MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Pat Coleman]

The size of the tournament changed a bit in the interim as well, right?

[lmitzel]

The size of the tournament changed a bit in the interim as well, right?

I want to say when I was still in undergrad (and maybe for a stretch afterwards) it was 62, wasn't it? I don't remember what the Pool A/B/C ratio was at the time though.

[Pat Coleman]

The 2007 tournament had 59 teams. We didn't get to 64 in MBB until 2017.

[Gregory Sager]

The size of the tournament changed a bit in the interim as well, right?

Yes, but I didn't want to be presumptuous and state that Elmhurst would've made it in if there had been five more Pool C berths available. I just don't remember the national 2007 scenario well enough to make that claim in 2024. And the research required to investigate and then draw that conclusion was daunting; it ate up the better part of an afternoon for me just to look up and re-read the CCIW posts from the 2006-07 season.

[Pat Coleman]

The size of the tournament changed a bit in the interim as well, right?

Yes, but I didn't want to be presumptuous and state that Elmhurst would've made it in if there had been five more Pool C berths available. I just don't remember the national 2007 scenario well enough to make that claim in 2024. And the research required to investigate and then draw that conclusion was daunting; it ate up the better part of an afternoon for me just to look up and re-read the CCIW posts from the 2006-07 season.

Fair enough! I also don't have an easy way to put my hands on 2007 bracketology.

[sac]

Pretty sure 2007 was a QOWI year.


Found this tucked deep in the Pool C thread

Out of curiosity, who do you think were "left on the table" when LaCrosse got in last? Here's mine:

NE: Trinity
E: NYU
A: New Jersey
MA: Hopkins
S: HPU
GL: Albion?
M: WashU

Any thoughts?

At the very least Elmhurst was behind WashU maybe, and a later brief discussion on a "D3 NIT" shows Elmhurst as the next MW Region team behind WashU. 

So maybe they're on the board in 2007 with more Pool C's, only 18 that year.

[Gregory Sager]

Yes, I was constantly bumping into the term "QOWI" during my 2006-07 re-read on Monday.

It felt a little like trying to decipher Middle English when I read The Canterbury Tales in college.

[USee]

Yes, I was constantly bumping into the term "QOWI" during my 2006-07 re-read on Monday.

It felt a little like trying to decipher Middle English when I read The Canterbury Tales in college.

Is Middle English what they speak in Middle Earth? You read the Canterbury Tales at NPU? Isn't that about a golf trip to England?

[markerickson]

North Park did not replicate last year's success due primarily to woeful trey shooting. Secondarily, their half-court defensive effectiveness also declined. 

[Gregory Sager]

Yes, I was constantly bumping into the term "QOWI" during my 2006-07 re-read on Monday.

It felt a little like trying to decipher Middle English when I read The Canterbury Tales in college.

Is Middle English what they speak in Middle Earth? You read the Canterbury Tales at NPU? Isn't that about a golf trip to England?

You're thinking of The Cadbury Tales, where the winner of the tournament gets a box of chocolates at the 18th hole.

[GoPerry]

Yes, I was constantly bumping into the term "QOWI" during my 2006-07 re-read on Monday.

It felt a little like trying to decipher Middle English when I read The Canterbury Tales in college.

Is Middle English what they speak in Middle Earth? You read the Canterbury Tales at NPU? Isn't that about a golf trip to England?

You're thinking of The Cadbury Tales, where the winner of the tournament gets a box of chocolates at the 18th hole.

Maybe next season, call an entire game using iambic pentameter ...?

[Gregory Sager]

Yes, I was constantly bumping into the term "QOWI" during my 2006-07 re-read on Monday.

It felt a little like trying to decipher Middle English when I read The Canterbury Tales in college.

Is Middle English what they speak in Middle Earth? You read the Canterbury Tales at NPU? Isn't that about a golf trip to England?

You're thinking of The Cadbury Tales, where the winner of the tournament gets a box of chocolates at the 18th hole.

Maybe next season, call an entire game using iambic pentameter ...?

I would definitely need to get paid more for that.

[Gregory Sager]

The CCIW bowed out with a one-and-done tonight, as Elmhurst fell to Calvin, 93-78, at John Carroll's gym in suburban Cleveland. Calvin worked its inside-outside game to perfection, taking advantage of EU's double-teaming of 6'10" Jalen Overway (the MIAA Player of the Year who averages 19 and 10) to kick out to, and then knock down, open looks. Calvin shot 58% from the field and 57% from downtown, while defending hard enough to hold the 'jays to only 37% from the field and 36% from beyond the arc.

John Ittounas ended his fantastic two-year career as a Bluejay with a 21-point night and a flawless 6:0 floor game, while Quinn Pemberton (13 pts) and Ocean Johnson (11 pts) likewise both made their last college basketball game a double-digit scoring performance. The other two EU starters, Jonathan Zapinski and Tagen Pearson, had fairly rough and undistinguished final performances.

The 'jays didn't go down without a fight, but Calvin is clearly the better team.

John Baines has a lot of very good players that he'll have to replace in the off-season.

[Gregory Sager]

This is only the sixth time since the first D3 tourney back in 1975 that the CCIW departs from the field without picking up a win (not counting the old regional consolation games played back in the '70s and '80s). The last time the CCIW was a one-and-done was back in 2007 when Augie was beaten in the first round by, ironically, Carroll. Of course, Carroll was a member of the MWC back then.

This also finalizes the CCIW's non-conference record at 40-42 for the season. It's the first time since 1973-74 that the CCIW has finished underwater.

It's been a forgettable season for this league in terms of men's basketball.

[voxelmhurst]

An end to an era for Elmhurst, as Friday night's game will be the last Elmhurst game featuring starting members of the '22 national runners-up squad. Hopefully, another 20+ season, CCIW tournament title, and national tournament appearance will help Baines and company on the recruiting trail. Elmhurst faces their biggest rebuilding challenge in over a decade starting this offseason.