MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Titan Q]

Since it is rumor season here...

I've heard some rumblings about Illinois State 6-7/220 post player Mike Vandello (Bettendorf H.S., IA) transfering to Augustana.  Vandello averaged 9 minutes per game this year - 1.5 ppg, 1.7 rpg.  As a freshman he started 9 games.

He'd be quite a player in the CCIW.

http://goredbirds.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/vandello_mike00.html

I've also heard rumors that Brett Wessels is considering transferring from Iowa, where he's spent two years as a walk-on for the Hawkeyes, to Augie to follow in his brother Drew's footsteps. Wessels saw garbage time in six games for the Hawkeyes as a freshman in 2005-06, and in fifteen more this just-concluded season. He's apparently a bigger and better version of his older brother. Ironically, his high school coach at Bettendorf (IA) High was Kevin Skillett, who did this transfer in reverse when he was a college student; Skillett absolutely tore up this league and made All-CCIW first team as a freshman for Augustana in 1990-91, and then transferred to Iowa where he first sat on the end of the Hawkeyes bench as a walk-on and then worked his way up to a scholarship and became a useful reserve for the Hawkeyes over the course of this three seasons in Iowa City.

Sounds as though Grey Giovanine may be trying to restock his rotation via D1 transfers rather than through his JV team.

Mike Vandello and Brett Wessels were H.S. teammates.  Three years ago the word was that both were heading to Augustana.  Illinois State came in and offered Vandello, who had no other Division I offers, and Wessels decided to walk-on at Iowa.  It wouldn't be a surprise at all if these two end up at Augie.

[und63]

Since it is rumor season here...

I've heard some rumblings about Illinois State 6-7/220 post player Mike Vandello (Bettendorf H.S., IA) transfering to Augustana.  Vandello averaged 9 minutes per game this year - 1.5 ppg, 1.7 rpg.  As a freshman he started 9 games.

He'd be quite a player in the CCIW.

http://goredbirds.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/vandello_mike00.html

I've also heard rumors that Brett Wessels is considering transferring from Iowa, where he's spent two years as a walk-on for the Hawkeyes, to Augie to follow in his brother Drew's footsteps. Wessels saw garbage time in six games for the Hawkeyes as a freshman in 2005-06, and in fifteen more this just-concluded season. He's apparently a bigger and better version of his older brother. Ironically, his high school coach at Bettendorf (IA) High was Kevin Skillett, who did this transfer in reverse when he was a college student; Skillett absolutely tore up this league and made All-CCIW first team as a freshman for Augustana in 1990-91, and then transferred to Iowa where he first sat on the end of the Hawkeyes bench as a walk-on and then worked his way up to a scholarship and became a useful reserve for the Hawkeyes over the course of this three seasons in Iowa City.

Sounds as though Grey Giovanine may be trying to restock his rotation via D1 transfers rather than through his JV team.

Mike Vandello and Brett Wessels were H.S. teammates.  Three years ago the word was that both were heading to Augustana.  Illinois State came in and offered Vandello, who had no other Division I offers, and Wessels decided to walk-on at Iowa.  It wouldn't be a surprise at all if these two end up at Augie.

Perhaps their high school coach will also become an assistant to GG, just prior to the departure of the Swatella's and Dad.

[north central]

anyone with any current or updated information on the millikin opening. (thank god littrells gone).  I dont think that Sherer rumor has any credibility. I heard former assistants Jarrett Brown and Marc Smith applied for the position and were amoung the 6 finalists

[petemcb]

Since it is rumor season here...

I've heard some rumblings about Illinois State 6-7/220 post player Mike Vandello (Bettendorf H.S., IA) transfering to Augustana.  Vandello averaged 9 minutes per game this year - 1.5 ppg, 1.7 rpg.  As a freshman he started 9 games.

He'd be quite a player in the CCIW.

http://goredbirds.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/vandello_mike00.html

I've also heard rumors that Brett Wessels is considering transferring from Iowa, where he's spent two years as a walk-on for the Hawkeyes, to Augie to follow in his brother Drew's footsteps. Wessels saw garbage time in six games for the Hawkeyes as a freshman in 2005-06, and in fifteen more this just-concluded season. He's apparently a bigger and better version of his older brother. Ironically, his high school coach at Bettendorf (IA) High was Kevin Skillett, who did this transfer in reverse when he was a college student; Skillett absolutely tore up this league and made All-CCIW first team as a freshman for Augustana in 1990-91, and then transferred to Iowa where he first sat on the end of the Hawkeyes bench as a walk-on and then worked his way up to a scholarship and became a useful reserve for the Hawkeyes over the course of this three seasons in Iowa City.

Sounds as though Grey Giovanine may be trying to restock his rotation via D1 transfers rather than through his JV team.

Speaking of Augie's JV team, did anyone ever comment on where or whether Thomas and/or Kolze from a year ago's team played anywhere this recently-concluded season?

[knarocky22]

I know Thomas transferred to Iowa just to go to school.  I have no idea what happened to Kolze.

[AndOne]

anyone with any current or updated information on the millikin opening. (thank god littrells gone).  I dont think that Sherer rumor has any credibility. I heard former assistants Jarrett Brown and Marc Smith applied for the position and were amoung the 6 finalists

I was very surprised when I was asked about Scherer by the 2 sets of parents and told them I had not heard anything along those lines. As I said, the only thing that made me think it was possible at all is that I know Coach Scherer's family is from fairly close to the Decatur area (closer than Elmhurst at least), and that with his mom recently passing away, maybe he wanted to be closer to his dad and/or other family members.

I only mentioned it because I figured someone from EC or MU would have more definate info. Besides Smith and Brown, do you know who any of the other 4 finalists for the position are?

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

That could just be rumors from other schools competing for the recruits as well.

[Late nite]

As usual, I'm in the minority---But, it's still about winning---Every player that you listed (why list 5's?---I thought he made the team as a forward 3/4) helped their team to a winning and successful season, except Freeman---If a player is a 1ST TEAM All-American, he should be able to put a team on his shoulders and carry them to AT LEAST a .500 season, regardless of S.O.S.---As I said before, IMO he is good enough to be an AA, just not 1st team---In losing situations, individual stats are always more available to the best players on that team

I agree---But my guess is that Freeman could have played tuba in the band this year and D3 would have found a spot on the team for him on the 1st team---All-American?---Yes---First team?---No---He wasn't even the best player in the conference---As the best player (by far) on a 7th place team, gaudy statistics are to be expected---I realize that I am in the vast minority, but IMO the selection was more reflective of the body of work over 4 years than what he accomplished this past season---A standout player who had a great career, but also a beneficiary of great teammates the first 3 years to deflect some of the attention and a poor team to give him multiple opportunities his last season---Right place, right time---Not a player that can take over a game, like Raymond

Late Nite, what 4/5 player on D3hoops.com All-American teams 2 through Honorable Mention should have made the 1st Team over Zach Freeman, and why?   

(After the statistics of each player, I have noted the strength of schedule each played against per the final Massey Ratings.)

http://www.mratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&sub=III&mid=1


Zach Freeman (Sr, IWU) - 21.6 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 196-319 (.614) FG, 142-179 (.793) FT -- S.O.S. #6


2nd Team
Brandon Adair (Sr, Virginia Wesleyan) - 17.7 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 246-356 (.691) FG, 74-145 (.510) FT - S.O.S. #30

Tom Port (Sr, Wooster) - 16.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 206-386 (.534) FG, 58-75 (.773) FT - S.O.S. #11

Isaac Rosefeldt (Sr, St. Thomas) - 17.9 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 183-333 (.550 FG), 81-131 (.618) FT - S.O.S. #96

3rd Team
Larry Welton (Jr, Aurora) - 20.0 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 192-430 (.447) FG, 115-146 (.788) FT - S.O.S. #199

Dane Borchers (Sr, Wittenberg) - 17.0 ppg, 10.1 rpg, 161-285 (.565) FG, 134-165 (.812) - S.O.S. #70

Jason Boone (Sr, NYU) - 14.1 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 138-219 (.630) FG, 119-185 (.643) FT - S.O.S. #88

4th Team
Joe Werner (Sr, UW-LaCrosse) - 16.7 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 178-317 (.562) FG, 96-125 (.768) FT - S.O.S. #1

Tyler Ousley (Sr, Otterbein) - 19.7 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 166-291 (.570) FG, 194-262 (.740) FT - S.O.S. #25

Honorable Mention

Chad McGowan (Jr, York-Pa) - 21.7 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 207-411 (.504) FG, 143-215 (665) FT - S.O.S. #148

Troy Ruths (Jr, Wash U) - 19.1 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 224-398 (.563) FG, 124-188 (.660) FT - S.O.S. #2

The results are in..................................................

And the winner is----------------------------------------> Zach Freeman!

And this is NOT from an IWU fan.

I also go back to my previous post from yesterday:

I saw Zach Freeman play 3 games this season. At times he was POSITIONED more in a forward position at the start of an offensive play, and at other times he initially took more of a center/low post POSITION. The truly amazing thing and what helps make Mr. Freeman the great player that he is is that he excelled no matter which POSITION he played from. On top of this, he showed the ability to start out a little higher and move down low, or start on the block and move up toward the top to receive the ball and begin a move to the basket. His VERSITILITY is one of the reasons he was such an outstanding player worthy of 1st team All-American recognition.

[Titan Q]

If a player is a 1ST TEAM All-American, he should be able to put a team on his shoulders and carry them to AT LEAST a .500 season

40-42.

That's the record of Michael Jordan's (37 ppg, 5 rpg, 5 apg) team in 1986-87.  In a team game, even having the best player in the world doesn't guarantee a winning season. 

[79jaybird]

Responding to the topic of Coach Scherrer-

Guys, Coach Scherrer is not going anywhere.  He is happy at Elmhurst and is well set coaching the Jays, having his family reside and grow up in Elmhurst, and helping the Athletics programs succeed. 
Coach Baines?  Well I don't have an answer here.  I think it is every Assistant Coach's dream to get a shot at an HC role.  I wouldn't doubt Coach Baines applying for the Millikin job, AND if he does apply, I hope he gets that position.  I think Coach Baines is a great leader and someday will be a great HC.

Somebody mentioned RA Faganel Hall.  As an EC Cabinet Member we frequently have board meetings discussing the Elmhurst "Master Plan", which includes new Academic Bldgs, parking lots, etc.. most notably brand new additions for Athletics.  There will be a new Athletic building with a more elegant basketball and volleyball court,  along with moving the current football field 2 blocks north (closer to the RR tracks).  This is in the Master Plan and is at least 7-10 years away.  Of course, it all depends on donors and $$$.
Rest assured, I can almost guarantee that Coach Scherrer is not leaving Elmhurst.

[Late nite]

The results are in!

Zach Freeman:
21.6 ppg., 9.1 rpg., .691 fg%, .294 3pt fg%, .793 ft%,  35.2 min/gm
S.O.S. #6

Not worthy----(prorated at 35 min/gm)
22.4 ppg. 8.8 rpg., .479 fg%, .327 3pt fg%, .688 ft%,   25.1 min/gm
Played for a winning team, same conference---S.O.S.  #7


You're 1st team All American---Brian Schlemm!!!---Can't seem to find his name anywhere---Not even Honorable Mention---I guess he didn't play at the right place---If stats are the main criteria and the spot is awarded on results from THIS YEAR, he should be right there, but I'm sure he doesn't fit the profile---Not fair, but true

[/b]

I agree---But my guess is that Freeman could have played tuba in the band this year and D3 would have found a spot on the team for him on the 1st team---All-American?---Yes---First team?---No---He wasn't even the best player in the conference---As the best player (by far) on a 7th place team, gaudy statistics are to be expected---I realize that I am in the vast minority, but IMO the selection was more reflective of the body of work over 4 years than what he accomplished this past season---A standout player who had a great career, but also a beneficiary of great teammates the first 3 years to deflect some of the attention and a poor team to give him multiple opportunities his last season---Right place, right time---Not a player that can take over a game, like Raymond

Late Nite, what 4/5 player on D3hoops.com All-American teams 2 through Honorable Mention should have made the 1st Team over Zach Freeman, and why?   

(After the statistics of each player, I have noted the strength of schedule each played against per the final Massey Ratings.)

http://www.mratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&sub=III&mid=1


Zach Freeman (Sr, IWU) - 21.6 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 196-319 (.614) FG, 142-179 (.793) FT -- S.O.S. #6


2nd Team
Brandon Adair (Sr, Virginia Wesleyan) - 17.7 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 246-356 (.691) FG, 74-145 (.510) FT - S.O.S. #30

Tom Port (Sr, Wooster) - 16.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 206-386 (.534) FG, 58-75 (.773) FT - S.O.S. #11

Isaac Rosefeldt (Sr, St. Thomas) - 17.9 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 183-333 (.550 FG), 81-131 (.618) FT - S.O.S. #96

3rd Team
Larry Welton (Jr, Aurora) - 20.0 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 192-430 (.447) FG, 115-146 (.788) FT - S.O.S. #199

Dane Borchers (Sr, Wittenberg) - 17.0 ppg, 10.1 rpg, 161-285 (.565) FG, 134-165 (.812) - S.O.S. #70

Jason Boone (Sr, NYU) - 14.1 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 138-219 (.630) FG, 119-185 (.643) FT - S.O.S. #88

4th Team
Joe Werner (Sr, UW-LaCrosse) - 16.7 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 178-317 (.562) FG, 96-125 (.768) FT - S.O.S. #1

Tyler Ousley (Sr, Otterbein) - 19.7 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 166-291 (.570) FG, 194-262 (.740) FT - S.O.S. #25

Honorable Mention

Chad McGowan (Jr, York-Pa) - 21.7 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 207-411 (.504) FG, 143-215 (665) FT - S.O.S. #148

Troy Ruths (Jr, Wash U) - 19.1 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 224-398 (.563) FG, 124-188 (.660) FT - S.O.S. #2

The results are in..................................................

And the winner is----------------------------------------> Zach Freeman!

And this is NOT from an IWU fan.

I also go back to my previous post from yesterday:

I saw Zach Freeman play 3 games this season. At times he was POSITIONED more in a forward position at the start of an offensive play, and at other times he initially took more of a center/low post POSITION. The truly amazing thing and what helps make Mr. Freeman the great player that he is is that he excelled no matter which POSITION he played from. On top of this, he showed the ability to start out a little higher and move down low, or start on the block and move up toward the top to receive the ball and begin a move to the basket. His VERSITILITY is one of the reasons he was such an outstanding player worthy of 1st team All-American recognition.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I'm just glad we post on a website where every poster knows how to prorate stats.  You're not gonna get that in d1!!

[Late nite]

I wasn't the one to originally throw out the stats, but you have to compare apples to apples if you're going to use them---As stated before, when you are playing heavy minutes on a team that is in alot of close games, there will always be more opportunities to build up stats---That's why I choose to award a player with good stats AND contributing to a winning team

I'm just glad we post on a website where every poster knows how to prorate stats.  You're not gonna get that in d1!!

[Late nite]

Q---Don't know the answer and can't find the answer, but with stats like that, I assume he was 1st team All-Pro---There's a huge difference between 22 ppg and 37 ppg---Hard for me to relate to that comparison

If a player is a 1ST TEAM All-American, he should be able to put a team on his shoulders and carry them to AT LEAST a .500 season

40-42.

That's the record of Michael Jordan's (37 ppg, 5 rpg, 5 apg) team in 1986-87.  In a team game, even having the best player in the world doesn't guarantee a winning season. 

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Jordan was on the first team that year, over Isaiah Thomas (and to a lesser extent, Lafayette Lever).