MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Mr. Ypsi]

MS, now you're going back before Greg's time frame. Being just a young whipper-snapper, he only has followed for 39 years: Gramkow graduated 48 years ago and Price 50!  (Not that we are getting old, or anything! )  While Tommy will always be super-special to us (I think he could have been unanimously elected mayor of Bloomington after the ISU game!), I don't recall him as being overall in Raymond's league.  And while Jesse Price would certainly be in the conversation for greatest CCIW player ever, wasn't he a forward?

[iwu70]

Well, Ypsi, I just thought I'd throw in a bit of vintage for the Board to consider.  I somehow remember Jesse Price as a guard.  Yes, Tommy Gramkow was pretty grand, at least to us -- and those late 60s teams, winning CCIW and heading for Kansas City!  Those were the days, heh?

We'll see where Brady Rose ends up in the firmament of CCIW guards after next season.  We all agree, Raymond was just awesome.  Hard to top him on a career basis.  (only a few others 2 or 3 time MOP, or POY, or Josten winners, right?). 

'70

[Titan Q]

#24-Illinois Wesleyan (13-3, 6-1) at Carroll (5-11, 1-6), 4pm...

#24-Illinois Wesleyan (13-3, 6-1)
G - Brady Rose, 6-3/185 Jr.  22.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 3.2 apg
G - Colin Bonnett, 6-4/190 Jr.  12.6 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.7 apg
G - Jason Gregoire, 6-4/195 Jr.  5.8 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.9 apg
F - Jaylen Beasley, 6-6/185 Sr.  6.7 ppg, 6.8 rpg
C - Alex O'Neill, 6-9/245 So.  7.9 ppg, 5.6 rpg

Carroll (5-11, 1-6)
G - Joel Heesch, 6-2/170 Sr.  10.8 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 3.1 apg
G - Nick Penny, 6-2/185 So.  5.3 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.6 apg
G - Tanner Zaeske, 6-3/190 Sr.  9.9 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.8 apg
F - Kale Maupin, 6-4/190 So.  3.5 ppg, 3.2 rpg
F - Tyler Ingebrightsen, 6-7/225 Jr.  8.6 ppg, 2.7 rpg


Pantagraph: http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/men/iwu-hits-cciw-halfway-mark-at-carroll/article_11d0c13d-c9e7-5574-af6b-70f90a7a07f2.html

WJBC Radio: https://portal.stretchinternet.com/wjbc/

Video: https://portal.stretchinternet.com/carroll/#

Live Stats: http://www.sidearmstats.com/carrollu/mbball/

[Gregory Sager]

Tonight's games:
Augustana (13-3, 5-2) @ North Park (4-11, 1-6)
Illinois Wesleyan (13-3, 6-1) @ Carroll (5-11, 1-6)
Carthage (9-7, 4-3) @ Millikin (8-8, 1-6)
North Central (12-4, 5-2) @ Elmhurst (10-6, 3-4)
Illinois Tech (11-5) @ Wheaton (12-4)

Massey sez:

Augustana 74, North Park 62	AC 87%, NPU 13%
Illinois Wesleyan 73, Carroll 66	IWU 74%, CU 26%
Carthage 71, Millikin 64	CC 75%, MU 25%
North Central 80, Elmhurst 74	NCC 71%, EC 29%
Wheaton 82, Illinois Tech 73	WC 82%, IIT 18%

[bbfan44]

I know that people went to Wheaton games to see Kent Raymond.  Do people go to IWU games because of young Mr Rose?

[Titan Q]

I know that people went to Wheaton games to see Kent Raymond.  Do people go to IWU games because of young Mr Rose?

I have exit polling data from all IWU games this year that confirms this is a "yes."

[iwumichigander]

I know that people went to Wheaton games to see Kent Raymond.  Do people go to IWU games because of young Mr Rose?

I have exit polling data from all IWU games this year that confirms this is a "yes."

from my personal perspective, it is a yes.  And, I do not make the six hour trip casually.

[bbfan44]

Polls...ask Hillary about polls.  But, if "gander" really drives six hours just to see Rose play.... Rose is either his nephew, or Rose is in good company....but, I don't think of him when I think of Steve, Raymond, or even good old what's his name from Augie a few years back.   Maybe I will by the end of his career.

[izzy stradlin]

I once walked 8 hours hours in the snow with no coat with below zero windchill to watch Raymond play.   Top that.

[John Gleich]

Tonight's games:
Augustana (13-3, 5-2) @ North Park (4-11, 1-6)
Illinois Wesleyan (13-3, 6-1) @ Carroll (5-11, 1-6)
Carthage (9-7, 4-3) @ Millikin (8-8, 1-6)
North Central (12-4, 5-2) @ Elmhurst (10-6, 3-4)
Illinois Tech (11-5) @ Wheaton (12-4)

Massey sez:

Augustana 74, North Park 62	AC 87%, NPU 13%
Illinois Wesleyan 73, Carroll 66	IWU 74%, CU 26%
Carthage 71, Millikin 64	CC 75%, MU 25%
North Central 80, Elmhurst 74	NCC 71%, EC 29%
Wheaton 82, Illinois Tech 73	WC 82%, IIT 18%

Massey doesn't look like it's updated for this week's games. At least Wednesday's weren't in the several teams I looked at.

[duckfan41]

#24-Illinois Wesleyan (13-3, 6-1) at Carroll (5-11, 1-6), 4pm...

#24-Illinois Wesleyan (13-3, 6-1)
G - Kent Raymond, 6-3/185 Jr.  22.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 3.2 apg
G - Colin Bonnett, 6-4/190 Jr.  12.6 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.7 apg
G - Jason Gregoire, 6-4/195 Jr.  5.8 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.9 apg
F - Jaylen Beasley, 6-6/185 Sr.  6.7 ppg, 6.8 rpg
C - Alex O'Neill, 6-9/245 So.  7.9 ppg, 5.6 rpg

Carroll (5-11, 1-6)
G - Joel Heesch, 6-2/170 Sr.  10.8 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 3.1 apg
G - Nick Penny, 6-2/185 So.  5.3 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.6 apg
G - Tanner Zaeske, 6-3/190 Sr.  9.9 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.8 apg
F - Kale Maupin, 6-4/190 So.  3.5 ppg, 3.2 rpg
F - Tyler Ingebrightsen, 6-7/225 Jr.  8.6 ppg, 2.7 rpg


Pantagraph: http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/men/iwu-hits-cciw-halfway-mark-at-carroll/article_11d0c13d-c9e7-5574-af6b-70f90a7a07f2.html

WJBC Radio: https://portal.stretchinternet.com/wjbc/

Video: https://portal.stretchinternet.com/carroll/#

Live Stats: http://www.sidearmstats.com/carrollu/mbball/

Fixed it for you!

[iwumichigander]

Polls...ask Hillary about polls.  But, if "gander" really drives six hours just to see Rose play.... Rose is either his nephew, or Rose is in good company....but, I don't think of him when I think of Steve, Raymond, or even good old what's his name from Augie a few years back.   Maybe I will by the end of his career.

Rose is in good company 

Rose versus Raymond - there are some similarities.  Both missed a year - Raymond a sabbatical year and Rose a medical year.  An opponent had/has to game plan for each.  Both deadly free throw shooters.
Stevie D was in his own category.  You are right in that we will all need to wait until the end of Rose career.. The point Q was making, before others got their shorts in a wringer, Rose and Raymond very similar numbers. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Polls...ask Hillary about polls.  But, if "gander" really drives six hours just to see Rose play.... Rose is either his nephew, or Rose is in good company....but, I don't think of him when I think of Steve, Raymond, or even good old what's his name from Augie a few years back.   Maybe I will by the end of his career.

iwumichigander has been regularly coming from SE Michigan to attend games in Bloomington for many years, including not only before Brady Rose, but before Ron Rose.  He is one DEDICATED fan!

[voxelmhurst]

Halftime at RA Faganel...

North Central 47
Elmhurst 44

Elmhurst finished the half on a 13-0 run  after North Central led 47-31.

Both teams shooting the ball well. Cardinals with a slight rebound advantage which has led to some second chance points.

[Hoosiersfan2323]

I know that people went to Wheaton games to see Kent Raymond.  Do people go to IWU games because of young Mr Rose?

Legitimate question: who is the CCIW player that people come out to see the most? Gotta think it's a three-horse race between Rose, Aston Francis, and Alex Sorenson. I've seen all three and my personal view is that's Francis is the player for whom I'd be most likely to drop everything to go see. Thoughts?