MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[npbaseball40]

I would have had no problem recognizing Mr Boyd's excellent performance with the weekly accolade.  Unfortunately, I've not found the SIDs to be too deeply analytical in their weekly voting.  This is not a knock on them because they are very busy people and likely don't have the time or bandwidth to evaluate the nuances of individual performances.

FWIW, I nominated Jordan with plenty of supporting info, including everything Greg said in his above post. I have no idea who officially "votes" for the players in the league office, but I can tell you it isn't us SIDs. To throw all SIDs under the bus with this kind of blanket statement is, putting it mildly, ill-informed and/or just plain ignorant.

I'd argue we care the most about awards like this, as we are always looking for something positive to post, especially in the current climate.

Didn't mean to offend and certainly wasn't throwing anybody under the bus nor making a blanket statement.  I was under the impression that it is the conference SID's that do the voting for the Player of the Week awards in contrast to the year end All Conference selections which are the coaches.  But your post makes it sound like there are nominations from the SIDs and then someone in the league office determines the recipient?  If that's true I wasn't aware of that extra step.

I think they pretty much get it right most of the time and one might say the selection of Adom this week wasn't wrong either.  My point was that if SIDs miss certain subtleties of individual performances during the week prior to nominating, for lack of time or bandwidth for a deeper dive beyond just stats, then that is perfectly understandable to me.

Due to both my own curiosity, and the general level of confusion which seems to exist on this question, I thought it would be nice if we could get a definitive answer.

As such, I contacted CCIW Executive Maureen Harty and asked who does the nominating for POW. I was initially advised that "The process varies from sport to sport. In all cases the coaches are involved in the nominations." My follow-up question was, in men's basketball, who ultimately picks the winner? The response was "The SIDs."
There you have it.

No, not "there you have it". I don't want to create a stink out of this, but that response from Mo is simply not true. Feel free to email any SID in the CCIW to verify what I'm saying.

[Titan Q]

Elmhurst 6-9 reserve F/C Ebrahim Jobe is no longer on the 2021-22 roster.

I have also heard there is some roster status question on 6-5 starting F/C Lavon Thomas.  Thomas has not played since the Wheaton game (missed the last 3).

[Titan Q]

My follow-up question was, in men's basketball, who ultimately picks the winner? The response was "The SIDs."
There you have it.

This is not accurate for basketball.  The CCIW league office picks the winner.

The SIDs do vote in some sports, like swimming, track, bowling, and cross country.

[USee]

I realize that CCIW Player of the Week is not that big of a deal, but, nevertheless, I was disappointed that the league decided to repeat Nyameye Adom as POW rather than awarding it to Jordan Boyd. Yes, a 30-point tally is always a significant achievement, and Adom's performance against Olivet (which I watched) was outstanding. But Boyd's 23 and 7 game was against a CCIW opponent, on that CCIW opponent's home floor, and it was the linchpin of a win achieved without two of his fellow NPU starters in uniform -- and Boyd was also the one who hit the game-winning shot with six seconds remaining.

Go ahead and accuse me of wearing royal-blue-and-gold-tinted glasses. I don't care. Jordan Boyd should've been named POW.

No comment 

[Next Man Up]

My follow-up question was, in men's basketball, who ultimately picks the winner? The response was "The SIDs." Y
There you have it.

This is not accurate for basketball.  The CCIW league office picks the winner.

The SIDs do vote in some sports, like swimming, track, bowling, and cross country.

I would have had no problem recognizing Mr Boyd's excellent performance with the weekly accolade.  Unfortunately, I've not found the SIDs to be too deeply analytical in their weekly voting.  This is not a knock on them because they are very busy people and likely don't have the time or bandwidth to evaluate the nuances of individual performances.

FWIW, I nominated Jordan with plenty of supporting info, including everything Greg said in his above post. I have no idea who officially "votes" for the players in the league office, but I can tell you it isn't us SIDs. To throw all SIDs under the bus with this kind of blanket statement is, putting it mildly, ill-informed and/or just plain ignorant.

I'd argue we care the most about awards like this, as we are always looking for something positive to post, especially in the current climate.

Didn't mean to offend and certainly wasn't throwing anybody under the bus nor making a blanket statement.  I was under the impression that it is the conference SID's that do the voting for the Player of the Week awards in contrast to the year end All Conference selections which are the coaches.  But your post makes it sound like there are nominations from the SIDs and then someone in the league office determines the recipient?  If that's true I wasn't aware of that extra step.

I think they pretty much get it right most of the time and one might say the selection of Adom this week wasn't wrong either.  My point was that if SIDs miss certain subtleties of individual performances during the week prior to nominating, for lack of time or bandwidth for a deeper dive beyond just stats, then that is perfectly understandable to me.

Due to both my own curiosity, and the general level of confusion which seems to exist on this question, I thought it would be nice if we could get a definitive answer.

As such, I contacted CCIW Executive Maureen Harty and asked who does the nominating for POW. I was initially advised that "The process varies from sport to sport. In all cases the coaches are involved in the nominations." My follow-up question was, in men's basketball, who ultimately picks the winner? The response was "The SIDs."
There you have it.

No, not "there you have it". I don't want to create a stink out of this, but that response from Mo is simply not true. Feel free to email any SID in the CCIW to verify what I'm saying.

The Executive Director of the CCIW runs the league. As such, I figured it was logical that she would be the most familiar with the procedures associated with various conference awards, and could clear up any confusion. That's why I went right to the top and contacted her directly with questions, and then reported her answers. I would think she would have the correct information on this. Do you really mean to say such is not the case here?

[npbaseball40]

My follow-up question was, in men's basketball, who ultimately picks the winner? The response was "The SIDs." Y
There you have it.

This is not accurate for basketball.  The CCIW league office picks the winner.

The SIDs do vote in some sports, like swimming, track, bowling, and cross country.

I would have had no problem recognizing Mr Boyd's excellent performance with the weekly accolade.  Unfortunately, I've not found the SIDs to be too deeply analytical in their weekly voting.  This is not a knock on them because they are very busy people and likely don't have the time or bandwidth to evaluate the nuances of individual performances.

FWIW, I nominated Jordan with plenty of supporting info, including everything Greg said in his above post. I have no idea who officially "votes" for the players in the league office, but I can tell you it isn't us SIDs. To throw all SIDs under the bus with this kind of blanket statement is, putting it mildly, ill-informed and/or just plain ignorant.

I'd argue we care the most about awards like this, as we are always looking for something positive to post, especially in the current climate.

Didn't mean to offend and certainly wasn't throwing anybody under the bus nor making a blanket statement.  I was under the impression that it is the conference SID's that do the voting for the Player of the Week awards in contrast to the year end All Conference selections which are the coaches.  But your post makes it sound like there are nominations from the SIDs and then someone in the league office determines the recipient?  If that's true I wasn't aware of that extra step.

I think they pretty much get it right most of the time and one might say the selection of Adom this week wasn't wrong either.  My point was that if SIDs miss certain subtleties of individual performances during the week prior to nominating, for lack of time or bandwidth for a deeper dive beyond just stats, then that is perfectly understandable to me.

Due to both my own curiosity, and the general level of confusion which seems to exist on this question, I thought it would be nice if we could get a definitive answer.

As such, I contacted CCIW Executive Maureen Harty and asked who does the nominating for POW. I was initially advised that "The process varies from sport to sport. In all cases the coaches are involved in the nominations." My follow-up question was, in men's basketball, who ultimately picks the winner? The response was "The SIDs."
There you have it.

No, not "there you have it". I don't want to create a stink out of this, but that response from Mo is simply not true. Feel free to email any SID in the CCIW to verify what I'm saying.

The Executive Director of the CCIW runs the league. As such, I figured it was logical that she would be the most familiar with the procedures associated with various conference awards, and could clear up any confusion. That's why I went right to the top and contacted her directly with questions, and then reported her answers. I would think she would have the correct information on this. Do you really mean to say such is not the case here?

Refer to my previous post and take the requested action, if this is truly a question meant without sarcasm.

[Gregory Sager]

NPU @ Dominican, which had been scheduled to tip off a half-hour from now, has been canceled.

That makes two games that the Vikings have had erased from their 2021-22 schedule due to Covid-19.

[Titan Q]

The Executive Director of the CCIW runs the league. As such, I figured it was logical that she would be the most familiar with the procedures associated with various conference awards, and could clear up any confusion. That's why I went right to the top and contacted her directly with questions, and then reported her answers. I would think she would have the correct information on this. Do you really mean to say such is not the case here?

Correct.  She gave you the wrong answer for basketball.  The SIDs do not pick the CCIW Player of the Week.

[Next Man Up]

My follow-up question was, in men's basketball, who ultimately picks the winner? The response was "The SIDs." Y
There you have it.

This is not accurate for basketball.  The CCIW league office picks the winner.

The SIDs do vote in some sports, like swimming, track, bowling, and cross country.

I would have had no problem recognizing Mr Boyd's excellent performance with the weekly accolade.  Unfortunately, I've not found the SIDs to be too deeply analytical in their weekly voting.  This is not a knock on them because they are very busy people and likely don't have the time or bandwidth to evaluate the nuances of individual performances.

FWIW, I nominated Jordan with plenty of supporting info, including everything Greg said in his above post. I have no idea who officially "votes" for the players in the league office, but I can tell you it isn't us SIDs. To throw all SIDs under the bus with this kind of blanket statement is, putting it mildly, ill-informed and/or just plain ignorant.

I'd argue we care the most about awards like this, as we are always looking for something positive to post, especially in the current climate.

Didn't mean to offend and certainly wasn't throwing anybody under the bus nor making a blanket statement.  I was under the impression that it is the conference SID's that do the voting for the Player of the Week awards in contrast to the year end All Conference selections which are the coaches.  But your post makes it sound like there are nominations from the SIDs and then someone in the league office determines the recipient?  If that's true I wasn't aware of that extra step.

I think they pretty much get it right most of the time and one might say the selection of Adom this week wasn't wrong either.  My point was that if SIDs miss certain subtleties of individual performances during the week prior to nominating, for lack of time or bandwidth for a deeper dive beyond just stats, then that is perfectly understandable to me.

Due to both my own curiosity, and the general level of confusion which seems to exist on this question, I thought it would be nice if we could get a definitive answer.

As such, I contacted CCIW Executive Maureen Harty and asked who does the nominating for POW. I was initially advised that "The process varies from sport to sport. In all cases the coaches are involved in the nominations." My follow-up question was, in men's basketball, who ultimately picks the winner? The response was "The SIDs."
There you have it.

No, not "there you have it". I don't want to create a stink out of this, but that response from Mo is simply not true. Feel free to email any SID in the CCIW to verify what I'm saying.

The Executive Director of the CCIW runs the league. As such, I figured it was logical that she would be the most familiar with the procedures associated with various conference awards, and could clear up any confusion. That's why I went right to the top and contacted her directly with questions, and then reported her answers. I would think she would have the correct information on this. Do you really mean to say such is not the case here?

Refer to my previous post and take the requested action, if this is truly a question meant without sarcasm.

I assure you there was no more sarcasm in my question than I assume there was in your No, not "there you have it" comment. 
And, I'll not be Ypsied into taking any further action as TQ has very sufficiently confirmed the true situation.

[lmitzel]

Meanwhile, NCC won its first of two straight in Michigan, knocking off Kalamazoo 84-73. Matt Helwig led the way with a 30-9, Ethan Helwig scored 20, and Blaise Meredith chipped in 18 (plus a technical according to the box score).

Ty Horkey paced the Hornets with 27, while Lukas Broadsword put up 15 and 9.

The Cardinals play at Olivet tomorrow afternoon.

[Titan Q]

Meanwhile, NCC won its first of two straight in Michigan, knocking off Kalamazoo 84-73. Matt Helwig led the way with a 30-9, Ethan Helwig scored 20, and Blaise Meredith chipped in 18 (plus a technical according to the box score).

Ty Horkey paced the Hornets with 27, while Lukas Broadsword put up 15 and 9.

The Cardinals play at Olivet tomorrow afternoon.

Olivet beat Hanover today and is a really talented team.   I think I'd favor the Comets in that one.

[Gregory Sager]

My follow-up question was, in men's basketball, who ultimately picks the winner? The response was "The SIDs." Y
There you have it.

This is not accurate for basketball.  The CCIW league office picks the winner.

The SIDs do vote in some sports, like swimming, track, bowling, and cross country.

I would have had no problem recognizing Mr Boyd's excellent performance with the weekly accolade.  Unfortunately, I've not found the SIDs to be too deeply analytical in their weekly voting.  This is not a knock on them because they are very busy people and likely don't have the time or bandwidth to evaluate the nuances of individual performances.

FWIW, I nominated Jordan with plenty of supporting info, including everything Greg said in his above post. I have no idea who officially "votes" for the players in the league office, but I can tell you it isn't us SIDs. To throw all SIDs under the bus with this kind of blanket statement is, putting it mildly, ill-informed and/or just plain ignorant.

I'd argue we care the most about awards like this, as we are always looking for something positive to post, especially in the current climate.

Didn't mean to offend and certainly wasn't throwing anybody under the bus nor making a blanket statement.  I was under the impression that it is the conference SID's that do the voting for the Player of the Week awards in contrast to the year end All Conference selections which are the coaches.  But your post makes it sound like there are nominations from the SIDs and then someone in the league office determines the recipient?  If that's true I wasn't aware of that extra step.

I think they pretty much get it right most of the time and one might say the selection of Adom this week wasn't wrong either.  My point was that if SIDs miss certain subtleties of individual performances during the week prior to nominating, for lack of time or bandwidth for a deeper dive beyond just stats, then that is perfectly understandable to me.

Due to both my own curiosity, and the general level of confusion which seems to exist on this question, I thought it would be nice if we could get a definitive answer.

As such, I contacted CCIW Executive Maureen Harty and asked who does the nominating for POW. I was initially advised that "The process varies from sport to sport. In all cases the coaches are involved in the nominations." My follow-up question was, in men's basketball, who ultimately picks the winner? The response was "The SIDs."
There you have it.

No, not "there you have it". I don't want to create a stink out of this, but that response from Mo is simply not true. Feel free to email any SID in the CCIW to verify what I'm saying.

The Executive Director of the CCIW runs the league. As such, I figured it was logical that she would be the most familiar with the procedures associated with various conference awards, and could clear up any confusion. That's why I went right to the top and contacted her directly with questions, and then reported her answers. I would think she would have the correct information on this. Do you really mean to say such is not the case here?

Refer to my previous post and take the requested action, if this is truly a question meant without sarcasm.

I assure you there was no more sarcasm in my question than I assume there was in your No, not "there you have it" comment. 
And, I'll not be Ypsied into taking any further action as TQ has very sufficiently confirmed the true situation.

For crying out loud, Mark, there is absolutely no need to belabor this point.

Tyler is a CCIW SID. He has told you twice now that CCIW SIDs do not pick the men's basketball POW. That's it, period, finito, end of story.

You don't need Bob to confirm it. He's not a CCIW SID. You don't need Mo to give you a "definitive answer." She's not a CCIW SID, either.

If you're so convinced that Tyler is lying about his job, why don't you take out your phone and call Clark Teuscher and ask him if he votes for men's basketball POW?

Sheesh.

[npbaseball40]

My follow-up question was, in men's basketball, who ultimately picks the winner? The response was "The SIDs." Y
There you have it.

This is not accurate for basketball.  The CCIW league office picks the winner.

The SIDs do vote in some sports, like swimming, track, bowling, and cross country.

I would have had no problem recognizing Mr Boyd's excellent performance with the weekly accolade.  Unfortunately, I've not found the SIDs to be too deeply analytical in their weekly voting.  This is not a knock on them because they are very busy people and likely don't have the time or bandwidth to evaluate the nuances of individual performances.

FWIW, I nominated Jordan with plenty of supporting info, including everything Greg said in his above post. I have no idea who officially "votes" for the players in the league office, but I can tell you it isn't us SIDs. To throw all SIDs under the bus with this kind of blanket statement is, putting it mildly, ill-informed and/or just plain ignorant.

I'd argue we care the most about awards like this, as we are always looking for something positive to post, especially in the current climate.

Didn't mean to offend and certainly wasn't throwing anybody under the bus nor making a blanket statement.  I was under the impression that it is the conference SID's that do the voting for the Player of the Week awards in contrast to the year end All Conference selections which are the coaches.  But your post makes it sound like there are nominations from the SIDs and then someone in the league office determines the recipient?  If that's true I wasn't aware of that extra step.

I think they pretty much get it right most of the time and one might say the selection of Adom this week wasn't wrong either.  My point was that if SIDs miss certain subtleties of individual performances during the week prior to nominating, for lack of time or bandwidth for a deeper dive beyond just stats, then that is perfectly understandable to me.

Due to both my own curiosity, and the general level of confusion which seems to exist on this question, I thought it would be nice if we could get a definitive answer.

As such, I contacted CCIW Executive Maureen Harty and asked who does the nominating for POW. I was initially advised that "The process varies from sport to sport. In all cases the coaches are involved in the nominations." My follow-up question was, in men's basketball, who ultimately picks the winner? The response was "The SIDs."
There you have it.

No, not "there you have it". I don't want to create a stink out of this, but that response from Mo is simply not true. Feel free to email any SID in the CCIW to verify what I'm saying.

The Executive Director of the CCIW runs the league. As such, I figured it was logical that she would be the most familiar with the procedures associated with various conference awards, and could clear up any confusion. That's why I went right to the top and contacted her directly with questions, and then reported her answers. I would think she would have the correct information on this. Do you really mean to say such is not the case here?

Refer to my previous post and take the requested action, if this is truly a question meant without sarcasm.

I assure you there was no more sarcasm in my question than I assume there was in your No, not "there you have it" comment. 
And, I'll not be Ypsied into taking any further action as TQ has very sufficiently confirmed the true situation.

For crying out loud, Mark, there is absolutely no need to belabor this point.

Tyler is a CCIW SID. He has told you twice now that CCIW SIDs do not pick the men's basketball POW. That's it, period, finito, end of story.

You don't need Bob to confirm it. He's not a CCIW SID. You don't need Mo to give you a "definitive answer." She's not a CCIW SID, either.

If you're so convinced that Tyler is lying about his job, why don't you take out your phone and call Clark Teuscher and ask him if he votes for men's basketball POW?

Sheesh.

Thanks Greg (and Bob). I'll consider this matter addressed now... silly of me to stoop after my original clarification.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays everyone. Appreciate all of you that help cover Division III basketball and Division III sports in general!

[markerickson]

I once had to stay in Marshall MI during the week long ago as I worked a case at Olivet College, which is located in a town that has no hotel or motel.  So glad to leave.  I cannot believe that Olivet continues to be financially solvent after all these years.  To say the community is a town and gown is quite a stretch.  I thought the same of Anderson U, but at least it can draw students from its Church of God denomination.  The town of Anderson got hit very hard when, according to Ross Perot, that "giant sucking sound" sent auto industry jobs to Mexico.

[Titan Q]

Holy Helwigs. 63.

Has to be the most single game points ever scored by brothers in CCIW history? Easily?