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augie77

Quote from: BigRedScots on March 16, 2020, 02:54:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 16, 2020, 02:42:38 PM
Good for them. Are there a lot of teams getting into airplanes in the Missouri HS tournament?

Pat, if you are saying that air travel isn't safe right now then by closing every college in the country that would be a bad move. Numerous students are hoping on a flight home and thus putting them in harms way. I don't think flying is any more dangerous than going for a walk right now.

Again, I'm not saying there should be games being played right now, but i strongly disagree with everything being cancelled. Maybe there is information out there that we don't know.

There are also reports of other countries sending us fake reports to scare the USA. We live in a weird time - that's for sure.

Along with fake coffins and death reports?  Seriously??

Gregory Sager

Two of my nephews play on a homeschool team (my brother-in-law is the head coach) that qualified for the national homeschool tournament, which was going to be played in Missouri.

It was canceled a week ago because of the pandemic.
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kiko

Quote from: BigRedScots on March 16, 2020, 02:54:47 PM
I don't think flying is any more dangerous than going for a walk right now.

Well, let me revise my earlier reply...

Quote from: kiko on March 16, 2020, 01:19:18 AM
You have confirmed that you have not I am not convinced you have fully grasped the breadth and depth of exactly what we are dealing with here.

Pat Coleman

We live in a weird time. Some people are living in a weirder time than others.
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SpartanHouse

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Quote from: augie77 on March 16, 2020, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on March 16, 2020, 02:54:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 16, 2020, 02:42:38 PM
Good for them. Are there a lot of teams getting into airplanes in the Missouri HS tournament?

Pat, if you are saying that air travel isn't safe right now then by closing every college in the country that would be a bad move. Numerous students are hoping on a flight home and thus putting them in harms way. I don't think flying is any more dangerous than going for a walk right now.

Again, I'm not saying there should be games being played right now, but i strongly disagree with everything being cancelled. Maybe there is information out there that we don't know.

There are also reports of other countries sending us fake reports to scare the USA. We live in a weird time - that's for sure.

Along with fake coffins and death reports?  Seriously??

You lost me.

Didn't say anything about deaths. There are numerous fake news reports going around. https://twitter.com/WHNSC/status/1239398218292748292 this one went wild at work today.

To your point - if we shut down events bc someone died from a sickness in our country...then we'd never have any events.

Again, all I'm saying is, IMO, cancelling seasons/tournaments were too drastic/pre-mature. 

My employer just announced work from home for 2 weeks and we will re-access. That sounds very rational. In two weeks we could be better or could be worse and a longer more drastic measures would be needed.

SpartanHouse

Comments from Gonzaga's Head Coach Mark Few

Gonzaga, I remind you, is in the state of Washington...hardest hit state in the Country.

"Extremely, extremely disappointed," Few told Davis. "I think all of us felt we could postpone and even postpone into May or whatever, and if we needed to cancel, we could cancel then. But if that's what they're doing, then I guess that's what they're doing."

"Again, we may or may not have gotten to this conclusion at some point, but I think we probably could have at least paused and delayed it before we did this. But again, there's so many things that are factored in, so I'll leave that up to the NCAA."

"I knew right then and there (after Gobert's test results) that the dynamic was changing, and everything kind of amped up after that," Few said. "I think the NBA made the proper move. I think we were all hoping the NCAA would make the proper move and we'd just postpone, hoping that maybe at a later date we could pick this thing back up. It doesn't sound like we can, so we'll have to move on from there."

Few said the coaches he spoke with from top programs agreed that a postponement could provide a chance to stage the tournament later, provided safety and health concerns were satisfied. May Madness, instead of March Madness, became a popular topic on social media outlets.



Mr. Ypsi

Final poll is up: NCC jumps from 11 to 6, Elmhurst jumps from 15 to 10, and IWU gets 6 points.

Concerning the Covid pandemic:  in light of the total fustercluck about testing, I would strongly suggest that the actual situation is much worse than is 'officially' known - actual cases are probably 2-3 times higher than reported, and how many recent deaths attributed to pneumonia have actually been due to Covid-19?

iwu70

Ypsi, at least 2-3 times more.  Testing is key, otherwise you have no idea at all.   In the early stages of the China outbreak in Hubei, same thing.  No one really knew how many cases, how many deaths.  We likely will never know, as many never got near a hospital or a test.  The grim, dark humour in Hong Kong about all this is "how many zeroes should we add."   I hope this same dark humour does not apply to the US in the coming weeks.  Listen to Fauci's truth-telling and follow the leadership example of Gov. Cuomo in NY. 

So sorry to see the tournament and all that great basketball lost . . . but we live in extremely serious, dangerous days in terms of public health, domestically and globally.  Hong Kong just decided to quarantine incoming visitors from ALL countries . . . so we are now an island of public health rigour and sanity here, with no wide-spread community outbreak.  We're at 157 cases in a city of 7.8 million.  I don't know if this is going to last, but we are holding our own, holding the line pretty well, so far.  All of our recent cases are incoming, blow back cases from other hot spots, other epicentres of outbreak.  Wish us luck to hold back the tide . . .

All best to all the chatsters and fans here on the Board.  Wishing you all safety and good health.  Take all precautions and prepare for what is coming as the pandemic roars further into the US.  Wash your hands like Lady MacBeth and support all sensible, required public health efforts.  Social distancing, wearing masks, work from home, avoid gatherings, seek immediate needed health care, protect front line health workers and doctors, . . .  all efforts and endeavours play a part.  Give a donation to your local hospital system, as they are going to need extra resources and support. 

Stay positive and do pro-active things to keep your spirits up, to keep your sanity.  It's going to last awhile.  We're in our 15-16 week here in HK and the work-from-home, online semester via ZOOM and other platforms has just been extended further, past April 20th.  We're in this for the longer haul, it would certainly appear. 

IWU'70

Gregory Sager

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WUPHF

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 16, 2020, 12:55:13 PM
As I have said several times ... I don't have a problem with their decision to close the gym to fans ... I did have a problem of them blaming it on Maryland cases 60 some-odd miles away AND continuing to play other events on their campus. Their concern, understandably with one case known ahead of time and another popping up related to Yeshiva on the day of the game, was Yeshiva and likely their fans especially from New York. You just couldn't tell for sure who had been in contact with whom and such. But they didn't say there was a concern with Yeshiva's connections at the time to the coronavirus. They blamed it on something else in Maryland that NO ONE in Maryland was reacting to - including themselves with other events (despite being an outdoor lacrosse game, people weren't sitting ten feet from one another). [...]

But, here is what we know to be the case in hindsight...

-60 miles may as well be 0.6 miles or closer.
-Virus transmission through breathing is different inside than it is outside.
-The public reaction was going to trail the institutional reaction.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: WUPHF on March 18, 2020, 01:55:45 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 16, 2020, 12:55:13 PM
As I have said several times ... I don't have a problem with their decision to close the gym to fans ... I did have a problem of them blaming it on Maryland cases 60 some-odd miles away AND continuing to play other events on their campus. Their concern, understandably with one case known ahead of time and another popping up related to Yeshiva on the day of the game, was Yeshiva and likely their fans especially from New York. You just couldn't tell for sure who had been in contact with whom and such. But they didn't say there was a concern with Yeshiva's connections at the time to the coronavirus. They blamed it on something else in Maryland that NO ONE in Maryland was reacting to - including themselves with other events (despite being an outdoor lacrosse game, people weren't sitting ten feet from one another). [...]

But, here is what we know to be the case in hindsight...

-60 miles may as well be 0.6 miles or closer.
-Virus transmission through breathing is different inside than it is outside.
-The public reaction was going to trail the institutional reaction.

Not entirely true about outside when people are sitting shoulder to shoulder...
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kiko

Whose POV do you find most credible in this context?

(A) The leadership at a leading medical research institution, who will bear any risk exposure from whatever decision is made

(B) The expert in D3 sports

augie77

Does anyone really believe Johns Hopkins made a rash decision devoid of well-considered medical considerations?

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: augie77 on March 18, 2020, 07:44:51 PM
Does anyone really believe Johns Hopkins made a rash decision devoid of well-considered medical considerations?

No.  I just think they weren't honest about what they were doing or why.  That may also have prudent - those JHU folks are pretty smart - but it was a lose-lose PR situation.  In the end, not saying "we're worried about Yeshiva fans who may unknowingly transmit the virus," was probably better than saying it, but better doesn't make it right.
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