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Next Man Up

Quote from: 79jaybird on March 30, 2022, 03:50:29 PM
I believe that is the younger brother of Bryce who was a solid football player for the Jays.

This guy played football too, but it appears he plans to limit himself to just playing basketball at the next level.
I've heard he thinks that with the overall level of talent that regularly takes to the gridiron for the Jays, football would be a waste of time as he feels it would be close to impossible to earn a roster spot.  ;)
So young hero, ask yourself............................Do you want to go to college, get a good education, and play (basketball)(football), or do you want to go to college, get a good education, and watch (basketball)(football)? 🤔 😏

Don't surround yourself with yourself. 🧍🏼‍♂️(Yes)

itsnotmeitsyou

Interesting developments happening, or not happening, in the league Re: coaching positions. Will know more within the next 7-10 days.

robertgoulet

Another big NCC coaching change as mens track and cross country coach Frank Gramarosso is retiring. Will be their first coaching search for those positions in 60 years!
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Next Man Up

Seems NPU is conducting on-campus finalist interviews this week. Quick work by the eastern Vikings.
So young hero, ask yourself............................Do you want to go to college, get a good education, and play (basketball)(football), or do you want to go to college, get a good education, and watch (basketball)(football)? 🤔 😏

Don't surround yourself with yourself. 🧍🏼‍♂️(Yes)

Gregory Sager

They went into this with a timetable in mind. This has not been a process that has been made up on the fly.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

itsnotmeitsyou

Quote from: Next Man Up on April 04, 2022, 10:49:04 PM
Seems NPU is conducting on-campus finalist interviews this week. Quick work by the eastern Vikings.
Slyder "resigned" on March 2nd.  I'm not sure I would call taking 5 weeks to get finalists on campus "quick work" (especially since this opening was an expected departure). Although when compared to the timetable of other CCIW schools, they would term it hypersonic (a literary homage paid to the DoD on the acknowledgment of a recent missile test)!

Next Man Up

1. Greg,
I was in no way implying the NPU hiring process was anything made up "on the fly." I'm sorry if it came off that way.
My post was actually intended as a compliment.

2. However long anyone thinks the NPU selection process is taking, it seems to be moving toward conclusion faster than another school's process involving filling the same respective position. And this is rather confusing because the fact is a substantial number of people feel that school #2 has a well qualified individual that's already on staff, and should have already been named to fill the vacancy, much like was done when the head football position came open recently.
So young hero, ask yourself............................Do you want to go to college, get a good education, and play (basketball)(football), or do you want to go to college, get a good education, and watch (basketball)(football)? 🤔 😏

Don't surround yourself with yourself. 🧍🏼‍♂️(Yes)

crusader_nation

Wheaton Recruits:

Michael Dienes, Rancho Solano Prep, Scottsdale, AZ, 6' 7" 180lbs.

Kyle Neibch, Ft. Mill High School, Fort Mill, SC, 6' 2" 170lbs.

Noah Reimer, Lincoln Christian High School, Tulsa, OK, 6' 5" 205lbs.

CardinalAlum

Quote from: Next Man Up on April 05, 2022, 08:22:56 PM
1. Greg,
I was in no way implying the NPU hiring process was anything made up "on the fly." I'm sorry if it came off that way.
My post was actually intended as a compliment.

2. However long anyone thinks the NPU selection process is taking, it seems to be moving toward conclusion faster than another school's process involving filling the same respective position. And this is rather confusing because the fact is a substantial number of people feel that school #2 has a well qualified individual that's already on staff, and should have already been named to fill the vacancy, much like was done when the head football position came open recently.

I don't believe they're as similar as you're implying when you factor in the difference in the years of experience in the two.
D3 National Champions 2019, 2022, 2024

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Next Man Up on April 05, 2022, 08:22:56 PM
1. Greg,
I was in no way implying the NPU hiring process was anything made up "on the fly." I'm sorry if it came off that way.
My post was actually intended as a compliment.

No worries. I understood it as a compliment.

All I can say is that I've been encouraged by what I've heard, which is that John Born got a huge response from dozens of what appear to be very capable coaches. It's made the winnowing process a little more laborious than he expected and perhaps more time-consuming on his part, but I'd rather that he had to burn the midnight oil a little longer because of an overabundance of quality applicants than because of a scarcity of them (the latter case of which burned North Park and completely wrecked the men's basketball program back in 1994).

This doesn't mean that whomever John hires is automatically going to be the Moses who leads the Israelites Vikings back to the Promised Land. Heck, we won't even know for two or three years if the new coach can recruit and retain a competitive CCIW roster. But John's as astute a judge of what kind of coach it takes to build a program from a doormat to a national championship contender as there is in this entire league, because he himself was that kind of coach; he inherited a North Park soccer team that had stumbled to a 1-15-1 (0-6) record the previous season and turned them into first a regional and then a national powerhouse that made it to the D3 national championship game in 2017. And he's been around NPU long enough to have as good an understanding as anybody of who's a good fit for the school and who isn't.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Next Man Up

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Quote from: CardinalAlum on April 06, 2022, 11:08:45 AM
Quote from: Next Man Up on April 05, 2022, 08:22:56 PM
1. Greg,
I was in no way implying the NPU hiring process was anything made up "on the fly." I'm sorry if it came off that way.
My post was actually intended as a compliment.

2. However long anyone thinks the NPU selection process is taking, it seems to be moving toward conclusion faster than another school's process involving filling the same respective position. And this is rather confusing because the fact is a substantial number of people feel that school #2 has a well qualified individual that's already on staff, and should have already been named to fill the vacancy, much like was done when the head football position came open recently.

I don't believe they're as similar as you're implying when you factor in the difference in the years of experience in the two.

Carlos,
Anyone associated with NCC athletics in general and football specifically is aware of Brad's multiple years of experience and excellence as a player and assistant coach prior to being named to the head position. And while Vince can't match the number of years Brad has been around, the fact is he has 12 years of experience at NCC as a student-athlete, and graduate assistant, assistant and, for the last four years, Head Assistant Coach. And, for all of those 12 years, he has learned how to both play and coach under one of the most successful head coaches in the entire history of Division 3 basketball, as only 29 coaches in history have more wins than Todd Raridon compiled. Vince also has the support of the team which has already met with Jim Miller en masse to voice their support.

Many basketball and other alums have likewise written and/or called both Athletic and College Administration officials on Vince's behalf.

Additionally, and possibly the strongest point in Vince's favor is this fact. No matter what Todd Raridon's relationship with NCC had become prior/since his resignation, the fact remains the he is the greatest coach in NCC basketball history. And he has said that Vince is ready, and should get the job. Todd would know better than anyone else who should get that job, especially when some of the other people who will be applying are guys that have coached for him, but that he did not select as his choice for the Head coaching position.

The fact that players, parents, alumni, and local supporters have all expressed their support is a fact that should not be denied. Lastly, Vince continues to demonstrate his loyalty to NCC as he continues to recruit on a daily basis under the most difficult of conditions.
So young hero, ask yourself............................Do you want to go to college, get a good education, and play (basketball)(football), or do you want to go to college, get a good education, and watch (basketball)(football)? 🤔 😏

Don't surround yourself with yourself. 🧍🏼‍♂️(Yes)

Borganization

Quote from: crusader_nation on April 06, 2022, 12:10:43 AM
Wheaton Recruits:

Michael Dienes, Rancho Solano Prep, Scottsdale, AZ, 6' 7" 180lbs.

Kyle Neibch, Ft. Mill High School, Fort Mill, SC, 6' 2" 170lbs.

Noah Reimer, Lincoln Christian High School, Tulsa, OK, 6' 5" 205lbs.


Neibch transferred from Batavia after his sophomore year.

itsnotmeitsyou

Quote from: Next Man Up on April 06, 2022, 02:02:41 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on April 06, 2022, 11:08:45 AM
Quote from: Next Man Up on April 05, 2022, 08:22:56 PM
1. Greg,
I was in no way implying the NPU hiring process was anything made up "on the fly." I'm sorry if it came off that way.
My post was actually intended as a compliment.

2. However long anyone thinks the NPU selection process is taking, it seems to be moving toward conclusion faster than another school's process involving filling the same respective position. And this is rather confusing because the fact is a substantial number of people feel that school #2 has a well qualified individual that's already on staff, and should have already been named to fill the vacancy, much like was done when the head football position came open recently.

I don't believe they're as similar as you're implying when you factor in the difference in the years of experience in the two.

Carlos,
Anyone associated with NCC athletics in general and football specifically is aware of Brad's multiple years of experience and excellence as a player and assistant coach prior to being named to the head position. And while Vince can't match the number of years Brad has been around, the fact is he has 12 years of experience at NCC as a student-athlete, and graduate assistant, assistant and, for the last four years, Head Assistant Coach. And, for all of those 12 years, he has learned how to both play and coach under one of the most successful head coaches in the entire history of Division 3 basketball, as only 29 coaches in history have more wins than Todd Raridon compiled. Vince also has the support of the team which has already met with Jim Miller en masse to voice their support.

Many basketball and other alums have likewise written and/or called both Athletic and College Administration officials on Vince's behalf.

Additionally, and possibly the strongest point in Vince's favor is this fact. No matter what Todd Raridon's relationship with NCC had become prior/since his resignation, the fact remains the he is the greatest coach in NCC basketball history. And he has said that Vince is ready, and should get the job. Todd would know better than anyone else who should get that job, especially when some of the other people who will be applying are guys that have coached for him, but that he did not select as his choice for the Head coaching position.

The fact that players, parents, alumni, and local supporters have all expressed their support is a fact that should not be denied. Lastly, Vince continues to demonstrate his loyalty to NCC as he continues to recruit on a daily basis under the most difficult of conditions.

It is the rare instance, and there are a couple of exceptions, where a 1st time head coach has any meaningful success in CCIW basketball (which is also true, albeit to a lesser extent, on the womens' side).  Generally speaking, this is NOT a league for "student teachers". Certainly league/program familiarity can mitigate a lack of head coaching experience The fact that A candidate has already been on staff for a number of years and has not already been offered the job should tell you all you need to know about his desirability. assistants that are elevated and become successful head coaches are a "no doubters" that even Ray Charles can "see" during their time on staff.

north central

I dont think thats true in this instance. The assistant at NCC is clearly experienced and ready. I think people thought the coaches at Carthage and Augie were ready but look where those teams finished this year.

Next Man Up

Quote from: itsnotmeitsyou on April 06, 2022, 06:50:53 PM
Quote from: Next Man Up on April 06, 2022, 02:02:41 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on April 06, 2022, 11:08:45 AM
Quote from: Next Man Up on April 05, 2022, 08:22:56 PM
1. Greg,
I was in no way implying the NPU hiring process was anything made up "on the fly." I'm sorry if it came off that way.
My post was actually intended as a compliment.

2. However long anyone thinks the NPU selection process is taking, it seems to be moving toward conclusion faster than another school's process involving filling the same respective position. And this is rather confusing because the fact is a substantial number of people feel that school #2 has a well qualified individual that's already on staff, and should have already been named to fill the vacancy, much like was done when the head football position came open recently.

I don't believe they're as similar as you're implying when you factor in the difference in the years of experience in the two.

Carlos,
Anyone associated with NCC athletics in general and football specifically is aware of Brad's multiple years of experience and excellence as a player and assistant coach prior to being named to the head position. And while Vince can't match the number of years Brad has been around, the fact is he has 12 years of experience at NCC as a student-athlete, and graduate assistant, assistant and, for the last four years, Head Assistant Coach. And, for all of those 12 years, he has learned how to both play and coach under one of the most successful head coaches in the entire history of Division 3 basketball, as only 29 coaches in history have more wins than Todd Raridon compiled. Vince also has the support of the team which has already met with Jim Miller en masse to voice their support.

Many basketball and other alums have likewise written and/or called both Athletic and College Administration officials on Vince's behalf.

Additionally, and possibly the strongest point in Vince's favor is this fact. No matter what Todd Raridon's relationship with NCC had become prior/since his resignation, the fact remains the he is the greatest coach in NCC basketball history. And he has said that Vince is ready, and should get the job. Todd would know better than anyone else who should get that job, especially when some of the other people who will be applying are guys that have coached for him, but that he did not select as his choice for the Head coaching position.

The fact that players, parents, alumni, and local supporters have all expressed their support is a fact that should not be denied. Lastly, Vince continues to demonstrate his loyalty to NCC as he continues to recruit on a daily basis under the most difficult of conditions.

It is the rare instance, and there are a couple of exceptions, where a 1st time head coach has any meaningful success in CCIW basketball (which is also true, albeit to a lesser extent, on the womens' side).  Generally speaking, this is NOT a league for "student teachers". Certainly league/program familiarity can mitigate a lack of head coaching experience The fact that A candidate has already been on staff for a number of years and has not already been offered the job should tell you all you need to know about his desirability. assistants that are elevated and become successful head coaches are a "no doubters" that even Ray Charles can "see" during their time on staff.

Aaaaaaaaaaah. I'm dying over here!
Some would disagree, but I think you have made some thoughtful posts, itsnotmeitsyou. 
However, your above statement which I bolded makes the same degree of sense as saying Vladimir Putin is the world's greatest humanitarian and lover of peace.
Perhaps you've forgotten that you, yourself recently posted Don't expect the coaching vacancy in Naperville to be filled anytime soon. The hiring process at that institution moves at the speed of the global techtonic plates.  ;)
So young hero, ask yourself............................Do you want to go to college, get a good education, and play (basketball)(football), or do you want to go to college, get a good education, and watch (basketball)(football)? 🤔 😏

Don't surround yourself with yourself. 🧍🏼‍♂️(Yes)