MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I would have liked coach Brennan to congratulate Augustana for a great game in the post game interview as most coaches do at all levels.  I will say that since he's never been in the position as a national champ, I will give him a pass.

Are you talking about the Hoopsville interview with Dave?  If so, you have to remember he's done a full press conference and a half dozen one on one interviews before he got there and already had a lot to say by that point.

The first thing both coaches said in their Press Conferences were how great their opponent played.

[4samuy]

I would have liked coach Brennan to congratulate Augustana for a great game in the post game interview as most coaches do at all levels.  I will say that since he's never been in the position as a national champ, I will give him a pass.

Are you talking about the Hoopsville interview with Dave?  If so, you have to remember he's done a full press conference and a half dozen one on one interviews before he got there and already had a lot to say by that point.

The first thing both coaches said in their Press Conferences were how great their opponent played.

No. I was speaking of the CBS sports network interview just after the game ended when both he and Flannery were interviewed.

[Gregory Sager]

North Park's first recruit is Scott Olsen, a 6'4 shooting guard from Plainfield East.

I doubt that it ultimately makes any difference, but it always feels like a good omen when the first one commits this early.

[AndOne]

North Park's first recruit is Scott Olsen, a 6'4 shooting guard from Plainfield East.

I doubt that it ultimately makes any difference, but it always feels like a good omen when the first one commits this early.

Per Twitter...

Dark Horse Recruits‏ @dhrecruits 
#DarkHorse 2017 6'4 F Chamar Flanigan (Glenbard North HS) just committed to play college basketball at North Park University (D3).

As reported by TQ on 3/18, I think North Park's first recruit for next year was Chamar Flanigan from Glenbard North. 

[WUPHF]

Congratulations to Augustana on a great season and a great run in the tourney.  Already looking forward to December 2017 when Coach Grey and company make the trip down to St. Louis.

[Gregory Sager]

North Park's first recruit is Scott Olsen, a 6'4 shooting guard from Plainfield East.

I doubt that it ultimately makes any difference, but it always feels like a good omen when the first one commits this early.

Per Twitter...

Dark Horse Recruits‏ @dhrecruits 
#DarkHorse 2017 6'4 F Chamar Flanigan (Glenbard North HS) just committed to play college basketball at North Park University (D3).

As reported by TQ on 3/18, I think North Park's first recruit for next year was Chamar Flanigan from Glenbard North. 

Wrong.

High-school seniors can tweet whatever they like, and people can re-post those tweets on the internet if that's what they feel inclined to do ... and anybody is certainly welcome to embrace those posts as gospel truth if that's what they wish. But a bona-fide recruit in D3 is somebody who has made a tuition deposit for the subsequent school year, or accepted and signed for a non-athletic scholarship from that school. (Even then it's not 100% written in stone, although there aren't many parents who would let their children walk away from a large sum of money that's been submitted as a non-refundable deposit for their college education.)

The NPU coaches have received other verbal commitments prior to Flanigan (I suppose that in the social-media age a tweet constitutes a verbal commitment). You haven't heard about any of those verbal commitments from me, nor will you. But you'll hear very quickly from me when they put their money down and make it official.

As I tell other North Park fans vis-a-vis recruiting, don't count it a gain 'til the money's in Old Main.

[WUPHF]

But a bona-fide recruit in D3 is somebody who has made a tuition deposit for the subsequent school year, or accepted and signed for a non-athletic scholarship from that school. (Even then it's not 100% written in stone, although there aren't many parents who would let their children walk away from a large sum of money that's been submitted as a non-refundable deposit for their college education.)

Two hundred bucks!

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

North Park's first recruit is Scott Olsen, a 6'4 shooting guard from Plainfield East.

I doubt that it ultimately makes any difference, but it always feels like a good omen when the first one commits this early.

Per Twitter...

Dark Horse Recruits‏ @dhrecruits 
#DarkHorse 2017 6'4 F Chamar Flanigan (Glenbard North HS) just committed to play college basketball at North Park University (D3).

As reported by TQ on 3/18, I think North Park's first recruit for next year was Chamar Flanigan from Glenbard North. 

Wrong.

High-school seniors can tweet whatever they like, and people can re-post those tweets on the internet if that's what they feel inclined to do ... and anybody is certainly welcome to embrace those posts as gospel truth if that's what they wish. But a bona-fide recruit in D3 is somebody who has made a tuition deposit for the subsequent school year, or accepted and signed for a non-athletic scholarship from that school. (Even then it's not 100% written in stone, although there aren't many parents who would let their children walk away from a large sum of money that's been submitted as a non-refundable deposit for their college education.)

The NPU coaches have received other verbal commitments prior to Flanagan (I suppose that in the social-media age a tweet constitutes a verbal commitment). You haven't heard about any of those verbal commitments from me, nor will you. But you'll hear very quickly from me when they put their money down and make it official.

As I tell other North Park fans vis-a-vis recruiting, don't count it a gain 'til the money's in Old Main.

I don't count it until Nov 15th. If they're on the floor, then it's a pretty good bet they'll be playing at least first semester.

[Pat Coleman]

First recruit ...
First committed recruit ...
First recruit that shows up for orientation ...
First recruit that shows up for practice ...
Recruits suited up on opening night ...

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

First recruit ...
First committed recruit ...
First recruit that shows up for orientation ...
First recruit that shows up for practice ...
Recruits suited up on opening night ...

...gets into a game.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Greg - not sure what you were hearing, but my note had Sortillo with the "LLs" emphasized and I was quite sure I was saying the Ls. If that isn't how it came across, I apologize, but it was part of what I was trying to say. I know early in the semis I may have faltered, but I had been running around and had forgotten to look at my note until after we had gotten underway. Lincoln Rose, my broadcast partner, was saying it, so I know it was on my mind.

[Gregory Sager]

Yes, yes, we all understand the progression. Because there's no ironclad commitment to playing basketball, or any other sport, at a D3 school, nobody is ever a sure thing even once he or she has started classes. You don't count upon an 18-year-old until he's actually in the layup line on November 15. Heck, even after that point a student-athlete can always turn in his or her uniform and walk away. But for recruiting purposes, it's all about the deposit. As for verbal commitments ... well, there's a reason why the old expression "talk is cheap" is such a popular cliché. Ask any D3 coach about the high school kids who've told him that they're going to play for him who never ended up enrolling at his school.

[Gregory Sager]

Greg - not sure what you were hearing, but my note had Sortillo with the "LLs" emphasized and I was quite sure I was saying the Ls. If that isn't how it came across, I apologize, but it was part of what I was trying to say. I know early in the semis I may have faltered, but I had been running around and had forgotten to look at my note until after we had gotten underway. Lincoln Rose, my broadcast partner, was saying it, so I know it was on my mind.

You did say "Sore-tee-yo" a couple of times during the championship game, Dave. I probably made a bigger deal out of it than I should've -- I've never worked a national championship game, so as a fellow broadcaster I of all people should be the one giving you some latitude. I only mentioned it because the Wheaton student broadcasters mispronounced his name for the full forty minutes of the AC @ WC game, and it really grated on my nerves.

[Pat Coleman]

Even committing is relatively cheap, my man. It commits you to nothing other than having sent some money to the school. Nothing to do with athletics and nothing to say you can't then enroll elsewhere.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Greg - not sure what you were hearing, but my note had Sortillo with the "LLs" emphasized and I was quite sure I was saying the Ls. If that isn't how it came across, I apologize, but it was part of what I was trying to say. I know early in the semis I may have faltered, but I had been running around and had forgotten to look at my note until after we had gotten underway. Lincoln Rose, my broadcast partner, was saying it, so I know it was on my mind.

You did say "Sore-tee-yo" a couple of times during the championship game, Dave. I probably made a bigger deal out of it than I should've -- I've never worked a national championship game, so as a fellow broadcaster I of all people should be the one giving you some latitude. I only mentioned it because the Wheaton student broadcasters mispronounced his name for the full forty minutes of the AC @ WC game, and it really grated on my nerves.

I certainly didn't want to say it incorrectly. In my notes section is the pronunciation (which wasn't that hard to find from the terrific notes and info from Dave Wrath). I apologize if I did. I have no excuse, though the weekend was a blur.