MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[AndOne]

A (pretty nice  ) shot.

At 4:25:28................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHfauEbByFU

[Titan Q]

An impressive alley-oop connection from Zach Knobloch to Miles Curry...

https://twitter.com/IWUhoopscom/status/934943538818764801

[Greek Tragedy]

A (pretty nice  ) shot.

At 4:29:28................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHfauEbByFU

The video is only 4:29:20

[unanimous22]

Thinking about driving down to North Park for the Oshkosh game this week. Several questions 1) Is it safe to park there and 2) Are the Parkers good enough to compete with the Titans?

That wasn't several questions it was two.

1) No, so please stay away

2) Probably?

[AndOne]

A (pretty nice  ) shot.

At 4:29:28................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHfauEbByFU

The video is only 4:29:20

Oops. My bad. Make that 4:25:28

[all blues]

  NP was able to beat U of C the other night, attempting only FIVE FTs the entire game.  U of C attempted only SIX.  I do not recall in 30+ years seeing numbers that low.

Not missing by much; free throws were 4-6, 4-7 when Millikin played Webster the other night.

[newCCIWfan]

  NP was able to beat U of C the other night, attempting only FIVE FTs the entire game.  U of C attempted only SIX.  I do not recall in 30+ years seeing numbers that low.

Not missing by much; free throws were 4-6, 4-7 when Millikin played Webster the other night.

2 Thoughts ---

1) The North Park v Chicago game featured two teams combining for 59 three-pointers taken (UC - 29, NP - 30) ... Chicago only attempted 18 non 3's and NP 19. Generally speaking my hunch is that is relatively few shots in the area where fouls tend to be called.

2) In the Millikin v Webster game ... both teams played a substantial amount of zone -- 35% of MU's defensive possessions were zone, while 43% of Webster's were zone. Again --- generally speaking --- teams tend to settle for perimeter jumpers when attacking a zone which tends to lead to fewer foul calls.

[AndOne]

  NP was able to beat U of C the other night, attempting only FIVE FTs the entire game.  U of C attempted only SIX.  I do not recall in 30+ years seeing numbers that low.

Not missing by much; free throws were 4-6, 4-7 when Millikin played Webster the other night.

2 Thoughts ---

1) The North Park v Chicago game featured two teams combining for 59 three-pointers taken (UC - 29, NP - 30) ... Chicago only attempted 18 non 3's and NP 19. Generally speaking my hunch is that is relatively few shots in the area where fouls tend to be called.

2) In the Millikin v Webster game ... both teams played a substantial amount of zone -- 35% of MU's defensive possessions were zone, while 43% of Webster's were zone. Again --- generally speaking --- teams tend to settle for perimeter jumpers when attacking a zone which tends to lead to fewer foul calls.

Not sure what it does to the thinking/analysis, but Chicago took 28 (not 18) two point shots and 29 threes for a total of 57, and NPU took 29 (not 19) two point shots, and 30 threes for a total of 59.

[WUPHF]

I remember seeing those stats and thinking the same thing.

I was a little surprised to see a moderately high number of steals and turnovers given the number of fouls.  That does not necessarily mean anything, but it seems as though they were letting them play.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I mean it makes sense that a program like Rochester can lose it's top 3 scorers from last years team, still be ranked 16th, but losing that 4th senior would have been the nail in the coffin for their pre-season poll hopes. Whitewater lost 4 starters...

Traditionally strong programs not from the west coast have lost a majority of their scoring and or players and not been dropped off the face of the d3 earth, from a polls standpoint. I would have thought Whitworth would be afforded the same luxury. They were not. That's all.

Sorry to circle back on this, but your comparison irked me even if I did read it days later.

Rochester had a team that was on the doorstep of the final four, looked incredible last year, and did return some key parts from that unit. Whitworth did not even look close to as good last year as everyone is accustomed and lost 4 starters to a team that Whitman beat three times and CMS beat in the first round of the NCAA tournament.

Whitworth returned 41% of their scoring, 36% of their rebounding. Whitworth was 21st in last year's final ranking and lost a ton.

Rochester returned 45% of scoring and 60% of rebounding from a team, again, that nearly made the final four. Rochester was 6th in the final ranking and lost quite a bit.

You just aren't making a fair comparison.

Whitworth is on my radar, but nothing with their first five games convinced me to vote for them this poll.

IWU - I might have missed on. I was desperately looking around for another team to vote for and I discounted IWU. That said, I discounted a LOT of teams based on a lot who are undefeated played basically no one. IWU probably deserved to be on my ballot as much as two or three others. I'm still watching.

[wheels81]

Like to see Ricky Samuleson on the D3 team of the week with stat line like this over first 3 games.
16/20 from 3 pt, averaging over 30 pts game in first 3 games.

http://wheaton_ftp.sidearmsports.com/custompages/mbball/mbbarchivedstats/2018/plyr_22.htm

[Greek Tragedy]

Like to see Ricky Samuleson on the D3 team of the week with stat line like this over first 3 games.
16/20 from 3 pt, averaging over 30 pts game in first 3 games.

http://wheaton_ftp.sidearmsports.com/custompages/mbball/mbbarchivedstats/2018/plyr_22.htm

Are you saying I should add him to my fantasy team?

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Looking at Mr. Nester's list of How the Top 25 Fared, lots of ranked teams suffered losses this week.  Now might be the time for a Titan national ranking.

The men's "How They Fared" ALWAYS has lots of red ink.  CMS was 15th and went 0-4 - might be a record!  There will be some new teams in this week's top 25, but for IWU to jump all the way from zero points to ranked is highly unlikely.  Most of the five they beat are very decent teams, but none were ranked.  Jumping straight into the rankings from nowhere happens only when (in football) you beat someone like then #3 Whitewater; if 2-3 of the teams we beat had been highly ranked, then sure, but not when none were ranked.

I'll take it as a sign that women's basketball has TRULY arrived when the women's "How They Fared" has anywhere near as much red ink on a regular basis - most weeks there is very little red.

I only know how I'm voting, Ypsi, but I would be surprised if IWU isn't in the Top 25 this week.  An undefeated CCIW team with name recognition?  With the rest of the country looking like a triage unit?  They're going from zero points to a decent amount on my ballot.  I'd rather not put anyone 6-10, but those spots have to be filled, so nearly everyone on my ballot will be overrated.

You were right.  I was wrong.  http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2017-18/week-1

[AndOne]

Like to see Ricky Samuleson on the D3 team of the week with stat line like this over first 3 games.
16/20 from 3 pt, averaging over 30 pts game in first 3 games.

http://wheaton_ftp.sidearmsports.com/custompages/mbball/mbbarchivedstats/2018/plyr_22.htm

I second the nomination! ⛹ 🏀
Saw him hit 8 of 9 threes in the first game of the season. Awesome.
He's currently 17 of 22 from downtown Wheaton.

[unanimous22]

Looking at Mr. Nester's list of How the Top 25 Fared, lots of ranked teams suffered losses this week.  Now might be the time for a Titan national ranking.

The men's "How They Fared" ALWAYS has lots of red ink.  CMS was 15th and went 0-4 - might be a record!  There will be some new teams in this week's top 25, but for IWU to jump all the way from zero points to ranked is highly unlikely.  Most of the five they beat are very decent teams, but none were ranked.  Jumping straight into the rankings from nowhere happens only when (in football) you beat someone like then #3 Whitewater; if 2-3 of the teams we beat had been highly ranked, then sure, but not when none were ranked.

I'll take it as a sign that women's basketball has TRULY arrived when the women's "How They Fared" has anywhere near as much red ink on a regular basis - most weeks there is very little red.

I only know how I'm voting, Ypsi, but I would be surprised if IWU isn't in the Top 25 this week.  An undefeated CCIW team with name recognition?  With the rest of the country looking like a triage unit?  They're going from zero points to a decent amount on my ballot.  I'd rather not put anyone 6-10, but those spots have to be filled, so nearly everyone on my ballot will be overrated.

You were right.  I was wrong.  http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2017-18/week-1

I think he meant "wouldn't be surprised" so you're both wrong lol