but that kid is transferring next year, so the Cardinals still need some shooters. 

[AndOne]

Thanks for those stats, AndOne!!!  I am surprised that IWU has attempted by far more treys than anyone and Augie has by far the fewest.  And I thought NPU over-relied on the trey.

Perhaps the Carthage camera angles, which showed the rows closest to the court with just glimpses of the ends, did not show the Red Men's fan base.  I would expect fans to sit very close to the action and just saw a vast majority of seats being unoccupied from what the cameras gave me.

Glad to be of service, Mr. Mark! 

[4samuy]

Thanks for those stats, AndOne!!!  I am surprised that IWU has attempted by far more treys than anyone and Augie has by far the fewest.  And I thought NPU over-relied on the trey.

Perhaps the Carthage camera angles, which showed the rows closest to the court with just glimpses of the ends, did not show the Red Men's fan base.  I would expect fans to sit very close to the action and just saw a vast majority of seats being unoccupied from what the cameras gave me.

Glad to be of service, Mr. Mark! 

Yeah, that's good stuff.  It is interesting to see a team like Augustana, in this day and age, leading the conference this late in the year and by far has shot the fewest # of treys.  It would be interesting to see how many conferences where the that would be the case for the team leading the conference.

[Titan Q]

Illinois Wesleyan (15-6, 7-5) at Carthage (15-6, 8-4), 7:00pm...

Illinois Wesleyan (15-6, 7-5)
G - Brady Rose, 6-3 Jr.  14.8 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.6 apg
G - Colin Bonnett, 6-4 So.  10.6 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.9 apg
G - Andy Stempel, 6-4 Sr.  11.6 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.7 apg
F - Alec Bausch, 6-6 Sr.  8.9 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 2.1 apg
F - Trevor Seibring, 6-8 Sr.  12.0 ppg, 5.7 rpg

G - Nick Coleman, 6-1 So.  8.4 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 2.4 apg

Carthage (15-6, 8-4)
G - Jordan Thomas, 5-11 So.  10.7 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 1.7 apg
G - Kevin Kozil, 6-1 Sr.  8.4 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 4.8 apg
F - Mike Stevenson, 6-4 Sr.  16.0 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 2.2 apg
F - Brad Kruse, 6-4 Jr.  9.9 ppg, 6.3 ppg, 3.1 apg
C - Brad Perry, 6-11 Fr.  10.1 ppg, 6.1 rpg

F - Kienan Baltimore, 6-5 Fr.  10.4 ppg, 3.8 rpg


Pantagraph - http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/men/iwu-carthage-set-for-key-cciw-tilt/article_92b39707-2850-575b-9f7e-f8ce9cffd94f.html

Video - https://www.carthage.edu/multimedia/

Live Stats - http://www.sidearmstats.com/carthage/mbball/

WJBC Radio - https://portal.stretchinternet.com/wjbc/

Massey - Illinois Wesleyan 75 Carthage 74  http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cb2017&sub=11620

[Titan Q]

Obviously a huge game in Kenosha tonight for both teams.  There is just simply a lot on the line in this one...

* Carthage is still in the title race - it's not unrealistic to think Carthage and Augustana could both finish 12-4. And the Red Men would probably win a 12-4 tie with Augie based on the Red Men's sweep of North Park.

* IWU is fighting to, 1) make the CCIW tournament and, 2) land a 2 or 3 seed.  A win tonight for the Titans means a sweep of Carthage -- IWU would win a tie with the Red Men if it finished that way.  The Titans can still make the tournament with a loss tonight but a win would really make that path much easier.

* There are significant conference tournament implications for Carthage tonight too.  If the Red Men get swept by IWU, they could end up the 4-seed (since they'd lose a tie-breaker with IWU). Obviously much better to be the 2 or 3.

* And last but certainly not least, huge NCAA tournament implications on the line tonight. In the first regional ranking this week, IWU (.714 WP, .552 SOS) was ranked and Carthage (.700 WP, .567 SOS) was not...due in large part to IWU's win over the Red Men.  If IWU sweeps the series, that ranking stays right there...a Carthage win tonight would almost certainly flip the ranking.  The order of IWU and Carthage in the regional rankings is really significant for both teams because the higher ranked team will have a pretty good Pool C chance...the lower most likely will be on the wrong side of the bubble.  Both of these teams are fighting to be the CCIW's 2nd highest regionally ranked team behind Augie (currently North Park).

In IWU's win in Bloomington the Titans were without 6-8 Trevor Seibring...he's now back and has played very well the last two games (vs Carroll - 14 pts, 5 reb, 6-8 FG; vs Elmhurst - 16 pts, 11 reb, 6-8 FG). The Titans are a much different team when Seibring is on the floor and healthy.

This certainly isn't a winner-take-all game for the title, but it's hard for me to think of a conference game with more post-season implications than this one.  Should be a great crowd at Tarble and a tight game between two very even teams.  Looking forward to watching!

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Carthage turns its attention to Illinois Wesleyan, which visits for a 7 p.m. game on Saturday. The Titans were ranked 22nd when they beat the Red Men, 77-74, on Jan. 14.

"It's the biggest game we've played in a while here," Djurickovic said. "You're going to have a crowd of 1,500-1,800 people and it'll be quite electric."

http://kenoshanews.com/sports/another_wild_one_491826509.php

[4samuy]

As the regular winds down to the last few weeks, I thought I'd throw out some current stats for a couple of All Americans who will most likely be part of the few in the player of the year discussion. Jordan Robinson (North Park) and Joey Flannery (Babson).

                Gms pts/g. Fg%  3p% Ft % Rb/g A/g   min
J Robinson  21  23.4   56.9  46.3  69.6   9.2  3.57 34.0
J Flannery   21  22.3   44.8  39.4  87.0   6.9  4.0   33.2

             

Based on some D3 blogs I've read, It seems to be a forgone conclusion that Flannery will win the award based on a one loss #1 ranked Beaver squad, which is quite understandable, along with Flannerys outstanding talent and NPUs recent losses.  But I've got to tell you, playing along side a second team preseason All American (Juwan Henry) who wants, needs and flourishes with the ball in his hands, makes what Robinson has done, maybe even more remarkable.  I've seen both Robinson and Flannery play in person this year and was quite impressed with how both players let the game come to them and don't seem to force things even when they seem to be struggling, which isn't very often.

[Gregory Sager]

Current Massey:

  11. Augustana
  26. Carthage
  29. Illinois Wesleyan
  40. North Park
  59. North Central
107. Wheaton
123. Carroll
203. Elmhurst
311. Millikin

Massey sez:

@ Elmhurst 72, Millikin 63 (EC 81%, MU 19%)
@ Wheaton 81, North Park 80 (WC 52%, NPU 48%)
Illinois Wesleyan 75, @ Carthage 74 (IWU 51%, CC 49%)
Augustana 76, @ Carroll 68 (AC 77%, CU 23%)

[Gregory Sager]

As the regular winds down to the last few weeks, I thought I'd throw out some current stats for a couple of All Americans who will most likely be part of the few in the player of the year discussion. Jordan Robinson (North Park) and Joey Flannery (Babson).

                Gms pts/g. Fg%  3p% Ft % Rb/g A/g   min
J Robinson  21  23.4   56.9  46.3  69.6   9.2  3.57 34.0
J Flannery   21  22.3   44.8  39.4  87.0   6.9  4.0   33.2

             

Based on some D3 blogs I've read, It seems to be a forgone conclusion that Flannery will win the award based on a one loss #1 ranked Beaver squad, which is quite understandable, along with Flannerys outstanding talent and NPUs recent losses.  But I've got to tell you, playing along side a second team preseason All American (Juwan Henry) who wants, needs and flourishes with the ball in his hands, makes what Robinson has done, maybe even more remarkable.  I've seen both Robinson and Flannery play in person this year and was quite impressed with how both players let the game come to them and don't seem to force things even when they seem to be struggling, which isn't very often.

There's two reasons why I think Flannery is the favorite for POY, neither of which has anything to do with how they compare to each other as basketball players. One is, as you mentioned, the fact that Babson is flourishing while NPU is enduring late-season struggles. The other factor is that Flannery is a senior and Robinson is a junior, and I'm sure that some of the d3hoops.com folks will figure, "Well, you have to give it to the senior, because Robinson will get another shot at it next year." I hate that it comes down to that kind of thinking, but it often does in this type of situation.

I was at the same Babson @ Chicago game as you, and I was highly impressed by Flannery, whom I had only seen before via livestream. Any comparison I make between him and Jordan will be biased, so I'll hold off on that and will simply say that the NPU junior forward is every bit a worthy candidate for d3hoops.com POY.

[AndOne]

(IMHO) a BIG question re the above discussion involving the possible POY-------
Who has faced tougher competition?
I think that should have something to do with the voting. But will it, or will the voters just look primarily at the stat lines, and any press that has been generated during the season?

[AndOne]

Current Massey:

  11. Augustana
  26. Carthage
  29. Illinois Wesleyan
  40. North Park
  59. North Central
107. Wheaton
123. Carroll
203. Elmhurst
311. Millikin

Massey sez:

@ Elmhurst 72, Millikin 63 (EC 81%, MU 19%)
@ Wheaton 81, North Park 80 (WC 52%, NPU 48%)
Illinois Wesleyan 75, @ Carthage 74 (IWU 51%, CC 49%)
Augustana 76, @ Carroll 68 (AC 77%, CU 23%)

Millikin does not play tonight.
Elmhurst does not play at home. 

What Massey really sez is:
@ North Central 78, Elmhurst 68 (NC 83%, EC 17%)

[iwumichigander]

(IMHO) a BIG question re the above discussion involving the possible POY-------
Who has faced tougher competition?
I think that should have something to do with the voting. But will it, or will the voters just look primarily at the stat lines, and any press that has been generated during the season?

Alas, voters likely look at W/L team and stat lines versus SOS or who you played.  The NEWMAC is not the CCIW however, Babson did not exactly play cupcakes in non-conference.  With