MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Viking Blue]

Just an FYI.  The Sun-Times ran a similar piece last week, I believe on Friday as well.

[augiefan]

The Sun Times sure beats the Trib on this kind of coverage. One is lucky to find all of the CCIW scores in the Trib, which really misses the boat on small school coverage. Unless a local team is in the FF, the Trib ignores even the local schools.

There are plenty of DIII alums and parents in the Chicago area, and my guess is we are the kind of college educated readers they should be targeting. This year more than ever with the local DI schools other than ISU pretty much stinking up the courts, it would seem an ideal time to have a little small college coverage.

[markerickson]

You've got me chuckling, AO.  Stevens delivered a "blast"?  Wow, quite the embellishment.  Trying to trip someone above the knee while you're prone?  That is probably physically impossible though I did see the foot off the floor - above knee level at one point.  However, that was after the unsuccessful trip near ankle level and the NCC player was already running up court. The leg went higher during the follow thru, after contact.

Does Coach Raridon ride refs regularly?  Some of his groans - rather -outbursts were completely unneccessary.  For example, he hooted and hollered about a shot clock violation.  He should realize that the ball has to hit the rim, not the underside of the backboard.  And it wasn't even close.  

[iwumichigander]

Regarding Carthage's changes and Bosko's adjustments...does it really surprise anyone?  The man certainly has one heck of a track record!

Characterisitics seperate Bosko from other basketball coaches - not just in the CCIW but in college basketball in general.  One, Bosko adapts his offense and defensive schemes to the personnel he has to work with rather than trying to force schemes onto a team.  Two, Bosko will make game plan adjustments - set changes or player changes - on the fly as needed rather than letting his ego get in the way staying with a game plan which may not be working.  Last, in a close game, Bosko manages the last 2-4 minutes better than most.

[cardinalfanrochelle]

Well I may have to join the old scrub ladies at the back fence to throw in my 2 cents too, It's funny when Nick Williams got hit in the face twice player names were put on the post on who they thought did it, but when Mitch Radidon got smacked twice against Wheaton no names were posted and life went on. Jay Alexander is a court smart player and guess what, he throws hip checks better than half of the Chicago Blackhawks. Look at the stats if you take credit for the no calls Rogers would have been 11-17 and Drennan would have been 8-13, taking a shot in the chest part of the game,pushing back in front of an offical and no call priceless. There are times the officals actually show they are human and do swear at some of the players after hearing them chirping in their ear all game, to err is human to forgive is divine. Punk stuff is where a player could get hurt ,like a player on the floor reaching out or raising a leg to trip someone should be called with a "T" or intentional foul called who wants to see a year or career ending injury. What hurt North Central was lack of players on bench I'm not saying the players there wouldn't have helped, for one I don't know the JV player rules about playing 2 games in a night but the 3 players missing Williams,Johnson and Twyman hurt the Cardinals. I really like watching Williams play and you can see Rogers & Drennan play differently without him in there he does so many things well that he doesn't need to score big to play big. Greg ,I think you are wrong about Johnson if he had more mins on the floor, you would see a different player and then David, he adds alot to the team all around ,on offense and on defense. About the flops everyone does it just a part of the game, get over it. Greg about the steak dinner comment( Wheaton game) explain that one to my wife.......can't wait to hear about this post, ladies it's getting cold and it's time to come in from the fence in the backyard

[AndOne]

You've got me chuckling, AO.  Stevens delivered a "blast"?  Wow, quite the embellishment.  Trying to trip someone above the knee while you're prone?  That is probably physically impossible though I did see the foot off the floor - above knee level at one point.  However, that was after the unsuccessful trip near ankle level and the NCC player was already running up court. The leg went higher during the follow thru, after contact.

Does Coach Raridon ride refs regularly?  Some of his groans - rather -outbursts were completely unneccessary.  For example, he hooted and hollered about a shot clock violation.  He should realize that the ball has to hit the rim, not the underside of the backboard.  And it wasn't even close. 

Well. I'm glad you're so easily entertained, Mark. Always glad to provide a few chuckles.

Two hands to the chest at close range. What would you call it? If you don't like "blast" pick another word. Whatever it was, the NCC player's actions notwithstanding, it was a foul.

As far as Gordon trying to trip the NCC player "above the knee," I meant that his leg wound up at or above knee level which made it obvious to the point that the ref should have seen it. Furthermore, you, yourself just confirmed Gordon's leg/foot reached at least that level, and Mr. Sager has already agreed that it was a foul on Gordon that was missed. Naturally, when he first tried to trip the NCC player, his foot was down around the ankle. The continued upward motion only served to make it even more obvious to those who missed the initial attempt.

Coach Raridon yells at the refs on his own "schedule." Whether that can be defined as "regularly" I don't know. On what schedule does Coach Brenegan yell at the refs? Is it "regularly'? As far as whether the ball hit the rim on the play you mentioned, I'll just say it was only obvious that it did so to those persons who were in the gym and had their eyes open at the time. 

BTW---Your post made me chuckle too. So we're even. Everythings good! Take care.

[iwumichigander]

And from me too, Greg.
Best we put it to bed.

Good Grief Charlie Brown and Good Night Gracie! Games stats show NCC & NPU dead even in rebounds @ 27 each; and, despite the posting about the officiating - even on fouls called - NCC 17 NPU 16; the NPU bench won this game (as AndOne noted)against what seems to be a short handed, attributed to injuries,  NCC squad
BENCH POINTS                1   2 - Tot
North Central College...    0   0 -   0
North Park University...    9   7 -  16

[jumpers406]

IWU coach Ron Rose gets the weekly IDIOT OF THE WEEK AWARD. Some how, some way, he let the best player on his team leave.  Robert Beauchamp (6'2 G/F) was not getting the playing time he deserved and when he asked Ron about it, Ron let him walk...  when you have such a superstar like that, its just unfathomable to think that he didn't even get a chance.  Hes got 3pt+ range, can handle the ball, and maybe the best defender I've ever played agaisnt.  I've seen Beauchamp absolutly destroy Lewis Jackson (heading to Purdue next year) and take over basketball games at his will.  It just amazes me that at the D3 level where you have coaches stock pile guards that Ron Rose couldn't see through the average players.  Even Travis Rosenkranz could not hold his own agaisnt Beauchamp.  And I know how much IWU loves that kid.  It would all be different if Trost was still there.  On a side note, Rob also plays football for the school and had a very successful year for IWU football.  Let me know what you think....

[Viking Blue]

IWU coach Ron Rose gets the weekly IDIOT OF THE WEEK AWARD. Some how, some way, he let the best player on his team leave.  Robert Beauchamp (6'2 G/F) was not getting the playing time he deserved and when he asked Ron about it, Ron let him walk...  when you have such a superstar like that, its just unfathomable to think that he didn't even get a chance.  Hes got 3pt+ range, can handle the ball, and maybe the best defender I've ever played agaisnt.  I've seen Beauchamp absolutly destroy Lewis Jackson (heading to Purdue next year) and take over basketball games at his will.  It just amazes me that at the D3 level where you have coaches stock pile guards that Ron Rose couldn't see through the average players.  Even Travis Rosenkranz could not hold his own agaisnt Beauchamp.  And I know how much IWU loves that kid.  It would all be different if Trost was still there.  On a side note, Rob also plays football for the school and had a very successful year for IWU football.  Let me know what you think....

Who?

[jumpers406]

Robert Beauchamp....graduated from Cerro Gordo and went to Parkland for 2 years....now is at IWU

[Titan Q]

IWU coach Ron Rose gets the weekly IDIOT OF THE WEEK AWARD. Some how, some way, he let the best player on his team leave.  Robert Beauchamp (6'2 G/F) was not getting the playing time he deserved and when he asked Ron about it, Ron let him walk...  when you have such a superstar like that, its just unfathomable to think that he didn't even get a chance.  Hes got 3pt+ range, can handle the ball, and maybe the best defender I've ever played agaisnt.  I've seen Beauchamp absolutly destroy Lewis Jackson (heading to Purdue next year) and take over basketball games at his will.  It just amazes me that at the D3 level where you have coaches stock pile guards that Ron Rose couldn't see through the average players.  Even Travis Rosenkranz could not hold his own agaisnt Beauchamp.  And I know how much IWU loves that kid.  It would all be different if Trost was still there.  On a side note, Rob also plays football for the school and had a very successful year for IWU football.  Let me know what you think....

Robert Beauchamp was IWU's best player???  Oh my goodness.  Robert is a very good football player at IWU and a great kid.  He was nowhere near Travis Rosenkranz and Sean Dwyer (other point-guards) as a basketball player though. 

Robert and Ron Rose parted on extremely good terms.  This is silly.

[jumpers406]

They parted on fine terms...but what I'm saying is that no one at that school knows how good he really is.  For whatever reason he wasn't given a chance.  He would destory Travis Rosenkranz in a game (i dont know sean) and I know its not all one on one, which is one of the things that makes TR so good, BUT my point is that Beauchamp is an unreal scorer and defender.  He was cheated out of his college basketball career by a basketball program that has managed to slip into mediocrity over the past few years...

[Titan Q]

They parted on fine terms...but what I'm saying is that no one at that school knows how good he really is.  For whatever reason he wasn't given a chance.  He would destory Travis Rosenkranz in a game (i dont know sean) and I know its not all one on one, which is one of the things that makes TR so good, BUT my point is that Beauchamp is an unreal scorer and defender.  He was cheated out of his college basketball career by a basketball program that has managed to slip into mediocrity over the past few years...

Seriously dude.

[Viking Blue]

They parted on fine terms...but what I'm saying is that no one at that school knows how good he really is.  For whatever reason he wasn't given a chance.  He would destory Travis Rosenkranz in a game (i dont know sean) and I know its not all one on one, which is one of the things that makes TR so good, BUT my point is that Beauchamp is an unreal scorer and defender.  He was cheated out of his college basketball career by a basketball program that has managed to slip into mediocrity over the past few years...

Seriously dude.

Dude.

[Mr. Ypsi]

We finally get a Millikin poster (check his profile), and all jumpers can contribute is what an idiot the Titan coach is about a player decision he knows nothing about.  Sad.

"a basketball program that has slipped into mediocrity over the last few years."  Yeah, like #3 in the nation less than 22 months ago, and winner over Millikin 62-47 (in Decatur) less than 48 hours ago.