MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Jim Matson]

Wheaton women defeated Illinois Wesleyan 54-49 to grab the conference AQ.  The women also won the CCIW title.

[fcnews]

A question for the people who will know the answer. Who are some of the possible 1st rd o[[onents for thr SLIAC Representitive?

[Gregory Sager]

A question for the people who will know the answer. Who are some of the possible 1st rd o[[onents for thr SLIAC Representitive?

Augustana
UWSP (although I think the Pointers will draw a first-round bye and play a West Coast team)
Wash U
Aurora
DePauw

If Elmhurst wins in Rock Island this evening, I don't think the 'jays will be seeded high enough to draw the SLIAC rep, since the SLIAC rep will undoubtedly be the lowest seed in the section. Ditto for Loras, the second WIAC team (if there is one), the HCAC rep, the MWC rep, etc.

[Greek Tragedy]

Men's Basketball
The first record listed is the overall record, followed by record in regional games, through Sunday, Feb. 18, 2007. These are the last rankings we'll see before they select teams. Teams in BOLD are Pool A candidates, unless already noted.

There may be some mistakes, due to updated games and my inability to remember every Pool B team in contention! lol

Feel free to "quote" and update it.

I'm headed to Point for the WIAC Final

Atlantic Region
1. Stevens 20-5 20-5 (LOST in Skyline Semis)
2. Ramapo 18-7 17-5 (won NJAC AQ)
3. Manhattanville 20-5 19-5 (plays SUNY-Old Westbury in Skyline Final)
4. New Jersey City 17-8 16-7 (LOST to Ramapo in NJAC Final)
5. Rowan 20-5 15-5  (LOST to Ramapo in NJAC Semis)

East Region
1. Brockport State 21-4 20-4 (plays Plattsburgh State in SUNYAC Final)
2. St. John Fisher 20-5 19-5 (plays Utica in Empire 8 Final)
3. St. Lawrence 20-5 19-5 (plays Hamilton in Liberty League Final)
4. New York U. 19-5 18-5 (plays Brandeis-can't win UAA)
5 Rochester 17-7 17-6 (plays Carnegie Mellon-can't win UAA)

Great Lakes Region
1. Lake Erie 23-2 19- (Won AMCC AQ)
2. Wooster 22-3 17-2 (plays Ohio Wesleyan in NCAC Final)
3. John Carroll 17-8 16-6 (plays Capital in OAC Final)
4. Hope 21-3 14-3 (plays Calvin in MIAA Final)
5. Ohio Northern 19-6 14-6 (LOST to Otterbein in OAC Quarters)
6. Wittenberg 21-4 16-4 (LOST to Ohio Wesleyan in NCAC Semis)

Middle Atlantic Region
1. Johns Hopkins 21-4 20-3 (plays Gettysburg in Centennial Semis)
2. Messiah 19-5 16-3 (LOST to Widener in MAC-Commonwealth Semis)
3. Alvernia 21-4 20-2 (Won PnAC AQ)
4. Lincoln (Pa.) 16-7 11-3-IND:  POOL B
5. Catholic 19-5 18-5 (plays Hood in CAC Final)
6. Hood 19-6 18-5 (plays Catholic in CAC Final)
7. King's (Pa.) 17-8 17-7 (plays DeSales in MAC-Freedom Final)
8. Scranton 19-6 17-6 (LOST to DeSales in MAC-Freedom Semis)

Midwest Region
1. Chicago 20-4 19-4 (plays Washington U.-winner wins UAA AQ?)
2. Augustana 20-5 20-4 (plays Elmhurst in CCIW Final)
3. Washington U. 19-4 17-4 (plays Chicago in UAA)
4. Aurora 23-2 22-2 (plays Edgewood in NathCon Final:  POOL B
5. Elmhurst 19-5 15-5 (plays Augustana in CCIW Final)
6. Carthage 16-8 13-7 ([Reg. season complete, did not make CCIW tourney)
7. Grinnell 17-6 16-6 (LOST to Lake Forest in MWC Semis)
8. Wheaton (Ill.) 16-8 12-7 (LOST to Elmhurst in CCIW Semis)

Northeast Region
1. Amherst 24-1 23-1 (plays in NESCAC Final)
2. Salem State 22-2 22-2 (Won MASCAC AQ)
3. Trinity (Conn.) 21-3 17-3 (plays Williams in NESCAC Semis)
4. WPI 21-2 19-2 (plays Coast Guard in NEWMAC Final)
5. Rhode Island 21-3 21-3 (plays Keene State in LEC Final)
6. Keene State 21-4 18-4 (plays Rhode Island in LEC Final)
7. Brandeis 18-6 18-6 (plays NYU-can't win UAA)
8. Bates 18-7 17-7 (LOST to Amherst in NESCAC Quarters)
9. Husson 20-5 20-3 (LOST to Elms in NAC Final)
10. Western New England 18-7 18-7 (LOST to Emmanuel in GNAC Semis)

South Region
1. Mississippi College 22-2 20-1 (plays McMurry in ASC Semis)
2. Va. Wesleyan 22-3 21-3 (LOST to Hampden-Sydney in ODAC Semis)
3. Guilford 21-3 20-3 (LOST to Bridgewater (Va) in ODAC Quarters)
4. DePauw 21-4 18-3 (plays Trinity (TX) in SCAC Semis)
5. Mary Hardin-Baylor 21-4 21-4 (LOST to Hardin-Simmons in ASC Semis)
6. Maryville (Tenn.) 19-6 19-3 (playing LaGrange in GSAC Final)-POOL B
7. Centre 20-4 14-4 (plays Millsaps in SCAC Semis)
8. McMurry 19-6 18-4 (plays Mississippi College in ASC Semis)

West Region
1. UW-Stevens Point 22-2 21-1 (plays La Crosse in WIAC Final)
2. St. Thomas 22-3 22-3 (plays St. John's in MIAC Final)
3. St. John's 19-6 19-3 (plays St. Thomas in MIAC Final)
4. UW-Oshkosh 20-5 17-5 (LOST to La Crosse in WIAC Semis)
5. Occidental 17-5 12-3 (Won SCIAC AQ)
6. Whitworth 22-3 19-3 (plays Lewis and Clark in NWC Final)
7. Loras 19-6 17-4 (plays Buena Vista in IIAC Final)
8. UW-La Crosse 17-7 15-6 (plays Stevens Point in WIAC Final)

[TheHerr]

Weather in rock island right now is just awful. I am staying at a hotel that is just 3 miles away from Carver Arena and it is almost looking impossible to get there. I have never seen so much ice in my life, so if you don't have to travel I would suggest listening to the game on Elmhurst College radio, unfortunately I am the chauffer to the arena for the two broadcasters of EC radio so I don't have a choice.

[Late nite]

Hope the officials are somewhat  local or have left early

Weather in rock island right now is just awful. I am staying at a hotel that is just 3 miles away from Carver Arena and it is almost looking impossible to get there. I have never seen so much ice in my life, so if you don't have to travel I would suggest listening to the game on Elmhurst College radio, unfortunately I am the chauffer to the arena for the two broadcasters of EC radio so I don't have a choice.

[cciw watcher]

Carroll/Lake Forest will be played tommorow!   

[Gregory Sager]

There are 18 Pool C berths. I'm counting twelve that are already spoken for:

Messiah
Brandeis
Chicago
Keene State
Catholic/Hood loser
St. John's/St. Thomas loser
Trinity CT
Mary Hardin-Baylor
Virginia Wesleyan
Brockport State
Rochester
Husson

Stevens Tech, UW-LaCrosse, NYU, and Guilford have better numbers than does Elmhurst, as does UW-Oshkosh -- although Elmhurst's win over UWO could negate the Titans' advantage. Loras and McMurry should grade out ahead of the 'jays as well, although Elmhurst's common-opponent advantage over Loras (NPU) could come into play if a Loras loss to Buena Vista in the IIAC final drops the Duhawks significantly. And there's a whole slew of teams that will finish ahead of Elmhurst in the Pool C sweepstakes if they lose this evening or tomorrow afternoon: WPI, Wooster, Mississippi College, John Carroll, Hope, Centre, the Whitworth/L&C loser, UWSP, Amherst, and Manhattanville.

That bubble on which the 'jays sit is pretty close to bursting. They'd better win tonight and make it all academic.

[Mr. Ypsi]

In terms of teams ahead of Elmhurst who would beat them out if they lost, don't overlook Amherst (who will host Williams rather than the expected Trinity for the title).  While it is hard to imagine Williams pulling the upset, this is the sort of rivalry game (not quite Hope/Calvin or Wabash/DePauw, but pretty close) where strange things can happen.

[Gregory Sager]

Good point, Chuck.

[usee]

I am interested in this debate on Raymond and the many notions of him getting calls, etc. And since he is around a couple more years we better all get used to it. So I looked quickly at the stats and it shows that Raymond and Zach Freeman have similar stats relative to shots taken and trips to the line. It also shows, surprisingly that while Zach and Kent played the most minutes this season of anyone neither of them took the most shots. Dan Walton did. Now I may be missing something because Raymond took the most 3pt shots and if you count FGA and 3pt Att he definately took the most shots comined (are these added or do they represent a subset of the other in the boxscore??). I suppose an arguement could be made that Zach and Raymond carried similar loads as their teams go to guy this season. Also that Raymond took so many foul shots shouldn't be surprising since he went to the basket so much. but I wonder what percentage of foul calls on Raymond were "phantom"? did the refs miss 50% of the time? 20%? More? Less? I have no clue. I think its inevitable that a player of Raymond's talent that drives to the hoop so much is going to get his share of calls as well as his share that are missed. Certainly vs elmhurst last saturday night he was thrown to the ground a couple times w no call.

In the end it seems his style of play is going to be conducive to lots of free throws and with that comes a percentage of missed and accurate calls. I think that's probably something we are all going to have to get used to for a couple more years.

I am interested in other's thoughts on this.

[Gregory Sager]

Trey attempts are considered field-goal attempts, Usee, and as such are a subset of the latter in the box score.

[tuvwxyz]

Certainly vs elmhurst last saturday night he was thrown to the ground a couple times w no call.

and that friends is the whole purpose of the post.

[usee]

Trey attempts are considered field-goal attempts, Usee, and as such are a subset of the latter in the box score.

Thanks. that clarifys things a bit.

[usee]

Certainly vs elmhurst last saturday night he was thrown to the ground a couple times w no call.

and that friends is the whole purpose of the post.

you don't know me very well if that's what you think.