MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Gregory Sager]

Buena Vista outran Elmhurst down the stretch to a 74-66 victory at Faganel. Ryan Patton, who fouled out in the waning seconds of the game, was the only 'jay in double figures with 14 points.

It was a weird game. BVU presses for 40 minutes, and yet it was only 27-18 at the half in Elmhurst's favor. The Beavers finally got their transition game going and just plain wore down EC as the second half went on. The 'jays drop to 5-3 on the season.

[Gregory Sager]

Emory used to charge a fee for their high definition broadcast and I assume they still do.  That game may be worth the charge.

I guess that Emory's $6.4 billion endowment doesn't stretch as far as one might think it would.

Ha, ha!

You would know better than I, but it seems to me that the value of the PR from the free distribution of the broadcast would be much greater than the value of the upcharge.  Emory must give away a lot of free codes to recruits, family and alumni.  Maybe more people pay the fee than I think.

Maybe that is how Emory keeps a $6.4 B endowment .
Seriously, Emory current campus was enabled by $1.0 million and gift of 75 acres from Asa Chandler, founder of Coca-Cola. Asa's brother was president of Emory. He made other gifts in subsequent years. 

And, Robert Woodruff, Presient of Coca-Cola, and the Woodruff Foundation has given close to $1.0 billion over the years since 1979. The 1979 gift separately included a 1979 value of $105 million of Coca-Cola stock.  Given the stock splits, dividends and price increases that has to be close to another $1.0 billion. 
Having lived in Atlanta, Emory's now 740 acre campus is prime real estate just outside the City of Atlanta.

Just like Washington—the rich get richer.
Beyond a school that can certainly handle whatever cost may be involved in streaming a game, what I hate about charging to see a game is that it just particularly seems like a screw job to fans of the visiting team. How many Green Team fans are going all the way to Atlanta? Same applies to any fans whose team is playing a considerable distance from home. They should be able to view their team play for free. Who knows what Midwest kid might see the broadcast and decide to investigate Emory as a possible college choice. JMHO.

As WUH surmised, a school that charges for streaming video access is shooting itself in the foot. Broadcasting athletics events on the Internet is a tremendous PR resource for a school in terms of keeping alumni in touch with the school, putting a good foot forward to the public (if the broadcast is done properly), and functioning as a recruiting tool. Given that the majority of D3 schools that stream their games offer it for free, it only makes Emory look miserly by comparison.

Of course, this is a UAA school that we're talking about, and UAA schools have dramatically different missions and priorities than do the schools with which most of us are familiar. I wonder if whichever administrator made the call to charge people to stream Emory events even cares a fig about EU sports.

[AndOne]

New to the boards and a long-time Thunder fan. A major gut-check for my squad tomorrow as they play at No. 7 Whitworth. Aston will get his shots, Samuelson needs more shots if we stand a fighting chance. I was in attendance for Wheaton's frustrating loss to Alma last week and overheard the Alma head coach telling his players to "find 1 and 22" on every defensive possession down the stretch, which highlights criticisms of the Thunder mentioned before that we simply don't have another option to go to offensively. I really feel that Spencer Peterson needs to step up in that regard, seeing that he is the only true muscle we have inside and he actually has a decent post game when he actually decides to set up shop on the block. Could do without his 12% shooting from the three point arc, and would much rather him stay down low and be patient enough to draw fouls and take advantage of his 80+% freethrow shooting. If Whitworth only has to worry about Francis and Samuelson, it could be a very long night for my Thunder in Spokane.

Welcome to the board duckfan!

I have not seen Whitworth play so I'm not sure how good they are.  Puget Sound seems to be their only quality win along with edging NCC ( another team that I'm equally miffed about) on a neutral court.  But I trust the pollsters and their ranking.  In matching up with Wheaton, seeing a 6'8" 240 lb Ben Bishop and 6'6" 218 lb Jared Christy gives me more than a little pause defensively.  The Thunder have had to deal with someone like that practically every game, sometimes successfully sometimes not so much.  Luke Peters will try to contain College and if he can, then who knows?  Kobe Eichelberger is due – if only for the fact that the Pirates might not know he can only drive right.  Samuelson still leading D3 in 3pt% and is looking very comfortable out there.  Maybe an opened up west coast style will free him up more?  Certainly someone else needs to step up with some offense.  Can we stay within 10 on rebounding?

If Peterson is shooting only 12% from distance you would think Schauer might order him not to take any threes, and to get his butt down inside.

In addition to Eichelberger only being able to drive right, I've observed he doesn't seem to have ever heard of catch and shoot, or one or two dribbles and pull up for a mid range jumper. In the opening tournament, I think every time he received a pass, it was shot fake, and then drive right to the basket. It worked then, but teams will, or at least should, get wise. Stay down on the shot fake, and make him go left and you eliminate the majority of his potential to hurt you.

[duckfan41]

New to the boards and a long-time Thunder fan. A major gut-check for my squad tomorrow as they play at No. 7 Whitworth. Aston will get his shots, Samuelson needs more shots if we stand a fighting chance. I was in attendance for Wheaton's frustrating loss to Alma last week and overheard the Alma head coach telling his players to "find 1 and 22" on every defensive possession down the stretch, which highlights criticisms of the Thunder mentioned before that we simply don't have another option to go to offensively. I really feel that Spencer Peterson needs to step up in that regard, seeing that he is the only true muscle we have inside and he actually has a decent post game when he actually decides to set up shop on the block. Could do without his 12% shooting from the three point arc, and would much rather him stay down low and be patient enough to draw fouls and take advantage of his 80+% freethrow shooting. If Whitworth only has to worry about Francis and Samuelson, it could be a very long night for my Thunder in Spokane.

Welcome to the board duckfan!

I have not seen Whitworth play so I'm not sure how good they are.  Puget Sound seems to be their only quality win along with edging NCC ( another team that I'm equally miffed about) on a neutral court.  But I trust the pollsters and their ranking. In matching up with Wheaton, seeing a 6'8" 240 lb Ben Bishop and 6'6" 218 lb Jared Christy gives me more than a little pause defensively.  The Thunder have had to deal with someone like that practically every game, sometimes successfully sometimes not so much.  Luke Peters will try to contain College and if he can, then who knows? Kobe Eichelberger is due – if only for the fact that the Pirates might not know he can only drive right.  Samuelson still leading D3 in 3pt% and is looking very comfortable out there.  Maybe an opened up west coast style will free him up more?  Certainly someone else needs to step up with some offense.  Can we stay within 10 on rebounding?

Thank you for the welcome Perry! I've followed the boards as a bystander for much of this season and finally decided to try my luck to get approved to talk with y'all. Regarding the Pirates bigs, we match up with them height-wise, (especially since I always notice fairly generous 6'6's and above from most D3 rosters), but not having an Andy Weile, Spencer Schultze, or Nate Haynes build holds the likes of Jay Spencer and Trevor Gunter back from being the difference makers they can definitely be. Against Alma, Peters seemed to still be favoring his ankle that he injured against IWU, so heres to hoping the days off gave him enough time to recover fully to be ready for the task. A consistent negative I've noticed in our recent losses is the rebounding margin. If Kobe can use the freakish athleticism I've seen him exhibit, Trevor can do the dirty work he always does, and Jay Spencer and Spencer Peterson can hold their own (avoid foul trouble for Jay who consistently picks up close to 4 fouls every game) the rebounding margin could be held near even (hopefully). In that case I like our chances, but it'll definitely be a war if we can manage to control the boards somehow.

[duckfan41]

New to the boards and a long-time Thunder fan. A major gut-check for my squad tomorrow as they play at No. 7 Whitworth. Aston will get his shots, Samuelson needs more shots if we stand a fighting chance. I was in attendance for Wheaton's frustrating loss to Alma last week and overheard the Alma head coach telling his players to "find 1 and 22" on every defensive possession down the stretch, which highlights criticisms of the Thunder mentioned before that we simply don't have another option to go to offensively. I really feel that Spencer Peterson needs to step up in that regard, seeing that he is the only true muscle we have inside and he actually has a decent post game when he actually decides to set up shop on the block. Could do without his 12% shooting from the three point arc, and would much rather him stay down low and be patient enough to draw fouls and take advantage of his 80+% freethrow shooting. If Whitworth only has to worry about Francis and Samuelson, it could be a very long night for my Thunder in Spokane.

Welcome to the board duckfan!

I have not seen Whitworth play so I'm not sure how good they are.  Puget Sound seems to be their only quality win along with edging NCC ( another team that I'm equally miffed about) on a neutral court.  But I trust the pollsters and their ranking.  In matching up with Wheaton, seeing a 6'8" 240 lb Ben Bishop and 6'6" 218 lb Jared Christy gives me more than a little pause defensively.  The Thunder have had to deal with someone like that practically every game, sometimes successfully sometimes not so much.  Luke Peters will try to contain College and if he can, then who knows?  Kobe Eichelberger is due – if only for the fact that the Pirates might not know he can only drive right.  Samuelson still leading D3 in 3pt% and is looking very comfortable out there.  Maybe an opened up west coast style will free him up more?  Certainly someone else needs to step up with some offense.  Can we stay within 10 on rebounding?

If Peterson is shooting only 12% from distance you would think Schauer might order him not to take any threes, and to get his butt down inside.

In addition to Eichelberger only being able to drive right, I've observed he doesn't seem to have ever heard of catch and shoot, or one or two dribbles and pull up for a mid range jumper. In the opening tournament, I think every time he received a pass, it was shot fake, and then drive right to the basket. It worked then, but teams will, or at least should, get wise. Stay down on the shot fake, and make him go left and you eliminate the majority of his potential to hurt you.

AO, that has been my biggest hope for Schauer to tell him. He's the closest thing we have to a true "load" inside and I feel that is where he will be most effective, especially as a rebounding presence for when Aston fires away.

Kobe has been opening up his playing style a bit these last couple games. In terms of why he doesn't look to catch and shoot, his shot is very slow, so the defender often closes in time to make what would be a lightly contested 3 for Aston or Samuelson with how quick their releases can be. Here's to hoping Kobe can use the athleticism to catch guys off guard the rest of the season and go left off of his shot-fake rather than the robotic right for two or three dribbles, jump stop, and jump out of the gym over the reach of the typical defender he faces.

[AndOne]

duckfan,

Maybe Eichelberger is like me in at least one respect. Maybe he can't go left.
When I played I had a hard time going left even if my defender was on my right hip when I caught a pass. My left hand may as well have been a club. 

[iwu70]

Yes, Emory's pay wall is irritating.  That's a super rich, beautiful campus.  More Coke money bubbling out of their endowment stock holdings by the moment.   A dear friend of mine is Dean of the Candler School of Theology there @Emory.  They have lovely facilities, top flight programs.  You'd think they'd want to promote their athletics a bit more freely -- instead of charging to watch D3 sports.  Oh well, middle of the night for me anyway -- I won't be watching.  See the score the next morning.

The Titans need to check the gut, get a win in Chicago tonight.

'70

[Titan Q]

Illinois Wesleyan (7-2, 2-1) at Chicago (4-4, 0-0), 7pm...

Illinois Wesleyan (7-2, 2-1)
G - Nick Coleman, 6-2/185 Jr.  5.9 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.6 apg
G - Brady Rose, 6-3/185 Jr.  19.4 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 3.0 apg
G - Colin Bonnett, 6-4/190 Jr.  11.0 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 3.0 apg
F - Jaylen Beasley, 6-6/185 Sr.  8.1 ppg, 8.1 rpg
C - Alex O'Neill, 6-9/245 So. 9.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg

Chicago (4-4, 0-0)
G - Jordan Baum, 6-3/185 So.  6.6 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 4.9 apg
G - Jake Fenlon, 6-4/190 Sr.  21.3 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 1.0 apg
G - Noah Karras, 6-4/190 Jr.  9.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg
G - Justin Jackson, 6-4/205 Jr.  6.8 ppg, 3.3 apg
F - Collin Barthel, 6-8/220 Sr.  10.0 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 3.1 apg


Pantagraph - http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/illinois-wesleyan/iwu-looks-to-regroup-quickly-for-game-at-chicago/article_22e0680b-e4e0-5298-aebd-4faf6cad4e91.html

WJBC Radio - https://portal.stretchinternet.com/wjbc/

Video: https://uchicago.prestosports.com/sports/mbkb/live-video

Stats: http://athletics.uchicago.edu/sports/mbkb/2017-18/boxscores/20171219_ott2.xml

[mwunder]

Michael,

According to the Kenosha News, it said Jordan Thomas had been sick for a few days.  Expected to play tonight and I see he started.

Thank you KMark

[mwunder]

I wonder how long it's going to take Bosko to start Johnson over Leazer with the numbers that Leazer is putting up?

Only 11 minutes last night with essentially a full roster following up a 15 minute span with a missing Thomas...minutes are drying up quickly.

[duckfan41]

duckfan,

Maybe Eichelberger is like me in at least one respect. Maybe he can't go left.
When I played I had a hard time going left even if my defender was on my right hip when I caught a pass. My left hand may as well have been a club. 

I too know the struggle all to well. Only thing I can do well left-handed is hit, otherwise I don't understand why my left arm is even there 

[Gregory Sager]

Carthage easily topped Washington & Lee last night in Miami on the first leg of the annual Bosko Djurickovic Tanning Tour, 85-67. Jordan Thomas led the way with a nice 23 and 7 game for the Red Men, while Brad Kruse added 20 points and 5 blocks and Derek Mason chipped in with 16 points. Carthage blocked a whopping 15 shots by the Generals, as Sean Johnson (6) and Brad Perry (4) joined Kruse in the swat-a-thon.

I wonder how long it's going to take Bosko to start Johnson over Leazer with the numbers that Leazer is putting up?

Only 11 minutes last night with essentially a full roster following up a 15 minute span with a missing Thomas...minutes are drying up quickly.

It doesn't seem to have brought Johnson any closer to the starting lineup, though. Kruse is now playing power forward for the Red Men, and he seems to be excelling in the role. I'm not sure that Bosko wants Johnson and Perry on the floor at the same time.

[voxelmhurst]

Buena Vista outran Elmhurst down the stretch to a 74-66 victory at Faganel. Ryan Patton, who fouled out in the waning seconds of the game, was the only 'jay in double figures with 14 points.

It was a weird game. BVU presses for 40 minutes, and yet it was only 27-18 at the half in Elmhurst's favor. The Beavers finally got their transition game going and just plain wore down EC as the second half went on. The 'jays drop to 5-3 on the season.

I don't know when the last time I saw an EC opponent have more different halves than Buena Vista did last night. Fast break points 24-2 in favor of Buena Vista, as Elmhurst more or less was run off the court for much of the second half. EC's leading scorers on the season Jake Rhode and Jeremy Ireland really struggled in this one, combining for just 13 points on 5-21 shooting. Patton had 14 as mentioned and Lavon Thomas, who started ahead of Lance Gardner, as well as Colin Bomstad both had 9 for the Jays. Both Bomstad and Peyton Samson had solid appearances off the bench.

Elmhurst is in Lisle on Thursday evening to play Benedictine.

[duckfan41]

I'm interested to see how Wesleyan responds today after the clinic they received from WashU on Sunday. U Chicago can let it rip from three, so we'll see if the Titans defense can handle another potential onslaught from deep for the second time in three days. I look for Rose and Bonnett to have better games as they both had more shot attempts than points at the end of the first half on Sunday. U Chicago certainly isn't WashU, but should still be an entertaining game, and it's always hard to win on the road.

[deiscanton]

Yes, Emory's pay wall is irritating.  That's a super rich, beautiful campus.  More Coke money bubbling out of their endowment stock holdings by the moment.   A dear friend of mine is Dean of the Candler School of Theology there @Emory.  They have lovely facilities, top flight programs.  You'd think they'd want to promote their athletics a bit more freely -- instead of charging to watch D3 sports.  Oh well, middle of the night for me anyway -- I won't be watching.  See the score the next morning.

The Titans need to check the gut, get a win in Chicago tonight.

'70

Emory does not charge a fee for standard definition-- their fee is for a high definition stream.  Another UAA school, Rochester, has a complete video paywall, and it is really irritating.  One would think that with all of the halftime ads on the Emory stream that the Eagles could get rid of that high definition video fee.  I posted a rant about this on the UAA Men's basketball forum.