MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[lmitzel]

Here is my All-CCIW team..

1st
Nyameye Adom (Wheaton), 6-1 So. G
Matt Cappelletti (North Central), 6-5 Sr. F
Derek Dotlich (Elmhurst), 6-3 Sr. F
Matt Leritz (Illinois Wesleyan), 6-7 So. F
Micah Martin (Augustana), 6-11 Sr. C
Connor Raridon (North Central), 6-6 Sr. F
Jake Rhode (Elmhurst), 5-11 Jr. G
Pierson Wofford (Augustana), 6-3 Sr. F

2nd
Kienan Baltimore (Carthage), 6-5 Sr. F
Tyson Cruickshank (Wheaton), 5-11 So. G
Austin Elledge (Augustana), 6-0 Sr. G
Jordon Kedrowski (Carthage), 6-4 Sr. G
Pete Lambesis (Illinois Wesleyan), 6-4 So. G
Toby Marek (North Park), 6-1 Jr. G
Blaise Meredith (North Central), 6-4 Jr. G
Nick Penny (Carroll), 6-2 Sr. G


Fred Young Most Outstanding Player: Connor Raridon (North Central)

Coach of the Year: Todd Raridon (North Central)

Freshman of the Year: Luke Yoder (Illinois Wesleyan)

Isn't Lambesis a more complete player than Leritz? I think that in addition to his offensive skills, we've heard about his guarding the opposition's primary backcourt/wing player. It seems that the possibility exists that they be flipped as far as 1st and second teams.

To what extent does the voting still follow the fairly often seen, rather traditional "allotment" of 3 players from the first and second place teams and 2 from each from the third and fourth teams?
I ask because it seems the most obvious exclusion from the above list is Elmhurst's Lavon Thomas.
Thomas appears in the upper regions of more statistical categories that Augie's Elledge who is a top flight shooter, but whose contributions are limited beyond his shooting capabilities. Thomas is certainly more of two way player when you factor in his contributions on the defensive end. And, despite Mr. Elledge being known for his shooting/scoring, Mr. Thomas actually outscored him by a point in the conference portion of the season.

Lastly, if the voting is done purely on the basis of basketball skills, Kienan Baltimore clearly merits inclusion on the first team. However, as has been alluded to in previous entries, I believe by more than one poster, there might be some reluctance by certain voters to exclude him from a first team ballot or two.

We'll learn the voters thoughts/preferences soon as the lists of the first and second team All-Conference players is scheduled to be released at 1:00 today.

And the results are out!

The Raridon's sweep the Fred Young Most Outstanding Player and Coach of the Year awards, while Luke Yoder takes home Freshman of the Year honors.

Augie's Pierson Wofford, Elmhurst's Jake Rhode, North Central's Connor Raridon and Matt Cappelletti, and Wheaton's Nyameye Adom are unanimous First Teamers, joined by Augie's Micah Martin, Carthage's Kienan Baltimore, and IWU's Matthew Leritz.

Austin Elledge of Augie, Nick Penny of Carroll, Derek Dotlich and Lavon Thomas of Elmhurst, Peter Lambesis of IWU, Blaise Meredith of NCC, Toby Marek of North Park, and Tyson Cruickshank of Wheaton made the Second Team.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

The Week 3 men's regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-third

[lmitzel]

The Week 3 men's regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-third

The data sheets aren't up to date (the Central, at least, is still from 2/16). But they're really holding firm to that head to head BenU-NCC game, aren't they?

(I know the Eagles have better vRRO results beyond just that one game, but still.)

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I'll have to check ... but that is probably on NCAA's side. They will be there eventually even if it requires us bugging them.

[Hightops]

I have a hard time understanding why Derek Dotlich was not a first team selection:

* Senior who played all 25 games and averaged 32.2 minutes (top seven in minutes played).
* 4th leading scorer in the conference with 16.3ppg.
* Top 10 in FG% @ 414%.
* Top Free throw shooter in the conference at 94%
* Conference Leader in average 3pt FG makes per game with 3.

Head scratcher for sure...

[lmitzel]

I have a hard time understanding why Derek Dotlich was not a first team selection:

* Senior who played all 25 games and averaged 32.2 minutes (top seven in minutes played).
* 4th leading scorer in the conference with 16.3ppg.
* Top 10 in FG% @ 414%.
* Top Free throw shooter in the conference at 94%
* Conference Leader in average 3pt FG makes per game with 3.

Head scratcher for sure...

Who on the First Team would you swap Dotlich in for?

(I don't necessarily disagree; I probably would have had him on the First Team as well, but it's the question to ask.)

[Hightops]

I have a hard time understanding why Derek Dotlich was not a first team selection:

* Senior who played all 25 games and averaged 32.2 minutes (top seven in minutes played).
* 4th leading scorer in the conference with 16.3ppg.
* Top 10 in FG% @ 414%.
* Top Free throw shooter in the conference at 94%
* Conference Leader in average 3pt FG makes per game with 3.

Head scratcher for sure...

Who on the First Team would you swap Dotlich in for?

(I don't necessarily disagree; I probably would have had him on the First Team as well, but it's the question to ask.)

I would have placed him on the first team over Matt Leritz, IWU.  While Leritz has a good body of work as of late, Dotlich was good for the entire year.

[Gregory Sager]

Why isn't Crishawn Cook playing for Carthage?

Did we ever get an answer to this question?

Yes, it was answered on Saturday evening here on CCIW Chat. Cook was sidelined by a thumb injury. There was nothing further said regarding his status for the CCIW tourney.

[AndOne]

The Week 3 men's regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-third

The data sheets aren't up to date (the Central, at least, is still from 2/16). But they're really holding firm to that head to head BenU-NCC game, aren't they?

(I know the Eagles have better vRRO results beyond just that one game, but still.)

I'll have to check ... but that is probably on NCAA's side. They will be there eventually even if it requires us bugging them.

Let the bugging begin.
Benedictine is supposedly 3rd while NCC IS 4th.
BU's SOS is .506 while NCC's is .538
BU's winning % is .080 while NCC's is .084 against much stiffer competition.
Yes, BU beat NCC early in the season with a major player who is no longer on BU's roster while NCC revamped it's rotation which subsequently moved forward to post a W in 17 of it's last 18 games.

[Gregory Sager]

The Week 3 men's regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-third

The data sheets aren't up to date (the Central, at least, is still from 2/16). But they're really holding firm to that head to head BenU-NCC game, aren't they?

(I know the Eagles have better vRRO results beyond just that one game, but still.)

I'll have to check ... but that is probably on NCAA's side. They will be there eventually even if it requires us bugging them.

Let the bugging begin.
Benedictine is supposedly 3rd while NCC IS 4th.
BU's SOS is .506 while NCC's is .538
BU's winning % is .080 while NCC's is .084 against much stiffer competition.
Yes, BU beat NCC early in the season

Everything in this quote above is completely relevant.

with a major player who is no longer on BU's roster while NCC revamped it's rotation which subsequently moved forward to post a W in 17 of it's last 18 games.

Everything in this quote above is completely irrelevant.

[AndOne]

I have a hard time understanding why Derek Dotlich was not a first team selection:

* Senior who played all 25 games and averaged 32.2 minutes (top seven in minutes played).
* 4th leading scorer in the conference with 16.3ppg.
* Top 10 in FG% @ 414%.
* Top Free throw shooter in the conference at 94%
* Conference Leader in average 3pt FG makes per game with 3.

Head scratcher for sure...

Who on the First Team would you swap Dotlich in for?

(I don't necessarily disagree; I probably would have had him on the First Team as well, but it's the question to ask.)

I would have placed him on the first team over Matt Leritz, IWU.  While Leritz has a good body of work as of late, Dotlich was good for the entire year.

Hightops,

A strong case for Dotlich being first team can certainly be made. However, fair or not, the 4th place (based on tie-braking rules) team in the conference was not going to get as many first team selections as the 1st and 2nd place teams. And IWU, as the third place team, was not going to be shut out of a first team spot. Thats just the way things work. Also, with EC filling 3 of the 16 spots between the two teams, there isn't much room to quibble about proper placement, especially considering the strength of the competition. 🤔

[Pat Coleman]

The Week 3 men's regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-third

The data sheets aren't up to date (the Central, at least, is still from 2/16). But they're really holding firm to that head to head BenU-NCC game, aren't they?

(I know the Eagles have better vRRO results beyond just that one game, but still.)

I'll have to check ... but that is probably on NCAA's side. They will be there eventually even if it requires us bugging them.

Let the bugging begin.
Benedictine is supposedly 3rd while NCC IS 4th.
BU's SOS is .506 while NCC's is .538
BU's winning % is .080 while NCC's is .084 against much stiffer competition.
Yes, BU beat NCC early in the season

Everything in this quote above is completely relevant.

with a major player who is no longer on BU's roster while NCC revamped it's rotation which subsequently moved forward to post a W in 17 of it's last 18 games.

Everything in this quote above is completely irrelevant.

This is about a broken wrist, right?

[AndOne]

The Week 3 men's regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-third

The data sheets aren't up to date (the Central, at least, is still from 2/16). But they're really holding firm to that head to head BenU-NCC game, aren't they?

(I know the Eagles have better vRRO results beyond just that one game, but still.)

I'll have to check ... but that is probably on NCAA's side. They will be there eventually even if it requires us bugging them.

Let the bugging begin.
Benedictine is supposedly 3rd while NCC IS 4th.
BU's SOS is .506 while NCC's is .538
BU's winning % is .080 while NCC's is .084 against much stiffer competition.
Yes, BU beat NCC early in the season

Everything in this quote above is completely relevant.

with a major player who is no longer on BU's roster while NCC revamped it's rotation which subsequently moved forward to post a W in 17 of it's last 18 games.

Everything in this quote above is completely irrelevant.

Yes, everything is a fraud, and a hoax. Thank you Mr. President
By the way, BU lost to Hope, MSOE, Wis Lutheran, Concordia-Chicago, and Concordia, Wis. But that's probably not relevant in the scope of things either. 😏

[GoPerry]

And the results are out!

The Raridon's sweep the Fred Young Most Outstanding Player and Coach of the Year awards, while Luke Yoder takes home Freshman of the Year honors.

Augie's Pierson Wofford, Elmhurst's Jake Rhode, North Central's Connor Raridon and Matt Cappelletti, and Wheaton's Nyameye Adom are unanimous First Teamers, joined by Augie's Micah Martin, Carthage's Kienan Baltimore, and IWU's Matthew Leritz.

Austin Elledge of Augie, Nick Penny of Carroll, Derek Dotlich and Lavon Thomas of Elmhurst, Peter Lambesis of IWU, Blaise Meredith of NCC, Toby Marek of North Park, and Tyson Cruickshank of Wheaton made the Second Team.

Absence of Jordon Kedrowski is a surprise to me.  Don't know who I would replace him with as I haven't studied the stats.   

[AndOne]

Again, I sense Kedrowski's absence is due in large part, to Carthage's place in the final conference standings. 🤔
The 6th place team isn't getting more than one representative, and that was always going to be Baltimore.